North Carolina Won't Repeal Its Transgender Bathroom Law. We would have played closer to home!
Just having some fun, cheer up guys! We are still DUKE!!
Just having some fun, cheer up guys! We are still DUKE!!
There is only one reason why Duke lost:
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There is no denying that the crowd played a factor in the game. It was a hostile environment, but ultimately they just outplayed us.
We were totally outplayed, but the sun came out today and my family is healthy. Just trying to add some humor for some of you today. Things could be a lot worse!
USC shouldn't have been allowed to play a home game as a seven seed. Imagine Duke, a 7 seed, playing in Greensboro or Charlotte. Can you imagine the outcry?
Duke has played in Raleigh and Greensboro with hostile crowds because of the UNC/Anti-Duke factor from other fans. For the other teams at these sites, Duke is Goliath. They want to slay them. It is the ultimate form of respect really.
Nova and L'ville also lost this weekend. No much is being said about it when you compare it to the coverage the Duke loss is getting.
Nova and L'ville also lost this weekend. No much is being said about it when you compare it to the coverage the Duke loss is getting.
But that's exactly it: S. Car should have been able to play at it's real home arena, but a 2-seed should still be able to defeat a 7 seed. If you look at the numbers, that's like saying a top 10 team (a 2-seed) with decades of tourney experience should be able to beat an uranked team (7-seed) that hasn't won a tourney game since the 70s. I'm in no way trolling; I'm just saying.
IMO using the "we played a 7 seed basically a home game for them" stuff is weak...we got our asses kicked by a tough team that out toughed us period
Until we get a legit center that can shot block and stop the easy paint baskets that went on all year I don't see us advancing much more than Sunday. Man has the program ever got questions at this time on the makeup of the 13 for next season. Duval and Knox would sure help but they better be involved with a couple others.
The real question is: what is ESPN going to talk about now since Grayson and Duke have been eliminated?
Call it whatever, but it's still a fact. What other 2 seed played their 7/10 seed in a virtual road game?
There are plenty of Kansas players and UNC not responding to their third NOA to fill up the time. Wonder if they'll consider both topics?
That's not why we got beat. The Carolina Game Cocks handed our rear ends to us plain and simple. OFC
To me it's just an excuse for getting our asses handed to us...but that may be just me
Crazy right?! It's the NCAA tournament and everyone loses most years. There is a lot of parity in college basketball now, more so than probably ever, the OAD movement means some big time teams falter each year, and some veteran teams like Nova and Lville also get upset. It happens. It's one game. If they were 7 game series then we could tell if there was really a problem, but most likely Duke just got beat one night for a whole bunch of reasons.
Honestly - I would have taken us straight up @ South Carolina's actual true home court
Vegas had the spread @ 6. So we choked. Not epic or even historic proportions but memorable.
Vegas had the spread @ 6. So we choked. Not epic or even historic proportions but memorable.
Thank you. All the cliches apply..."they wanted it more" , "they worked harder" , "they outhustled Duke" etc. Yeah , Duke deserved a better venue as a 2-seed but so what? They play in hostile arenas all year long. Get over it. SC was physical and Duke freaked-the-eff-out. Seemed like most of those TO's were unforced. A SC defender got NEAR a Duke ball-handler and there goes the rock. Their physicality and effort so intimidated Duke even when they didn't body-up , a Blue Devil would turn the ball over. Gun-shy , or somethin.' I dunno. Regardless , SC was playin' their butts off but still no excuse for losing to 'em. They had one player of note. Duke is loaded. Offensively-challenged team , at one point , led Duke by double-digits. Pitiful.
Duke had to travel less than 4 hours and South Carolina close to 2 hours. Not that much difference. Should have been many more Duke fans there.
Double isn't a difference? Lol most weren't Sc fans anyway just sad UNC fans that can't beat them on there own
There is a big difference in traveling an hour compared to 4 hours, especially when a game starts at 9pm. I, myself traveled 5 hours to watch that travesty and I'm glad to know I fit your bill of a true fan.
Yes, Duke should have been able to overcome last night. I agree there. But what Duke has accomplished the last 30 years doesn't really have a bearing, nor does the fact that USC hasn't won a tourney game since the 70s.
And while I think the venue argument is weak, it's not often you see a 7-seed playing a quasi home game in the second round. If there's one thing I know about UNC fans it's that there would be outrage from them had the same gone down for them and they were the recipient. How much conspiracy talk would UNC fans be screaming about, if say, the south regional this weekend was in Lexington? Those kinds of things just shouldn't happen. Again, I think the argument is weak and it's not why we lost, but that doesn't mean it's not a talking point.
Bottom line....Duke got their asses handed to them and they're out.
Just to reiterate. Duke got their azzes handed to 'em. No excuses...certainly not about the venue anyway. That said , I think the committee could endeavor to avoid putting Duke and unx on the same court. Like in Charlotte a few years ago , having both teams together invariably ends with both fan bases cheering against the other. unx was a 1 seed. They earned the right to stay as close as possible. I'd just as soon Duke get shipped further to avoid the same situation. And this thing about doing it for the "fans" is bs. Duke is a national brand. The Yankees...Notre Dame...Duke. They got fans ( and haters ) everywhere. My 2 cents.
Duke ran into a team with a bunch of men. Being a sophomore at Duke has become like being an upperclassmen. Duke has had only one senior class in tact since probably the 2010 championship team. If this Duke team had Thornton and Ojele, Duke probably wins by 20. The allure of early playing time and the spotlight leads kids to making hasty decisions. Duke and Kentucky are the only 2 teams to have won a title being lead by one and done freshmen, and even in those situations they had upperclassmen who played huge roles in those championships. If Amile had not gotten injured last year, where would Duke be this year with only one senior in Matt Jones. It seems like Duke has a totally different team every year.
Well, i attended the games in Greenville. The crowd was a huge factor. Basically SC got two home games. It is ridiculous that a low seed got to have such a huge advantage. If SC got thrown out west and we played a different team - the crowd would have been heavily in our favor. Instead - we would have been better off playing somewhere else.
its a joke that we were a 2 seed and basically had the disadvantage compared to a much lower seed. thats not the way the seeding system is supposed to work.
yes we did not look good in the tourney. Giles was lost on the court. Luke was dazed and confused and Tatum mad a few too many uncharacteristic plays. 18 or so turnovers sealed our fate.
its a joke that we were a 2 seed and basically had the disadvantage compared to a much lower seed. thats not the way the seeding system is supposed to work.
yes we did not look good in the tourney. Giles was lost on the court. Luke was dazed and confused and Tatum mad a few too many uncharacteristic plays. 18 or so turnovers sealed our fate.
Because they're high seeds. That's how it's always been.
It depends where the games are scheduled. Believe it or not, the NCAA doesn't decide on Selection Sunday where games are going to be played. That's predetermined.
I was just telling a UNC fan today that he would have been livid if that game was played in Arkansas. They won't admit it, but we all know it.
In my opinion, the selection committee did an awful job almost across the board. They pretty much had the brackets locked in before conference tourneys. That's just lazy. Duke wasn't the only team to get hosed. Look at overall 1 seed Villanova. They were, by the committee rules, supposed to get the best draw and they had to play Wisconsin in the second game lol. That's AWFUL! From top to bottom this bracket was puzzling. You can't convince me they don't set-up future games either (ie. Wojo and Marq; this happens every year, I know).
If all that wasn't enough to piss ya off, we got to see our guys completely fold after the half. The image of Luke laughing on the bench at something is seared in my head. Like, wtf was there to laugh about??
UNC fans going around acting like they won a trophy for escaping Arkansas lol. Lastly, is there an ice rink under that floor in SC? It seemed like the ball was constantly slipping out of people's hands from both teams and players were falling every where... I can't stand how they put players at risk of injury by playing in an arena where a hockey team plays.
In my opinion, the selection committee did an awful job almost across the board. They pretty much had the brackets locked in before conference tourneys. That's just lazy. Duke wasn't the only team to get hosed. Look at overall 1 seed Villanova. They were, by the committee rules, supposed to get the best draw and they had to play Wisconsin in the second game lol. That's AWFUL! From top to bottom this bracket was puzzling. You can't convince me they don't set-up future games either (ie. Wojo and Marq; this happens every year, I know).
If all that wasn't enough to piss ya off, we got to see our guys completely fold after the half. The image of Luke laughing on the bench at something is seared in my head. Like, wtf was there to laugh about??
UNC fans going around acting like they won a trophy for escaping Arkansas lol. Lastly, is there an ice rink under that floor in SC? It seemed like the ball was constantly slipping out of people's hands from both teams and players were falling every where... I can't stand how they put players at risk of injury by playing in an arena where a hockey team plays.
We got beat because we have no pg. The offense is 99% isolation occurring with the best match up. No set plays to get people open with screens. Either drive and kick or one on one. You just don't win without a pg
We didn't have a PG in 2010... turned out ok for us. Just saying. It can be done.
If you use the 2010 team as example, then we must recognize that teams extraordinary size and strong experience. The following the 2011 team was more talented and only won 1 of the 3 titles '10 did.
I do agree Scheyer would have been a superior table setter but not the difference over Frank/Allen at PG - for a NCAA Title. We had bigger issues
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