To quote mikeirby at THR: They had a ATHLETIC SCANDAL pure and simple, we have an academic scandal.
I find some of the comments scary. Are these people allowed to vote and have children? Yikes!
Wow, just wow.Originally posted by Mark Gastineau:
To quote mikeirby at THR: They had a ATHLETIC SCANDAL pure and simple, we have an academic scandal.
Very, very naive on his part. I'd like to chalk it up to wishful thinking, but its really just delusional.Originally posted by Laettner:
Wow, just wow.Originally posted by Mark Gastineau:
To quote mikeirby at THR: They had a ATHLETIC SCANDAL pure and simple, we have an academic scandal.
An academic scandal in which dozens of basketball & football players were steered into. How do we know this, former UNC hoops players have gone on record.
I'm not well-versed in NCAA bylaws, but I highly doubt they're is a strict statute of limitations block to certain types of claims.
Agreed. I'll believe it when I see it. UNC's basketball program is one of the NCAA's sacred cows (as is Duke). I just don't think there's anyway the NCAA could seriously punish UNC without seriously damaging the program for a 3-4 year period, and wiping out its last decade+ of history. I just can't imagine the NCAA taking as big a shot as they would have to if they chose to intervene. While it's certainly possible, my guess is that the NCAA will figure out a way to avoid involvement -- particularly in view of those suits being filed by former UNC athletes.
Although there are definitely statutes of limitations in the NCAA by-laws, there are exceptions. I am not familiar with the agreement referenced, but my guess is that they were in a gray zone on certain categories of offenses and Syracuse decided to -- rather than fight the SOL -- get the NCAA to limit the length of the investigation. Certainly possible that Syracuse was like we need to protect the 02-03 title at all costs, and we're willing to agree to punishments for later years to avoid getting into a fight with the NCAA over those past seasons.
I think Bilas's hatred of the NCAA is getting in the way of his better judgment here. Syracuse is probably going to be fine next year, but it's going to have a long term effect. Duke can get away with 8-10 scholarship players b/c everyone we recruit is a high school all-american and, as we've seen with Grayson, can contribute if need be + we typically have at least 2-3 first round NBA talents in our starting lineup at any point. Syracuse recruits well, but not nearly like us. By-in-large, they depend on guys maturing and developing on the bench for a year or two before they're typically asked to play a major role. It's hard to do that when you have only 10 allowable scholarships. B/C, if you an injury / transfer / academic issue etc. -- suddenly you're playing guys who aren't ready to compete at the highest level.
If the NCAA wants to not look like they're showing favoritism and wants to remain consistent then they should punish UNC for every season that they played ineligible players like they did with Syracuse, so if they go about punishing UNC in the same way then every year from 1993-2011 that there were ineligible players on the team. If they do then UNC is looking at losing up to 3 national championships and who knows how many wins from the schools records as well as wins from several coaches records and probably ALOT of scholarships.
