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You may not like hearing it. But we are still waiting to see Pope land a big fish outside of the state of KY. Wilson, Ament, Dent, Wilkerson, eaglestaff, among others are guys that Pope went HARD after and made a top priority. Some are HS recruits and some are portal kids. But the point is that Pope has not been able to close on his top priorities. Lowe is a nice enough PG but he was far from our first choice for example. He continues to recruit blue chip freshmen heavily and rightfully so, but we really need to start closing the deal.

Which of our guards are you referring to as being better that WIlkerson? I still like OO and Aberdean has been really good but Wilkerson is averaging 21 per game and shooting 40% from 3 thus far. There is a reason pope wanted him so badly. He is our missing piece.

I am not a pope hater but you still seem triggered. It's ok to hold the coach at KY to a high standard. If we are gonna spend 20 mil on a roster then there's no reason to be missing on your first and second choice like we have.

Gotta hold him to the standard. We’ve got too much legacy to protect and cannot allow anyone to hold it up. I’ve always been a protect the program guy over all. I was that way with Calipari and I’m that way today.

Every case is different, and the upside to Pope is so huge, it’s smart to give him a little more time than I would another coach coming in. Captain former champ, player, Pitino guy, he’s family and wouldn’t leave if it clicks. And if it clicks we’ve got the modern goat of Kentucky basketball as a former champ. It’s a story line that you can’t buy. It would add so much to what Kentucky means as a program.

So I’m going to give him longer. Calipari and Pitino both decided against being modern goats here in favor of other pursuits. I wanted badly for Calipari to straighten up. He really was the guy to carry this into the new era. Still makes me sick thinking of all those NBA guys, the Calipari brand, UK, it was a perfect situation. ugh.

But for UK the best thing to do is be a little more patient. Pope is still in a bit of an adjustment period. He’s changing his style to fit SEC basketball and he’s tinkering. We just can’t move on him too fast. If it ends up not working, one thing is certain for sure, Barnhart must go and cannot have anymore say in the basketball department. He’s got 1 real job and he’s not been any good at it especially if Pope doesn’t work. Retaining tubby at the end, against the Calipari hire, Gillispie, then a failed hire at the end of Calipari moved out. No way you should ever survive that if it happens. Not at a blue blood it would be horrible. Not to mention 1 title at UK after he was given the era directly after Pitino.

Pope also would be the protector of UK basketball moving forward for decades and decades. We need those guys in charge. Many of the older ones are dying and a lot of the newer alumni are NBA oriented. We need this to work for the programs future.
 
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You may not like hearing it. But we are still waiting to see Pope land a big fish outside of the state of KY. Wilson, Ament, Dent, Wilkerson, eaglestaff, among others are guys that Pope went HARD after and made a top priority. Some are HS recruits and some are portal kids. But the point is that Pope has not been able to close on his top priorities. Lowe is a nice enough PG but he was far from our first choice for example. He continues to recruit blue chip freshmen heavily and rightfully so, but we really need to start closing the deal.

Which of our guards are you referring to as being better that WIlkerson? I still like OO and Aberdean has been really good but Wilkerson is averaging 21 per game and shooting 40% from 3 thus far. There is a reason pope wanted him so badly. He is our missing piece.

I am not a pope hater but you still seem triggered. It's ok to hold the coach at KY to a high standard. If we are gonna spend 20 mil on a roster then there's no reason to be missing on your first and second choice like we have.
Eaglestaff?!?! Lmao you are a stat sheet watcher and don’t actually watch ball. Of course Wilkerson is averaging more on IU than many of our players because he is their crown jewel of the offseason. All 4 of our lead guards are better players than him. What are you going to say when Pope lands Christian Collins in the next could have week? Get your next line ready.
 
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Eaglestaff?!?! Lmao you are a stat sheet watcher and don’t actually watch ball. Of course Wilkerson is averaging more on IU than many of our players because he is their crown jewel of the offseason. All 4 of our lead guards are better players than him. What are you going to say when Pope lands Christian Collins in the next could have week? Get your next line ready.
Dude I ain't never looked at a stat sheet in my life. I don't even know where the eagle kid went, I just know he didn't come here. Is he the kid that went to Michigan? That's who I'm thinking about. All 4 of our lead guards are better than LW? A senior LW? No, they aren't and that's ok. I expect they will be one day. I'm really not even ragging hard on Pope or anything. I have an opinion about some missed opportunities, and I have a slight criticism in regard to recruiting. If what I said triggers you this hard, then son you ain't gonna make it here. Get your ear condoms ready.

What am I gonna say if we land the collins kid? I'm gonna say hell yeah and go cats. No one wants to see us land a couple blue chip kids more than me. Why would I complain about it?
 
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Dude I ain't never looked at a stat sheet in my life. I don't even know where the eagle kid went, I just know he didn't come here. Is he the kid that went to Michigan? That's who I'm thinking about. All 4 of our lead guards are better than LW? A senior LW? No, they aren't and that's ok. I expect they will be one day. I'm really not even ragging hard on Pope or anything. I have an opinion about some missed opportunities, and I have a slight criticism in regard to recruiting. If what I said triggers you this hard, then son you ain't gonna make it here. Get your ear condoms ready.

What am I gonna say if we land the collins kid? I'm gonna say hell yeah and go cats. No one wants to see us land a couple blue chip kids more than me. Why would I complain about it?
LW is very overrated in your head. Maybe that’s your problem. All of our guards are better than him but you just bring up ppg because it fits your narrative but leave out the fact that he is in the less talented team so of course his numbers will be higher. We aren’t going to get every player we recruit and posters saying this miss was the missing guy is so easy and old.
 

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LW is very overrated in your head. Maybe that’s your problem. All of our guards are better than him but you just bring up ppg because it fits your narrative but leave out the fact that he is in the less talented team so of course his numbers will be higher. We aren’t going to get every player we recruit and posters saying this miss was the missing guy is so easy and old.
I'm not so sure he's not better than Lowe.
 
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LW is very overrated in your head. Maybe that’s your problem. All of our guards are better than him but you just bring up ppg because it fits your narrative but leave out the fact that he is in the less talented team so of course his numbers will be higher. We aren’t going to get every player we recruit and posters saying this miss was the missing guy is so easy and old.
Senior LW is better than freshman jasper 100 percent. He’s probably better than Lowe too. Have you even watched him play? Or are you just gonna shill for our players no questions asked?

btw I have no problems. Don’t worry.

you’re right, we aren’t going to get all of our top targets. But we can’t miss them all.
 

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I'm not so sure he's not better than Lowe.
At this stage he does look better than Lowe. That doesn’t mean it will always be the case. I always react to exactly what’s happening in front of me.

I’ll never understand why people downplay the players we miss on. Pope went hard at the kid and it didn’t work out. Does that mean that he isn’t that good? Do fans think that pope is just out here wasting his time on kids that aren’t any good? He prioritized LW for a reason
 
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Senior LW is better than freshman jasper 100 percent. He’s probably better than Lowe too. Have you even watched him play? Or are you just gonna shill for our players no questions asked?

btw I have no problems. Don’t worry.

you’re right, we aren’t going to get all of our top targets. But we can’t miss them all.
Who said anything about Jasper? Lowe, OO, Chandler, and DA are all better than him. But feel free to be wrong.
 

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Who said anything about Jasper? Lowe, OO, Chandler, and DA are all better than him. But feel free to be wrong.
You did. Are you being serious right now? You literally said ALL our guards are better than him. Is jasper not a guard? Do I need to screenshot it for you?
 
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You did. Are you being serious right now? You literally said ALL our guards are better than him. Is jasper not a guard? Do I need to screenshot it for you?
Didn't realize when I said 4 guards, you couldn't use an ounce of common sense and figure out our top 4. Sometimes I forget the average IQ of most.
 

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Didn't realize when I said 4 guards, you couldn't use an ounce of common sense and figure out our top 4. Sometimes I forget the average IQ of most.
Whatever bud. Whatever you have to tell yourself to walk it back. You said what you said, own it. LW and jasper literally play the same position. Why wouldn’t we compare them? You stepped in it. Just say my bad and move on. It doesn’t have to be that embarrassing.

why are you so would up anyways? Is this your first time seeing someone say something you disagree with? Just piss off if you can’t handle it.
 
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Whatever bud. Whatever you have to tell yourself to walk it back. You said what you said, own it. LW and jasper literally play the same position. Why wouldn’t we compare them? You stepped in it. Just say my bad and move on. It doesn’t have to be that embarrassing.

why are you so would up anyways? Is this your first time seeing someone say something you disagree with? Just piss off if you can’t handle it.
Because Jasper currently isn’t even a major piece. That is your only straw if hope you can grasp onto is him being worse and I’m telling you I didn’t say that. Very odd. Maybe you should go root for IU.
 

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Bottom line is Pope took a team of cool dudes, with a ton of injuries, to the Sweet Sixteen in his first year here. Uh, Crapapari hadn’t achieved this, with loaded rosters, since 2019.

STFU.

And, I’ll wager a lot of money Pope takes this team to the Final Four this season, which, we haven’t been to in ten freaking years.
 
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Bottom line is Pope took a team of cool dudes, with a ton of injuries, to the Sweet Sixteen in his first year here. Uh, Crapapari hadn’t achieved this, with loaded rosters, since 2019.

STFU.

And, I’ll wager a lot of money Pope takes this team to the Final Four this season, which, we haven’t been to in ten freaking years.
People being so sure we stink is laughably dumb. We have crap to work on but it’s damn early November lol
 
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My concern is we paid jasper as much as these truly elite guys got. I know pope needed that recruiting win but it was obvious Tuesday that was way too much money for what we got.

6 minutes of disaster vs what we're seeing from some of the other freshmen around the country is disappointing.
I had hopes he would be our Philon or Pettiford. So far, doesn’t look like it. If he’s receptive to coaching he could make a lot of progress in a year.
 
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I had hopes he would be our Philon or Pettiford. So far, doesn’t look like it. If he’s receptive to coaching he could make a lot of progress in a year.
He probably ain’t going to be Pettiford. Pettiford was killer off the rip, but he can absolutely still be our Philon. Stay patient
 

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Wilkerson isn’t a freshmen. He played 3 years at Sam Houston st. Getting him would have had no impact on getting jasper. If I remember correctly we ended up with Lowe because we missed on dent and Wilkerson in the portal.
And Silas Demary. Lowe was option 4 at best. He plays like it too.
 
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Eaglestaff?!?! Lmao you are a stat sheet watcher and don’t actually watch ball. Of course Wilkerson is averaging more on IU than many of our players because he is their crown jewel of the offseason. All 4 of our lead guards are better players than him. What are you going to say when Pope lands Christian Collins in the next could have week? Get your next line ready.
Ummm.. I hate to tell you but Collins didn’t sign.
 

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Pope went with a veteran rosters and player retention. I don’t think he wants to do a revolving door, and Jasper was in our backyard. He’s trying to not fall into the freshman led issues, and some of those guys went there they could be the man and not compete with upperclassman.

Once they get going they’ll be a great group if healthy. Collin will likely be here until he graduates and he’s gonna be a beast. As much as I like and respect Oweh, his shot really limits him and due to injuries we haven’t really got to see him at full strength. Hopefully he can get healthy.

guys like Caleb Wilson and Ament wanted to be the primary guy and were promised it. Those guys know what we have in this roster it’s why they aren’t here. I don’t think we’ll be worrying about a missed freshman by the time they get picked up and going. But pope wants teams with upperclassman and so did we. That’s why he’s here and Calipari isn’t. We all know the drill. Evaluate it at seasons end before determining. Jasper will probably be one of those or close anyway. Not all freshman are clicking immediately. We’re basing too much off of a few games and October basketball.
Totally agree.
 

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Bottom line is Pope took a team of cool dudes, with a ton of injuries, to the Sweet Sixteen in his first year here. Uh, Crapapari hadn’t achieved this, with loaded rosters, since 2019.

STFU.

And, I’ll wager a lot of money Pope takes this team to the Final Four this season, which, we haven’t been to in ten freaking years.
Too bad no one took me up on this offer. You snooze, you lose.
Offer no longer on the table.

Not the first time I’ve been dead wrong about a prediction, and, it definitely won’t be the last.
 
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What is so funny (not funny)? We kept getting outbid but if you listen to some, spent $22 mill. How do you reconcile the two? We just made some bad choices. A lot of bad choices. $22 million worth.
 
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What is so funny (not funny)? We kept getting outbid but if you listen to some, spent $22 mill. How do you reconcile the two? We just made some bad choices. A lot of bad choices. $22 million worth.
Because most people, as you will find, have zero interest in trying to be consistent or truthful. It’s nothing but a constant reach for confirmation bias. It’s why having these conversations are usually pointless. I’m thinking about putting some things together to start some moderated debates for social media. Would love to see how some of these people fair when they have to actually back up any of their claims.