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Thanks Jerry Springer, Hoppy, Gordon Gee, Rob Asslop, and the rest of the woke bog....

What is the easier ask? That a 69 year old man not drink while driving, get to a .21 BAL and be so drunk he cannot pull a car to the side of an empty street. Or that administration deal with the above situation knowing that a majority of people will not feel as lenient toward him as you do.

Anyway you slice it this whole thing could've been avoided by Huggins simply functioning at the bare minimum we as a society expect everyone else in society to function on.
 

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What is the easier ask? That a 69 year old man not drink while driving, get to a .21 BAL and be so drunk he cannot pull a car to the side of an empty street. Or that administration deal with the above situation knowing that a majority of people will not feel as lenient toward him as you do.

Anyway you slice it this whole thing could've been avoided by Huggins simply functioning at the bare minimum we as a society expect everyone else in society to function on.
Huggs messed up, there is no doubt about it, but this whole situation was handled about as bad as it could be from a damage control standpoint. First of all, the radio incident wasnt an incident. Whoever in this world that can listen to that clip in its context and actually be offended forreal are a major minority of people with emotional issues. This ultra offended woke crap should not have a place in this society. Free speech is a core American value. So really the DUI should not have been some kind of "second offense" that everyone keeps bringing up. Secondly, there is no written rule, or anything at all in this world that says something cant be worked out for him to keep his job, even after getting a DUI. He would be very very far from the first person in this world who kept his job after getting a DUI. But even if keeping him just isnt right at all, and I am not ruling that out, the way it was done was about as bad from a damage control standpoint that you could ask for. They could have forced in resignation way better than they did, and they should have, and because they didnt, they added insult to injury and WVU will suffer for it.
 

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Huggs messed up, there is no doubt about it, but this whole situation was handled about as bad as it could be from a damage control standpoint. First of all, the radio incident wasnt an incident. Whoever in this world that can listen to that clip in its context and actually be offended forreal are a major minority of people with emotional issues. This ultra offended woke crap should not have a place in this society. Free speech is a core American value. So really the DUI should not have been some kind of "second offense" that everyone keeps bringing up. Secondly, there is no written rule, or anything at all in this world that says something cant be worked out for him to keep his job, even after getting a DUI. He would be very very far from the first person in this world who kept his job after getting a DUI. But even if keeping him just isnt right at all, and I am not ruling that out, the way it was done was about as bad from a damage control standpoint that you could ask for. They could have forced in resignation way better than they did, and they should have, and because they didnt, they added insult to injury and WVU will suffer for it.
there is a rule..he was a state employee driving a fleet vehicle
 

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if that's the case the trooper who was fired for a DUI should get her job back...she was in her personal car
 
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Huggs messed up, there is no doubt about it, but this whole situation was handled about as bad as it could be from a damage control standpoint. First of all, the radio incident wasnt an incident. Whoever in this world that can listen to that clip in its context and actually be offended forreal are a major minority of people with emotional issues. This ultra offended woke crap should not have a place in this society. Free speech is a core American value. So really the DUI should not have been some kind of "second offense" that everyone keeps bringing up. Secondly, there is no written rule, or anything at all in this world that says something cant be worked out for him to keep his job, even after getting a DUI. He would be very very far from the first person in this world who kept his job after getting a DUI. But even if keeping him just isnt right at all, and I am not ruling that out, the way it was done was about as bad from a damage control standpoint that you could ask for. They could have forced in resignation way better than they did, and they should have, and because they didnt, they added insult to injury and WVU will suffer for it.

My point is that it is impossible for the admin to screw up handling Bob's **** up to a degree that makes it even close to Bob's own culpability. Bob's "mess up" was egregiously bad and something even the most basic functioning human being should be expected to avoid. The impending disaster for the basketball program is 100% on Huggins and there is no reasonable way to say the admin's response, no matter how mishandled anyone thinks, comes close to sharing blame. It is so small in comparison to Huggins inability to act as a functional adult that shouldn't even be brought up when assessing who bears the brunt of the responsibility.
 

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My point is that it is impossible for the admin to screw up handling Bob's **** up to a degree that makes it even close to Bob's own culpability. Bob's "mess up" was egregiously bad and something even the most basic functioning human being should be expected to avoid. The impending disaster for the basketball program is 100% on Huggins and there is no reasonable way to say the admin's response, no matter how mishandled anyone thinks, comes close to sharing blame. It is so small in comparison to Huggins inability to act as a functional adult that shouldn't even be brought up when assessing who bears the brunt of the responsibility.
I changed my signature a good while back because it was pretty obvious what was coming. It's going to get worse. Those two words, suspended indefinitely, could have bought time and saved a lot of grief. If they cared about Huggins, the players, fans, and Legacy at all, they would have been looking for a way to get him to retire, not resign. There would have been conversations. This whole thing happened in like 6 hours. It was stupid and it's a sign of very bad leadership. Good leaders can't lead with emotion like a lot of fans do. You have to weigh every option. Everyone can have their opinion but we're going to pay for the stupidity. We already are
 

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I changed my signature a good while back because it was pretty obvious what was coming. It's going to get worse. Those two words, suspended indefinitely, could have bought time and saved a lot of grief. If they cared about Huggins, the players, fans, and Legacy at all, they would have been looking for a way to get him to retire, not resign. There would have been conversations. This whole thing happened in like 6 hours. It was stupid and it's a sign of very bad leadership. Good leaders can't lead with emotion like a lot of fans do. You have to weigh every option. Everyone can have their opinion but we're going to pay for the stupidity. We already are
Ignorance is bliss.

Huggins arrested for DUI 1 Month After Using Anti-Gay Slur.

David Reaves was announced as Oregon's co-offensive coordinator and tight ends coach on Jan. 17, 2017. Five days later, he was arrested for drunk driving at 2:12 a.m. The Ducks announced later that day it had begun the process of his termination.

Former Purdue interim head coach Gerad Parker was set to join East Carolina's staff as wide receivers coach until he was charged with operating a vehicle while impaired in West Lafayette, Ind. Parker had resigned from his post as Cincinnati's running backs coach in order to join the Pirates' staff, but by Wednesday ECU confirmed Parker's offer had been rescinded.

Nebraska wide receivers coach Keith Williams was sentenced to 30 days in jail, three years of probation and a $1,000 fine for an August DUI arrest. It was his third such arrest.

Florida State strength coach Vic Viloria was arrested after hitting a traffic sign and falling asleep at the wheel after drinking whiskey with Showtime employees, who were shooting a behind-the-scenes show on the Seminoles. His blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit.

Bob Wager resigned after his DUI arrest.

According to Lincoln, Nebraska, police, Wager was stopped at 1:24 a.m. Wednesday and cited for driving with a blood-alcohol content of 0.15 or higher, refusal of a preliminary breath test, refusal of a chemical test and having an open container. He had not been charged as of Friday.

Wager joined new coach Matt Rhule's staff this year after 17 years as head coach at Arlington (Texas) Martin High School.

Both Williams and Viloria had established their employment prior to their respective arrests. Both remain employed. Reaves and Parker were fresh to their new employers, and both of those employers quickly moved on from each coach.

While the charges may have been the same, clearly, the responses are not.

If Huggins had admitted he was wrong and had a problem I believe he's still the HC at WVU but only suspended for OOC games.

Anyone who supports his DUI and drinking problems has serious issues of their own.
 

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Ignorance is bliss.

Huggins arrested for DUI 1 Month After Using Anti-Gay Slur.

David Reaves was announced as Oregon's co-offensive coordinator and tight ends coach on Jan. 17, 2017. Five days later, he was arrested for drunk driving at 2:12 a.m. The Ducks announced later that day it had begun the process of his termination.

Former Purdue interim head coach Gerad Parker was set to join East Carolina's staff as wide receivers coach until he was charged with operating a vehicle while impaired in West Lafayette, Ind. Parker had resigned from his post as Cincinnati's running backs coach in order to join the Pirates' staff, but by Wednesday ECU confirmed Parker's offer had been rescinded.

Nebraska wide receivers coach Keith Williams was sentenced to 30 days in jail, three years of probation and a $1,000 fine for an August DUI arrest. It was his third such arrest.

Florida State strength coach Vic Viloria was arrested after hitting a traffic sign and falling asleep at the wheel after drinking whiskey with Showtime employees, who were shooting a behind-the-scenes show on the Seminoles. His blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit.

Bob Wager resigned after his DUI arrest.

According to Lincoln, Nebraska, police, Wager was stopped at 1:24 a.m. Wednesday and cited for driving with a blood-alcohol content of 0.15 or higher, refusal of a preliminary breath test, refusal of a chemical test and having an open container. He had not been charged as of Friday.

Wager joined new coach Matt Rhule's staff this year after 17 years as head coach at Arlington (Texas) Martin High School.

Both Williams and Viloria had established their employment prior to their respective arrests. Both remain employed. Reaves and Parker were fresh to their new employers, and both of those employers quickly moved on from each coach.

While the charges may have been the same, clearly, the responses are not.

If Huggins had admitted he was wrong and had a problem I believe he's still the HC at WVU but only suspended for OOC games.

Anyone who supports his DUI and drinking problems has serious issues of their own.
Oh I didn't realize how offended and harmed you were over his anti gay comment. And by the way Huggins has admitted he was wrong and he has a problem. He has done it more than once lol. What are you even talking about saying he hasn't? You can stay on your high horse all you want I don't care. We're entitled to our opinion. Mine is that it was handled poorly lol. The circumstances at WVU are unique to WVU.
 

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Oh I didn't realize how offended and harmed you were over his anti gay comment. And by the way Huggins has admitted he was wrong and he has a problem. He has done it more than once lol. What are you even talking about saying he hasn't? You can stay on your high horse all you want I don't care. We're entitled to our opinion. Mine is that it was handled poorly lol. The circumstances at WVU are unique to WVU.
Cant see how they can keep him after the radio thing.
Really? Didn't realize how offended you were over his anti gay comment.


 

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Really? Didn't realize how offended you were over his anti gay comment.


That was before I heard it. Once I heard the comment I was clearly against making a big deal out of it because it wasn't an anti-gay slur like everyone was freaking out about. In contrast, the way the comment went was completely blown out of proportion. When I realized that it actually pissed me off that he was in trouble for it. And for the record I never said I was totally in favor of keeping him. I just said that you don't have to fire him, and also I think it was handled very poorly. The way it was handled almost ensures maximum damage to the program. It did not have to go down that way. This idea that he's a bad person and all the sudden he must not be there is absolutely ridiculous. I have been one of the only fans on here who are trying to show compassion towards Bob Huggins.
 
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That was before I heard it. Once I heard the comment I was clearly against making a big deal out of it because it wasn't an anti-gay slur like everyone was freaking out about. In contrast, the way the comment went was completely blown out of proportion. When I realized that it actually pissed me off that he was in trouble for it. And for the record I never said I was totally in favor of keeping him. I just said that you don't have to fire him, and also I think it was handled very poorly. The way it was handled almost ensures maximum damage to the program. It did not have to go down that way. This idea that he's a bad person and all the sudden he must not be there is absolutely ridiculous
Yeah keep telling yourself that. Maybe you will eventually believe it to be true.
 

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Yeah keep telling yourself that. Maybe you will eventually believe it to be true.
Keep reading my posts and you'll see. If he made a real anti-gay comment I could understand. But he didn't. The whole thing was stupid and I think a lot of WVU fans realize that once they heard the radio clip. Also I never said I would keep him. I'm just not willing to throw him under the bus for making a mistake. He has done a lot for the program, and I would prefer to approach the situation from the place of compassion towards him and not anger. I probably would have let him go but not the way they did it. Not too mention it was obvious the way they handled it was going to cause more damage. Just watch. Those two words suspended indefinitely will make more sense as we go through the season and probably next few seasons... if there were a real chance at keeping the whole roster intact, buying some time and playing damage control would be the only way. They didn't even make an attempt and imo, that's bad leadership. These kids came to play for Huggs. Get something worked out. Whatever...
 
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Keep reading my posts and you'll see. If he made a real anti-gay comment I could understand. But he didn't. The whole thing was stupid and I think a lot of WVU fans realize that once they heard the radio clip. Also I never said I would keep him. I'm just not willing to throw him under the bus for making a mistake. He has done a lot for the program, and I would prefer to approach the situation from the place of compassion towards him and not anger. I probably would have let him go but not the way they did it. Not too mention it was obvious the way they handled it was going to cause more damage. Just watch. Those two words suspended indefinitely will make more sense as we go through the season and probably next few seasons... if there were a real chance at keeping the whole roster intact, buying some time and playing damage control would be the only way. They didn't even make an attempt and imo, that's bad leadership. These kids came to play for Huggs. Get something worked out. Whatever...
DUI is not a mistake. Not learning to shut his yapper and realize he's being set-up is a mistake. They handled it just fine. He was told not to mess up again or be fired and he did and was. There is no need for a face to face he should have known he was done. Doing a lot for the program doesn't mean you're an angel. He threw himself under the Bus by driving drunk with a state owned vehicle. Did you want them to go to the jail house and fire him in person? He knew he was done when he was caught drinking and driving, now he's back pedaling and not taking the blame for his own stupidity.

They didn't owe him an explanation. It was written in his contract. Two words that made complete sense and correctly stated by Trump "You're Fired". These kids are not kids and they came here for the money. This will not be worked out until seasons end.
 

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DUI is not a mistake. Not learning to shut his yapper and realize he's being set-up is a mistake. They handled it just fine. He was told not to mess up again or be fired and he did and was. There is no need for a face to face he should have known he was done. Doing a lot for the program doesn't mean you're an angel. He threw himself under the Bus by driving drunk with a state owned vehicle. Did you want them to go to the jail house and fire him in person? He knew he was done when he was caught drinking and driving, now he's back pedaling and not taking the blame for his own stupidity.

They didn't owe him an explanation. It was written in his contract. Two words that made complete sense and correctly stated by Trump "You're Fired". These kids are not kids and they came here for the money. This will not be worked out until seasons end.
You're entitled to your opinion. I just have a different take. But you're right it won't be worked out until season's end and then someone's probably going to have to rebuild totally.
 

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.21 BAC is not a "couple of drinks"..if he was arrested in WV it would have been aggravated DUI (over 1.5)..he would have been required to have that ignition device that takes a breath sample before starting
 

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You're entitled to your opinion. I just have a different take. But you're right it won't be worked out until season's end and then someone's probably going to have to rebuild totally.
Bob fuccked what he said he loved...and that's not his wife. His love affair with booze destroyed the program and hurt the university. No excuses. The man is a hall of fame jackass.
 

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.21 BAC is not a "couple of drinks"..if he was arrested in WV it would have been aggravated DUI (over 1.5)..he would have been required to have that ignition device that takes a breath sample before starting
For all any of us know he has been caught here and it was swept under the rug.
 

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wonder how many games he would have won if 100% alcohol free..in the words of Norm MacDonald..since alcoholism is a disease..it has to be the best one
 

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Huggs messed up, there is no doubt about it, but this whole situation was handled about as bad as it could be from a damage control standpoint. First of all, the radio incident wasnt an incident. Whoever in this world that can listen to that clip in its context and actually be offended forreal are a major minority of people with emotional issues. This ultra offended woke crap should not have a place in this society. Free speech is a core American value. So really the DUI should not have been some kind of "second offense" that everyone keeps bringing up. Secondly, there is no written rule, or anything at all in this world that says something cant be worked out for him to keep his job, even after getting a DUI. He would be very very far from the first person in this world who kept his job after getting a DUI. But even if keeping him just isnt right at all, and I am not ruling that out, the way it was done was about as bad from a damage control standpoint that you could ask for. They could have forced in resignation way better than they did, and they should have, and because they didnt, they added insult to injury and WVU will suffer for it.
Figures you would support drunk driving "It was a mistake"....he could have killed someone, including himself...but a **** like you has no moral compass.
 

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Figures you would support drunk driving "It was a mistake"....he could have killed someone, including himself...but a **** like you has no moral compass.
You and root are totally clueless about this stuff. I dont have desire to deal with any more ignorance and bias on this topic. Peace out ***...
 
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Just got back from vacation only to find out the school down the road from me that has $10 courtside seats with an arena that doubles as an indoor track and hasn’t made an NCAA appearance since the mid 00s just kicked our team in the nuts. Hope all of the virtue signalers are happy. We can now feel high and mighty as we win 10 games this year, and that mean old Bob Huggins can’t get you guys anymore.