The worst thing about our team

[18IsTheMan]

We’re not interfering. We don’t do any one thing particularly well. We don’t have a dynamic playmaker. If you’re a bad team it helps if there’s something interesting about the team. Maybe you have a horrific defense but you’ve have a really good QB or something. So far, we’re just kind of blah.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I knew Rattler was not a Heisman QB, but I thought he would at least make things interesting. So far, not. Granted, he’s not getting much help.

 

[USCME]

I knew Rattler was not a Heisman QB, but I thought he would at least make things interesting. So far, not. Granted, he’s not getting much help.

I still believe Rattler would be a good QB if he had a line that could pass block and not have someone in his face all the time. I don't understand why we can't get a decent oline?

 

[CockofEarle]

I still believe Rattler would be a good QB if he had a line that could pass block and not have someone in his face all the time. I don't understand why we can't get a decent oline?

Shades of the board when Phil took over under center……he wasn’t the answer to many on here.

Lou was even dragging d linemen over to o line for improvement.

 

[Lurker123]

I still believe Rattler would be a good QB if he had a line that could pass block and not have someone in his face all the time. I don't understand why we can't get a decent oline?

Honestly though, he had that at Oklahoma, and underwhelmed.

 

[BigJC]

Too many fans bought into the Rattler hype. There was a reason he was benched at OK and it wasn't because he was so good he made everyone else jealous.

 

[treyno2722]

I really thought we would be better on offense. With Vann coming back, Bell having a monster Bowl game, Austin Stoger transferring in, Marshawn Lloyd being 100% and Juju being Juju. I have to put all of it on the Offensive line. Saw very early in the Georgia State game that we aren't good up front.

 

[Tngamecock]

I still believe Rattler would be a good QB if he had a line that could pass block and not have someone in his face all the time. I don't understand why we can't get a decent oline?

He had some good pockets on Saturday. He was throwing everything off his back foot while backing up. Can’t have that. Sometimes you have to stand in there and take the hit to make the great play. We need that. Remember when Dylan Thompson came in on that last drive against Michigan and through the long touchdown to Bruce Ellington? He got absolutely nailed but he hung in there and threw the ball stepping forward. He knew it was coming and it ended up being a great play. We need some of that. I think if anything it will help rattlers confidence as well.

 

[18IsTheMan]

He had some good pockets on Saturday. He was throwing everything off his back foot while backing up. Can’t have that. Sometimes you have to stand in there and take the hit to make the great play. We need that. Remember when Dylan Thompson came in on that last drive against Michigan and through the long touchdown to Bruce Ellington? He got absolutely nailed but he hung in there and threw the ball stepping forward. He knew it was coming and it ended up being a great play. We need some of that. I think if anything it will help rattlers confidence as well.

Spencer certainly shoulders some of the blame and he made his share of poor throws. But some of it certainly is just that our offense, overall, is a mess and he probably doesn't have any confidence in anything. I wouldn't if I were him.

 

[gcockwin]

Doty brought calm and order to the team in my opinion. Rattler seems scattered and erratic. And the team seems to play the same way under him.

I think Doty needs a start.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Doty brought calm and order to the team in my opinion. Rattler seems scattered and erratic. And the team seems to play the same way under him.

I think Doty needs a start.

Eh, I dunno. He came in against UGAs backups and threw an interception. The TD was the very epitome of a garbage time TD. Not a lot you can base on that.

 

[gcockwin]

Haven't seen anything from Rattler to warrant the next start. But we'll do it because I'm sure we promised the world to him. He should have been benched after the 2nd or 3rd series to send a message. Have a feeling he needs to be brought back down to earth a bit. We all but anointed him the second coming without even playing one game for us.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Haven't seen anything from Rattler to warrant the next start. But we'll do it because I'm sure we promised the world to him. He should have been benched after the 2nd or 3rd series to send a message. Have a feeling he needs to be brought back down to earth a bit. We all but anointed him the second coming without even playing one game for us.

On this forum, at least, there was a fair amount of caution as to what to expect from Rattler.

 

[Lurker123]

He had some good pockets on Saturday. He was throwing everything off his back foot while backing up.

I distinctly remember the announcers calling him out on this. They showed a replay where he had a good pocket, and he floated back throwing off his back foot.

Maybe he's already gunshy from the OL play so far?

 

[18IsTheMan]

I distinctly remember the announcers calling him out on this. They showed a replay where he had a good pocket, and he floated back throwing off his back foot.

Maybe he's already gunshy from the OL play so far?

I'm sure that has something to do with it. At least one article I read, said UGA was pressuring him all day, so I don't necessarily fault him for not throwing a perfect pass the one time they actually gave him a clean pocket. Ideally, yes, but if the QB has been conditioned to have zero confidence in his OL, that can certainly affect his mechanics and thinking. He's not off the hook, of course, but I think it's all part of the problem. They had 9 QB hurries in the game.

 

[gcockwin]

I don't think the O-line played that terrible actually. He definitely had more time back there than he did against Arky (even GA State at times).

 

[The Reel Ess]

I distinctly remember the announcers calling him out on this. They showed a replay where he had a good pocket, and he floated back throwing off his back foot.

Maybe he's already gunshy from the OL play so far?

He has PTSD

 

[cocean]

Sad truth...rattler isnt that good....move on

 

[CockofEarle]

Spencer certainly shoulders some of the blame and he made his share of poor throws. But some of it certainly is just that our offense, overall, is a mess and he probably doesn't have any confidence in anything. I wouldn't if I were him.

He’ll recover from the shell shock of Saturday……..it will however remain for the surrounding members to make the key difference.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

One of the coaches at OU stated that one of Rattlers faults is that he would continue to repeat the same mistakes.
TWFWIW.

 

[92Pony]

I distinctly remember the announcers calling him out on this. They showed a replay where he had a good pocket, and he floated back throwing off his back foot.

Maybe he's already gunshy from the OL play so far?

He has PTSD

I said as much in another post - at least that's my uneducated opinion. I never watched him any at Oklahoma, but I bet his OL protected him much better there. First live action here and he has to be going, "WT* is this?!?!!"

 

[DeBoer31]

Too many fans bought into the Rattler hype. There was a reason he was benched at OK and it wasn't because he was so good he made everyone else jealous.

He was benched at OU with the following going into the season:
-The HC/OCs blessing the job was his.
-A built in, big # offense with lots of help for a QB EVEN IF he doesn't have the best OL or run game
-Plenty of talent around him offensively..legit players
-Better teammates/coaches than 95% of the teams he would have to play in his entire career while at OU
-Guaranteed worse programs than the one he was at (day in and out) in conference play
-An offense that not many other QBs (at all) have failed or tanked at while run at mid-major to p5 programs.

Then he came to USC. Now - does he have any of those automatic scenarios listed above in his favor now? It's gonna be a long season....again.

 

[gcockwin]

Doty needs to be in this QB mix. Period.

 

[Sparklecity]

Haven't seen anything from Rattler to warrant the next start. But we'll do it because I'm sure we promised the world to him. He should have been benched after the 2nd or 3rd series to send a message. Have a feeling he needs to be brought back down to earth a bit. We all but anointed him the second coming without even playing one game for us.

Not all of us! But lord forbid you say anything negative about the team and get blasted , called a troll, and asked for your age and coaching credentials and told you should think twice before posting again. I kinda get a chuckle out of it now because I'm one of the few not huddled in the corner sobbing. Some of you will be back posting at the end of the season IF there is a bowl game and IF it's won how this is a great springboard for recruiting next year and see at least 8 wins and 4 toss ups

 

[Blues man]

I distinctly remember the announcers calling him out on this. They showed a replay where he had a good pocket, and he floated back throwing off his back foot.

Maybe he's already gunshy from the OL play so far?

Entirely possible. Saw the same thing happen to Bentley here. When the line eventually got better, he pretty much stayed in panic mode. IMO anyway

 

[USCME]

Honestly though, he had that at Oklahoma, and underwhelmed.

I disagree 100%, he underwhelmed? How so? Just basically 1 game and it was all over. I believe he has more talent than any other qb on our team, is that a debatable subject? Please advise..... not trying to start an argument just seeing if maybe I'm way off on my thoughts. Thanks!!!

 

[Lurker123]

I disagree 100%, he underwhelmed? How so? Just basically 1 game and it was all over. I believe he has more talent than any other qb on our team, is that a debatable subject? Please advise..... not trying to start an argument just seeing if maybe I'm way off on my thoughts. Thanks!!!

I don't think it was one game. The stats for his sophomore season were

Team. TD. INT
Tulane. 1 2
W carolina. 5 0
Nebraska. 1 0
WVU. 1 1
Ksu. 2 1
Texas. 0 1

Other than the 5 td game against a patsy, he had 5 td's and 5 int's against teams that his team out-talented. (If that's a word)

 

[Prestonyte]

Doty was brought in a little late against Charlotte. Needs more game time experience. I like his quickness and speed when running and he throws a very catchable ball. His interception was horrible and should never have been thrown. He needs to be in the mix so we can play whoever has the hot hand at the moment.

 

[gamecock stock]

Rattler was benched at OU for making too many poor decisions on the field. It seems to me that he has carried that over to SC. I agree that too many people bought into the hype. I hope he eventually lives up to that hype. Everybody here does. He needs better coaching to cut down on those bad decisions. BUT, Rattler has a proven ZERO as his QB coach, whom, to my knowledge has never developed a good QB in his career. That's not to say absolutely he has not. Just not aware that he has. But, again, I'm pulling for him. I just don't happen to be optimistic.

And by the way, I agree with what someone posted earlier on another thread. Why did we not use the exhibition game against Charlotte to work on our passing game, rather than running game? I tried to understand it but, just don't.

 

[Slim Chickens Gamecock]

problem with Rattler is his arm talent allows him to play football like a video game. He lacks passion clearly. I don't buy you need a Quarterback with a calm demeanor stuff. WE need on of those QB's like that kid from Northern IL a few years ago, that roll their sleeves up above their shoulder and gets in the face of an Olineman in the huddle who missed their assignment or who can gain 4 yards buy running like he means it on 3rd down and 3. Our scheme allows defenses to know rattler containment is not an issue plus with porous OL then the deep throw threat diminishes with a high Safety(only one needed) instead of two. And now the middle of the field is covered because LB's don't have to be on the box. WE are very much like the NY Giants. If you watched that game you would realize the Cowboys should have/could have won by 4 touchdowns. The Giants offense should not gain any yards albeit what Barkley gets on off tackle runs. Yet the gained when the receivers went deep opening up the middle of the field for un-designed QB runs. The problem with Doty is he comes in and presses to prove himself. He has talent but does not exhibit the physical toughness either to be the Conner Shaw needed to open up things.

 

[Tidalcock]

I really thought we would be better on offense. With Vann coming back, Bell having a monster Bowl game, Austin Stoger transferring in, Marshawn Lloyd being 100% and Juju being Juju. I have to put all of it on the Offensive line. Saw very early in the Georgia State game that we aren't good up front.

I was thinking the same.

 

[Boudreaux and Pete]

I knew Rattler was not a Heisman QB, but I thought he would at least make things interesting. So far, not. Granted, he’s not getting much help.

With all the fanfare coming in I like you expected much more than what we are seeing so far this season. Maybe in the next few weeks things will pick up..hopefully

He's 13 of 18 however and the two INT's were more on the receivers than him.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

As a program, we’re boring to watch on both sides of the ball. I switched over to the BYU -Utah State game at times last night. Much better product on the field and BYU stadium was loud.

 

[gamecock stock]

Don't be shocked if we have our best offensive performance of the year next week. When we had extra time to prepare last year, we had our best offensive performances (Florida and North Carolina).

 

[The Reel Ess]

Don't be shocked if we have our best offensive performance of the year next week. When we had extra time to prepare last year, we had our best offensive performances (Florida and North Carolina).

Well, it wouldn't take that much to be the best performance yet. I'll be pleasantly shocked if we beat UK. That's the only path I really see to 6 wins.

 

[Prestonyte]

Thought Rattler played well last night - interceptions were definitely on the receivers. Coaches are obviously very sensitive to pulling Rattler and giving Doty some meaningful game time and wait til mop up time to bring him in. A series for Doty in the first half the last 2 weeks would have been very productive in learning more about Doty and giving him some confidence experience wise.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

Don't be shocked if we have our best offensive performance of the year next week. When we had extra time to prepare last year, we had our best offensive performances (Florida and North Carolina).

I agree with Syvelle.

 

[Lurker123]

Don't be shocked if we have our best offensive performance of the year next week. When we had extra time to prepare last year, we had our best offensive performances (Florida and North Carolina).

I've always had a tough time agreeing with this idea because of the circumstances around the uf game.

Agreed on the bowl, though.

 

[BigJC]

I agree with Syvelle.

Those are definitely "meh" numbers against a grossly overmatched opponent. 219 yds passing isn't anything to crow about either against SC State. We've gotten all the "gimmes" we're going to get this season, even Vandy and Missouri are going to be games we will have to actually play decent to win. Whether the interceptions were on the receivers or Rattler, they were still interceptions and against a team with comparable talent will cost us. A loss to either Vandy or Missouri and we could easily be facing a 4-8 season unless Florida is as bad as they look so far.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The worst part is that we have not looked physically dominant against Ga St, Charlotte or SC St.