Terry Smith's Pinstripe News Confetence today
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Then you’ll have players jogging and playing matador. Players will do the least possible to get paid... so what’s the point of this approach?
In the end, there is zero point to any bowl game outside the playoffs. If there’s still some $ to be made, some kids want to play, some fans want to watch… Great. Just don’t expect players to sacrifice injury to be a part of it.
I don't see many of the current OL being future NFL starters. Seems like it was the weakest unit on this years team. Maybe they'll kill it in the combine/pro day but I would be surprised if we're talking about any of them in 3 years
The fans were there before the players got paid. And if demand drove everything, players wouldn’t be able to transfer every year or opt out of bowl games.
I’m quite sure fans wouldn’t stop watching if NIL was made illegal. It wasn’t fans that went to court to get NIL money.
What the fans are ones paying it. The courts already ruled and, honestly, the players hands were forced to take it to court because the programs refused to compensate them fairly when you consider the revenue they bring in.
NIL will never be illegal again--so fans will either pay or they won't. So far it's clear they're more than happy to pay.
It’s the schools’ names that bring in the revenue from devoted fans (mostly comprised of alums).
If these same players played for the Centre County (or State College) Blah Blahs, the revenue generated would be pennies on the dollar. Just look at the myriad of non-NFL leagues since the AFL.
They were compensated fairly now they’re over compensated, but I’m not going to get into a never ending loop of an argument with you again.
Agreed--but you still need the players. if the quality dropped, IMO, so would the ratings and revenue.
That's the main reason the other pro football leagues fail--plus, you have to be willing to take a loss for a while as you build that brand
Exactly…if Penn State switched rosters with Slippery Rock next year, the Penn State team would still have 100,000 people at the games and Slippery Rock would still have 1,500.
That's fine--we completely disagree--they weren't compensated fairly and the courts also disagree with you.
That is the generational difference. I grew up to always do everything I could for my team....today the "t" and "a:" are removed leaving only the "me". And yes I do believe a great performance in a bowl could make a difference when comparing players.
I don't disagree with "it's not about me" or should be "about the team"--I just don't think any of the players care if guys opt out of a bowl game. I think fans will eventually get there as well.
If Cousins is at RG and Donkoh at RT, we'll see a lot of runs going that way.
The Playoff system AND NIL have created this situation together. The bowl games have been mostly meaningless since forever other than most of the NY6. Now there's virtually no point at all other than getting a good look at some of the younger players in action. There's potential value there for the team for next season and beyond.
Not sure I want players who really don't want to play to participate. I'm no Tomlin fan but he does say one thing I completely agree with, "we need volunteers, not hostages." People can get hurt when other players don't do their jobs to the best of their ability.
Not sure I want players who really don't want to play to participate. I'm no Tomlin fan but he does say one thing I completely agree with, "we need volunteers, not hostages." People can get hurt when other players don't do their jobs to the best of their ability.
What a joke. The fans are to blame? Which fans? I didn’t ask for this nor did I create this mess, as you put it.
I will predict that the line will be mostly fine with: J. Williams, Shanahan, Rulli, Cousins, Donkoh......there is some flexibility with Shanahan and Cousins capable of playing C. This line may give more of a push than the line that started for the majority of the season. Rucci, Dawkins, and Shelton to me were OK players that were sold to us as elite.....and they just were not elite.
I do think that Rucci worked and played really hard....but physically none of the three consistently pushed anybody off of the ball.
I do think that Rucci worked and played really hard....but physically none of the three consistently pushed anybody off of the ball.
Agree the Bowl games can't co-exist in today's CFB, NIL, portal environment.
24 teams, start with 12 minor bowls and figure it out from there, or something
close to it.
Change portal and recruiting dates, or a rule players can't portal in the same conference.
It's a mess.
You may be correct....it just bothers me that all the "dimes" i drop to support this team it feels like some players
are quitting on me. I drank the kool-aide CJF was peddling that without NIL the team couldn't survive....which is probably correct....so yes I guess I take it all to personal when I am giving all I can and some players aren't.
Do you think J. Williams and maybe Boyer will rotate @ LT and perhaps Aliciene and or Goodman will get some reps @ RT to allow Donkoh a few breaks?
I respect that--it's your money, you're definitely entitled to feel how you do.
If a player opted out of a playoff game I'd share your opinion--I just don't care about the bowl games--I hope Kaytron doesn't see the field or at most plays a series as I don't want him risking injury (plus I want to see the kids play)
And to expand in this were they taking snaps during the 15 practice lead up? If so why take snaps away from guys who are going to suit up and play?