The Social Dilemma

[FltDoc]

"Explores the dangerous human impact of social networking, with tech experts sounding the alarm on their own creations."

You can find this PG-13 creation on Netflix which we signed up just to be able to view...

VERY important documentary/movie -- helps to explain how this country is evolving into its current hyper-partisan state...and much more....

I highly recommend it.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Yes. It’s rather obvious now.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

American Oligarchs

Not just fake news but the control of information & how its being weaponized.

YOU are bein TOLD what 2 think. Not just through Tell-A-Vision.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

People wanna cancel Netflix yet still have facebook accounts. Still have a twitter “account” & still use google.

AmazON deez nwuts!

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

@FltDoc

Dont mean to derail yer thread

Trying to +

R u familiar with the Fifth Column?

 

[FltDoc]

@FltDoc

Dont mean to derail yer thread

Trying to +

R u familiar with the Fifth Column?

am not... will look it up.

And you described it very well... weaponizing social media platforms.

There were several interesting folks talking about their contributions, but the blue-haired female talking about "algorithms" and how they are always programmed for a certain outcome... "USUALLY" financially based (but NOT always implied here). In other words, speech, ideas, position statements, facts, etc. can easily be programmed "in" or "out" if it doesn't meet whatever definitions were pre-programmed...

Scary, and powerful stuff!

 

[FltDoc]

@FltDoc


R u familiar with the Fifth Column?

Looked it up on Wikipedia (LOL, because from the Social Dilemma I learned that Wiki will give different definitions dependent upon zip code!!)

 

[GonzoCat90]

Very similar to another Netflix doc from a few years ago about Cambridge Analytica (I think it was called The Great Hack).

The idea that our devices are competing for our attention so that they can sell ads is nothing new or even particularly troubling. TV has been doing it for decades now. The problem is the way that data can be gathered and sold to people who aren't just trying to make us buy soda and shoes.

Maybe more than anything, it's the way all of the algorithms seem to reinforce our beliefs and habits and create echo chambers that seems to be the real danger. Every lunatic fringe can feel normalized if you're only shown people who agree with you.

And then the way those groups can be targeted by people or groups that know they're susceptible to certain false information or to being persuaded to a particular belief. That's the part that will have to be reckoned with in some way, soon.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

that will have to be reckoned with in some way, soon.

It will but I don't know how. The only thing I can envision is no censor at all. Otherwise you're just trading one set of programming for another, which is what we have now

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Not HOW. Learning why is most important.

Always learning always growing

Faults arent personal wrongings lol

Da Earf will reveal itself sooner than da evil “human” MASKS will reveal

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Yer phones are stronger than SLOT/SLUT machines.

Its not REALLY why it’s BECAUSE

Learning what u dont know is more important than what u DO know

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

PROJECT BLUE BEAM

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

I remember reading that George Washington read 10 different newspapers to feel like he got the actual truth. We are in a time where that problem is even larger, and conventional news is just a minor player. Social media has embedded itself so far into society I think we'll have to go mennonite to get it out.
Here's a video from Smarter Every Day about basic fact checking that should be required viewing to have a Facebook account.

 

[GonzoCat90]

It will but I don't know how. The only thing I can envision is no censor at all. Otherwise you're just trading one set of programming for another, which is what we have now

Our options are for companies to value truth, integrity, democracy, etc. more than they value the profits generated from the spread and attention of false information (the doc referenced in the OP said fake news spreads six times faster than actual news)

OR

for people to be smarter and not simply believe what reaffirms their terrible beliefs.

So we're doomed. But a half dozen people will get really rich and wreck the economy and environment and democracy in the meantime and the rest of us get to read what our high school friends think about those developments. A fair trade, really.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Our options are for companies to value truth, integrity, democracy, etc. more than they value the profits generated from the spread and attention of false information (the doc referenced in the OP said fake news spreads six times faster than actual news)

OR

for people to be smarter and not simply believe what reaffirms their terrible beliefs.

So we're doomed. But a half dozen people will get really rich and wreck the economy and environment and democracy in the meantime and the rest of us get to read what our high school friends think about those developments. A fair trade, really.

Totally agree. Kudos on one of the best posts on here in months.

 

[CB3UK]

Try using responsible search engines instead of the censorship overlords like Google for starters

 

[CB3UK]

I remember reading that George Washington read 10 different newspapers to feel like he got the actual truth. We are in a time where that problem is even larger, and conventional news is just a minor player. Social media has embedded itself so far into society I think we'll have to go mennonite to get it out.
Here's a video from Smarter Every Day about basic fact checking that should be required viewing to have a Facebook account.

While some valid points in there, the whole thing lost me when its sponsored by Google.

Google "Joe Biden racist past" for example.....then go to a search engine like DuckDuckGo.

Compare your results.

Then wake up.

 

[buckethead1978]

While some valid points in there, the whole thing lost me when its sponsored by Google.

Google "Joe Biden racist past" for example.....then go to a search engine like DuckDuckGo.

Compare your results.

Then wake up.

I typed in CB3UK and all the search engines said “terrible poster”

 

[BlueVelvetFog]

I typed in CB3UK and all the search engines said “terrible poster”

I love irony.

 

[Rebelfreedomeagle]

"Explores the dangerous human impact of social networking, with tech experts sounding the alarm on their own creations."

You can find this PG-13 creation on Netflix which we signed up just to be able to view...

VERY important documentary/movie -- helps to explain how this country is evolving into its current hyper-partisan state...and much more....

I highly recommend it.

I finished it last night. I have to say that I knew social media manipulates us, but I didn't realize to what extent. I liked the statement that any time you look at a screen with social media, there is literally a supercomputer on the other side dedicated to changing your thoughts and ideas without you knowing it. Hyper-partisan media is nothing more than a money making tool it uses.

 

[TurnipDaBeet]

Irony sharpens Irony