Tennessee AD Dave Hart's press conference will air live on #SECNow at 1 PM/ET.

[akaukswoosh]

SEC Network ‏@SECNetwork 6m6 minutes ago


Tennessee AD Dave Hart's press conference will air live on #SECNow at 1 PM/ET. Watch link: http://es.pn/1OxbdO2 pic.twitter.com/IDQ2YQwHzM

 

[Mr Schwump]

Deny, defend, deflect...the Triple Ds for Hart today.

UT students are scheduled to protest outside the PC today in support of rape victims. Maybe Jones will send some football players to beat them up too.

 

[docholiday51]

Deny, defend, deflect...the Triple Ds for Hart today.

UT students are scheduled to protest outside the PC today in support of rape victims. Maybe Jones will send some football players to beat them up too.

He'll have to post bail for them first or maybe that will be part of their work detail

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

UT coaches are idiots.

“Instead of us continuing to lay down and take it and take a beating, we felt like as a coaching unit we wanted our administration to know we have each their back, we have others’ backs and we have our student athletes’ backs,” Pensky said.

I'm sure that's the same thing the alleged victims are thinking. Not exactly a good line to use...

“The things being alleged haven’t changed our world,” Pensky said. “Are we talking to them a little bit more (about campus safety) with our kids? Certainly. Are our kids asking questions of us? Certainly. It hasn’t changed us. We don’t live in fear.”

I'm sue the alleged victims do...

Added Tennessee women’s basketball coach Holly Warlick: “If I had a daughter, I would not hesitate for one bit about having her come on campus. I’ve been here for 30-something years. We have to be doing something right or I would not have bought into that this is a great place.”

You don't know how you would feel because you DON'T have a daughter.

I guess the PR dept is too busy doing other things instead of coaching these coaches what not to say.

Maybe Hart can clarify these ignorant responses.

 

[WeepNoMore]

Will be surprised if anything comes of this. UT has developed the "coverup" and "payoff" into art forms!!!

 

[docholiday51]

That entire approach was wrong,when you get that many people together to say something the effort to say the same thing in different words leads to someone using a poor choice of words.

The fact that they(someone at UT) felt the need to do things in that way says more than the collection of coaches were able to say.

UT has problems here from a civil,criminal and PR standpoint and oh by the way they haven't even begun to address the actual events that put everyone in this position

 

[BigBlueCatNation]

They need to just shut down that pool of filth and start over again. They just can't win doing things the right way.

 

[gobigblue812_rivals29381]

This press conf is a joke.

 

[jauk11]

LOL

His nose should have just grown a foot, he just said that athletes were treated no different than anyone else at THUG U.

How about the EIGHT thugs that escaped ANY charges after not just assaulting TWO men in separate incidents in the SAME night, kicking them in the HEAD while DOWN.

I thought they had gotten away with that unbelievable miscarriage of justice, but that alone should show any judge or jury what a lie they are still living.

Of course, that only applies if they can get a change of venue and get the trial moved outside the city of Knoxville. But then moving the trial should be the most obvious thing in the world.

 

[akaukswoosh]

Matt Slovin ‏@MattSlovin 11m11 minutes ago


Hart wouldn't touch a question on whether Drae Bowles was assaulted other than to refer to Butch Jones' statement from last night

 

[CatOnRockyTop_rivals376981]

I have lived in Knoxville for 25 years and have saw the UT athletic dept sweep incident after incident under the rug. The first thing I thought when I saw these allegations was, why would I think this was any different than all the rest?

 

[Deeeefense]

What we learned from the Jerry Sandusky situation was that the football program wasn't just a big part of Penn State University it literally RAN Penn State university. Joe Paterno was the king pin, not the university president. The president and the administration bowed to the real power brokers. Accordingly all those speaking out from an official capacity defended the program vigorously in the beginning until he truth finally came out and they all lawyered up to save their own hides.

They are no where near that stage yet with the UT situation. Maybe there are explanations and facts that support their case. if so, I haven't heard them yet. I personally find no pleasure in adversity of this kind happening to a rival school, in fact I find it tragic for all involved including the thousands of fans who had nothing to do with it but will suffer if the hammer is lowered.

This doesn't look good for UT and circling the wagons doesn't help their image IMO.

 

[CatOnRockyTop_rivals376981]

With all due respect, the only ones that this is tragic for is the victims if the alleged assaults did occur.
I find it really hard to have pity for a bunch of fans who constantly call Cal a cheater without any facts to back it up.

 

[bigbluegrog]

They need to just shut down that pool of filth and start over again. They just can't win doing things the right way.

Does this remind you of any other school that is in close proximity to UK?? The one that claims to be "miles ahead".....

 

[docholiday51]

If there have been sexual assaults then the victims should be the primary concern,if anyone employed by the University of Tennessee covered up or failed to act on information they had about such assaults then they should be fired and the school held accountable for those actions.

The fact that these situations come to light months or years after the fact is nearly as bad as the incident,the victims have to learn to live with and in a system that doesn't seem to care.

 

[Jazzycat]

The chief concern needs to be the alleged victims of all the abuse that is currently under arbitration, including the women and the player that was "beaten up" for helping another victim. After the Penn State tragedy, it should be fairly clear to university admin that they better clean up any inappropriateness, including cover ups, retaliatory actions and/or illegal activity. College campuses need to be safe and free of this type of behavior and the level of intolerance for these behaviors need to be raised to the point of expulsion if a person is found to be guilty of any infraction. As long as illegal behavior is being supported by coaches and administrators, young men and women will continue to be damaged by their apathy and the need to protect athletic programs versus the protection of students.

If these charges turn out to be true, UT needs to have the hammer dropped on their Football program, for sure. Of course, we are still waiting for the repercussions on the academic fraud at UNC....

 

[Glenn's Take]

I say this not to defend UT at all but it is very telling of the current environment in this country about it. I would normally never watch anything ESPN does except for games but we were in Georgia the Friday before the UK-UGA game and my friends kid put Around the Horn on. They were talking about Greg Hardy and this is close to verbatim what Kate Fagan said.
"When I hear a woman make a claim of abuse I don't need any evidence because most of the time they are telling the truth."
Not a single person said anything about it.

 

[jauk11]

I say this not to defend UT at all but it is very telling of the current environment in this country about it. I would normally never watch anything ESPN does except for games but we were in Georgia the Friday before the UK-UGA game and my friends kid put Around the Horn on. They were talking about Greg Hardy and this is close to verbatim what Kate Fagan said.
"When I hear a woman make a claim of abuse I don't need any evidence because most of the time they are telling the truth."
Not a single person said anything about it.

The justice system need a lot of cleaning up both ways, both in lack of action and overzealous acts to lock up innocent men or women. PLEASE read "Adams vs Texas" to see just how bad it has gotten in some cases.

And it will probably continue to be bad until the lawyers no loger control not just the justice system, but also the legislative, executive, and judicial systems, run for MONEY,

I see little hope for any of it improving a great deal anytime soon, you did just read where the Bama football team CLEARED about $46,000,000 for the school in one year, didn't you.

That is AFTER their coaching staff was paid about &15,000,000 to cure cancer------oh, I meant attract the NINETEEN five stars scheduled to be on their roster next year.

In a fair world wouldn't UK be spotted about a 20 point lead to start the game with when we meet them next year? LOL

 

[GSM_Vol]

Deny, defend, deflect...the Triple Ds for Hart today.

UT students are scheduled to protest outside the PC today in support of rape victims. Maybe Jones will send some football players to beat them up too.

Yeah the protesters where out in full force, all 13 of them arrived in the same Subaru hatch back.

 

[GSM_Vol]

With all due respect, the only ones that this is tragic for is the victims if the alleged assaults did occur.
I find it really hard to have pity for a bunch of fans who constantly call Cal a cheater without any facts to back it up.

Then give me some facts that these alagations took place at Tennessee. Not one person has been convicted of rape.

 

[GSM_Vol]

If there have been sexual assaults then the victims should be the primary concern,if anyone employed by the University of Tennessee covered up or failed to act on information they had about such assaults then they should be fired and the school held accountable for those actions.

The fact that these situations come to light months or years after the fact is nearly as bad as the incident,the victims have to learn to live with and in a system that doesn't seem to care.

Dude do you not understand? UT does not investigate criminal cases, KPD and the state does that.

 

[docholiday51]

Dude do you not understand? UT does not investigate criminal cases, KPD and the state does that.

Dude, I spent 37 years in law enforcement,I understand who does what probably a bit better than you. Nowhere in my post did I say that UT investigates criminal cases,however if someone at UT has information about any assaults and that person does not provide that information to law enforcement then they and the school have a problem.

 

[jauk11]

Dude do you not understand? UT does not investigate criminal cases, KPD and the state does that.

KPD?

Isn't that the one that investigated the eight thugs that kicked the two men in the head while down at the night club where they had free admission? Is that the same group where the OIC "forgot" to take the surveillance tapes the first thing he did, the ones that were no good the next morning? The PD that came up with NO charges EXCEPT for one (third time loser as far as the football program was concerned) that supposedly resisted arrest and hit one of their own?

Don't they have a pretty long history of "no charges" or minor charges when athletes are involved?

Yeah, that explains a lot, and it is hard for someone to be convicted of rape------BEFORE it comes to trial, LOL

 

[jauk11]

Yeah the protesters where out in full force, all 13 of them arrived in the same Subaru hatch back.

They aren't being paid by the University while taking time from work to do this, they are doing it on their own time because they believe in it

And didn't the "Squealer" that "ratted" on your star QB for destroying someones property come to a bad end, didn't she have her car vandalized also?

 

[tnlongdrvr]

I guess the ut posters on this board forgot about former vol Bernard king getting caught robbing dorms at ut. I forgot what the outcome of his case was. do you know powellvolz or some other ut poster remember and care to enlighten us?

 

[Mr Schwump]

Yeah the protesters where out in full force, all 13 of them arrived in the same Subaru hatch back.

Others feared for their lives. I get it, you support sexual assault. Your athletic dept would have more cred if you didn't give football sideline passes to rapists.

 

[Tskware]

Then give me some facts that these alagations took place at Tennessee. Not one person has been convicted of rape.

I have read most of the 64 page complaint, there is no way all of those facts are just made up BS, and if you believe so, you must have your head up Smokey's ***.

 

[GSM_Vol]

I have read most of the 64 page complaint, there is no way all of those facts are just made up BS, and if you believe so, you must have your head up Smokey's ***.

The problem with the AJ and Mike Williams accusations is the lies that has been told by the main witness in this Drae Bowles. The story he swore to in the civil suit isn't what he told the GJ. He told the GJ that when he picked the girl up, she did not tell him she was raped, they did not call the police and they did not Go to the hospital. Also the 2 girls in this ordeal destroyed their phones the next day and the girls lawyers are fighting to keep them out of court. Drae claimed he was assaulted and Butch said all this bad stuff to him. Well as it turns out the very next day, Butch called a team meeting and told everyone to leave Drae alone because he did the right thing, Butch also assigned one of the S&C coaches to stay with Bowles 24/7 until he left for UTC. After Bowles claimed he was assaulted, he spent the next 3 months with the football team, didn't miss a practice or a game and went to the bowl game with the team. After the bowl game Bowles had his pic taken with several teammates, including the ones he said assaulted him and he was holding up #45 with his hands to show support for AJ Johnson. I'm sorry but anyone in there right mind who is in fear for their live doesn't do all this.

 

[GSM_Vol]

I have read most of the 64 page complaint, there is no way all of those facts are just made up BS, and if you believe so, you must have your head up Smokey's ***.

Those are not facts, they are allegations.

 

[GSM_Vol]

I have read most of the 64 page complaint, there is no way all of those facts are just made up BS, and if you believe so, you must have your head up Smokey's ***.

Also we have learned recently that AJ showed text messages to players and coaches that the girl sent to him before the party that she wanted to hook up with him.

 

[Tskware]

Those are not facts, they are allegations.

Yes sir coach Paterno

 

[Mr Schwump]

The problem with the AJ and Mike Williams accusations is the lies that has been told by the main witness in this Drae Bowles. The story he swore to in the civil suit isn't what he told the GJ. He told the GJ that when he picked the girl up, she did not tell him she was raped, they did not call the police and they did not Go to the hospital. Also the 2 girls in this ordeal destroyed their phones the next day and the girls lawyers are fighting to keep them out of court. Drae claimed he was assaulted and Butch said all this bad stuff to him. Well as it turns out the very next day, Butch called a team meeting and told everyone to leave Drae alone because he did the right thing, Butch also assigned one of the S&C coaches to stay with Bowles 24/7 until he left for UTC. After Bowles claimed he was assaulted, he spent the next 3 months with the football team, didn't miss a practice or a game and went to the bowl game with the team. After the bowl game Bowles had his pic taken with several teammates, including the ones he said assaulted him and he was holding up #45 with his hands to show support for AJ Johnson. I'm sorry but anyone in there right mind who is in fear for their live doesn't do all this.

Lol. So ***** calls a team meeting to tell his team to lay off assaulting Bowles then assigns a body guard, a S/C guy no less to Bowles "24/7.". Wonder if "Protect team mates from assaulting one another" was in his job description when hired?

 

[GSM_Vol]

Lol. So ***** calls a team meeting to tell his team to lay off assaulting Bowles then assigns a body guard, a S/C guy no less to Bowles "24/7.". Wonder if "Protect team mates from assaulting one another" was in his job description when hired?

It looks terrible, I'm not going to lie but sometimes people take matters into their own hands when they feel like one of their brothers have been falsely accused of something. It's also coming out that players have been telling Bowles that she has been cheating on him for a long time and he wouldn't believe. The feeling is Drae thought she was his GF when all along she wasn't. Still doesn't excuse the fact that a assault might of happened and if any of this is true about the rap or assault, all of them need to spend a long time in jail.

 

[tnlongdrvr]

The problem with the AJ and Mike Williams accusations is the lies that has been told by the main witness in this Drae Bowles. The story he swore to in the civil suit isn't what he told the GJ. He told the GJ that when he picked the girl up, she did not tell him she was raped, they did not call the police and they did not Go to the hospital. Also the 2 girls in this ordeal destroyed their phones the next day and the girls lawyers are fighting to keep them out of court. Drae claimed he was assaulted and Butch said all this bad stuff to him. Well as it turns out the very next day, Butch called a team meeting and told everyone to leave Drae alone because he did the right thing, Butch also assigned one of the S&C coaches to stay with Bowles 24/7 until he left for UTC. After Bowles claimed he was assaulted, he spent the next 3 months with the football team, didn't miss a practice or a game and went to the bowl game with the team. After the bowl game Bowles had his pic taken with several teammates, including the ones he said assaulted him and he was holding up #45 with his hands to show support for AJ Johnson. I'm sorry but anyone in there right mind who is in fear for their live doesn't do all this.

Those are not facts, they are allegations.

Also we have learned recently that AJ showed text messages to players and coaches that the girl sent to him before the party that she wanted to hook up with him.

can I ask you where you are getting your information? the damaging information that you are referring to is in the printed media. you are stating facts I have seen no where in the printed media. people printing anti-ut messages are stating facts that they have seen in print. where is your info coming from? you seem to have inside info that supports your position.

 

[GSM_Vol]

can I ask you where you are getting your information? the damaging information that you are referring to is in the printed media. you are stating facts I have seen no where in the printed media. people printing anti-ut messages are stating facts that they have seen in print. where is your info coming from? you seem to have inside info that supports your position.

The part about Drae changing his story and the girls ditching there cell phones is well documented. It's what has held up the trial and brought what Drae has said into question. The part about AJ showing people his cell phone and the girl texting him is message board rumors from posters that clam they know players that saw the messages. So that's very likely BS.

 

[GSM_Vol]

can I ask you where you are getting your information? the damaging information that you are referring to is in the printed media. you are stating facts I have seen no where in the printed media. people printing anti-ut messages are stating facts that they have seen in print. where is your info coming from? you seem to have inside info that supports your position.

I'll find the links to the story's about this for you.