The universe has righted itself…
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Games are 4 quarter's and this one is going extra.
KU 45 Arkansas 38 in OT. Arkansas turn now.
And you thought it was already over. The only ones that will remember this game will be the fans (some of them) and the players.
And I was right, KU just decided to prolong it…….
But they still made a bowl game, which is something your boy Neal brown couldn’t get done…so kudos to KU
Uh no, tht’s a false narrative…. I was done with Brown after he struggled to beat JMU.
Were you done with Dana when he couldn't beat 1-6 last place Syracuse in his first season or the second year when he struggled to beat William & Mary then lost to 1-8 Kansas and 2-7 ISU in Big 12?
I think the William and Mary struggle along with Kansas loss were in Holgorsen's third year. I wasn't completely done with Holgorsen after that due to the good will from the Orange Bowl. The next year when WVU beat Baylor and almost nipped a top 10 TCU team at home while playing 4 top 11 CFP teams (Bama, TCU, Baylor, and KSU) that year, I could see reason to think maybe Holgorsen needed to just get over the hump. Especially since we beat one of those top teams and were within a score of the other 2 at the end. The fifth year of cobbling together something for a 7 win season while being dominated by all the good teams on the schedule save Oklahoma State was when I was done with Holgorsen.
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I was aggravated with Dana when he couldn't beat the 2 teams he needed to beat in a weak Big 12 in 2016. I was done with Dana when he lost to 6-6 Utah in Cotton Bowl in 2017. I was really ticked off when he had his best team since 2010 and couldn't finish better than 8-4. Two years in a row (2017, 2018) he lost his final 3 games of season.
I was done with Stewart the day he was hired because there was no interview process.
You hung on longer than I did then. When it became obvious that half or more of WVU's playmakers had to be transfers ready to play AND the absolute linch pin of Dana's entire team, the QB position, was nothing but transfers, I knew WVU was never really going to win a competitive conference.
I doubt he is even a wvu fan. Anyone who actively roots for failure is not a true fan.
The better question to ask these people is when wvu plays a game which team are they rooting for. I always root for wvu. I don't have any say who the coach is. If he wins enough games he will be back and I would rather have that then losing. I'm sure the people who make the high dollar donations have a direct line to Baker and Gee. I doubt that is the case with 99.9% of people who start threads and whine about it on a daily basis, If they do donate which is unlikely the little they send wouldn't be able to get them a meeting with the guy mopping Gee's floor.
I want Brown to be a good coach. Not for his sake, but for WVU's sake. However if he is not capable of success close to what Nehlen or RR did at WVU, I'd rather WVU move on as soon as possible. Again for WVU's sake. Buyouts not withstanding, I'd rather a coach flame out in 3-4 seasons than tread water at slightly above average for 7-10 seasons.
I haven't seen anything to date that make me think Brown will reach RR/ Nehlen level success. Until he is relived of his duty's I will continue to hope he succeeds. Those who root for the failure of a coach root against the success of the program.
But by continuing to support Brown, you’re rooting for losses and a mediocre program.
No I root for the team I have no say in who the coach is. If Brown fails the team fails and people like you root for failure
I've not seen a single thing in 4 full seasons to make me think Brown is a good coach. Same mistakes over and over. Clueless in-game decisions, no improvement on record year to year except maybe getting worse. Low energy, boring, stagnant are words that come to mind to describe the last 4 seasons. He has done nothing except set this program back since he's been here and he's especially bad to have on board with the new nil and transfer mess taking place. He's a whiner who has pointed fingers at everything but himself.
You still misunderstand but I think you’re doing that intentionally. No one wants the team to fail but to have success you need a coach who is successful and Brown isn’t successful at this level
I'd say there is a difference between "rooting" for a coach to lose and preferring that if the current coach is not capable of reaching the goals of the program that it become apparent as soon as possible so the program can move on. That is better for the program than just treading mediocre waters for the better part of a decade.
With Brown I fear WVU is in for pain no matter what. I'd love for him to suddenly flip the switch and become a better than average Big 12 coach. But if that highly unlikely scenario does not occur, I'd rather Brown have 1-2 losing seasons forcing a new hire than him improving to a couple of 7 win seasons followed by a few more 5-9 win seasons before ultimately being in Holgorsen situation 4-5 years from now. Kind of like preferring a gangrenous limb declare itself and be amputated rather than smolder in pain for weeks before ultimately getting the same amputation.
Hoping for the least amount of pain, even if it is by way of more intensity over a shorter period, when some pain is likely inevitable is not rooting foe the pain.
I've seen a lot of people on here who dont like Brown but still post on game day rooting for the team. It is possible to root for the team, players and program but still not like the coach or think he's a bad fit. I dont know where the cheer for WVU to fail thing comes from, but I've never seen a WVU fan root for them to lose in my life. I think Brown is a horrible coach and is setting us back every day he is here, but I dont blame the football team for one mans garbage. I still want them to win. the players deserve to experience what WVU football is really about. Hopefully one day we will get back to that.
I'm not doing anything intentionally that is yourself. When I watch wvu football or any wvu sport for that matter I wish for wins. Your just a lonely insignificant guy who wants attention on a message board. You're not a wvu fan.
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The bottom line is we don't control who the coach is. I always root for wins and anyone who roots for the failure of a coach roots against the success of the program.
Not necessarily true. Would you rather Neal have a 5 and 5 win run allowing WVU to look for a new coach in 2024 or a 7, 7, 9, 5, 7, 6, 5, and 6 run with WVU looking for a new coach in 2030? I know no one can predict the future and I know we do not really control who admin hires. But I would argue it is not rooting against WVU to prefer Neal make it obvious to admin he must be fired in the next 1-2 seasons rather than him doing just enough to give admin excuse to keep him long enough to limp to 8-10 seasons at WVU only to be in another post Holgorsen situation.
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I don't think he misunderstands anything. Everyone understands that you're praying for losses. Brown is still here because wvu doesn't have enough people that put their money where there mouth is. You would be exhibit A in that department.
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If your New Year’s resolution was to remain bitter and grumpy, then you’re doing a good job of keeping it….
It doesn't bother me if people root for Brown to fail faster so we can replace him asap. The dude is setting WVU football back 2 years every year he coaches. The chances he gets better are slim to none. He has already failed here. By rooting for WVU football to lose games, one could make the case that they are trying to get things fixed sooner for the sake of the future of WVU football. If that is someone's opinion I cant fault them for that. It just means they love WVU football and hate seeing the current state of the program.
In todays world the best thing to do is vote with your feet. I will be cheering for WVU to do well, but I wont go to any games at all until Brown is gone. Empty stadium seats is the best way for fans to force change when you have idiots like Gee and Asslop in charge.
In todays world the best thing to do is vote with your feet. I will be cheering for WVU to do well, but I wont go to any games at all until Brown is gone. Empty stadium seats is the best way for fans to force change when you have idiots like Gee and Asslop in charge.