Cincy, BYU, Houston and UCF. OK. Any chance one of them or more does not accept, or that one or more can't get the votes? Who is next on the list? I'd say Memphis obviously, but then it gets less obvious, at least to me. I don't like the idea of Boise State, hate that blue rug, more travel for WVU. As far as geography goes, I'd like to see another team east of the Mississippi. Anyone but Temple I guess.
These 4 schools look like the targets
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Replace Houston with Memphis. Houston should only make the cut if the conference is going to add 6 schools at which point UH, Tulane and SMU may make good considerations.
BYU, Cincy, and UCF are no brainers. Each has successful football programs at their level. Each expands the Big 12 foot print, although Ohio and Florida are better places to put that footprint than Utah. Memphis beats out Houston solely based upon getting that footprint into Tennessee since the Big 12 already has 3 schools in Texas.
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I agree. But I really wish WVU wasn't a part of this reboot G5 upgrade level. It is what it is.
I do as well. The Big 12 moving forward will be like the BE 2.0. I fear the Big 12 though has a much higher likelihood of being on the outside looking in than BE 2.0 did under the BCS system. It's also a tenuous position in that any school is likely to jump at an offer from the other 4 "power" conferences. The ACC will not be long in joining the Big 12 on this level as Clemson and FSU either wither on the vine over the next decade or get scooped up at the next realignment. Without them, the ACC are better than the Big 12 only academically. If teams like UNC, Miami, and UVA find safe harbor as well during the next realignment, the remaining ACC teams would be as likely to join the Big 12 rather than the reverse. I just don't see WVU staying in the highest level of college football competition when it's all over because I see almost 2/3 or division 1 teams being excluded. Knowing that, I think WVU needs a home in the "best of the rest" league.
And what would that be? Cause the way it looks like the Big12 is moving, it is not it.
Your anti Christian bigotry
raises its head again I see. Or...is it the only comment you know how to paste?It would be the fifth best conference, still in the Power5. although I have heard some compelling arguments that the PAC12 and the new BIG12 are really not that far apart. In ten or fifteen years there may be more movement involving Clemson, FSU, USC, Oregon and then the bottom three may be in different positions. The AAC, without Cincy, UCF and either Houston or Memphis is a very distant 6th place conference, at best no matter what happens in the BIG, ACC, SEC or PAC.
If the big 12 added 4 teams there probably wouldn't be much difference between them and the pac 12. Its just that the pac 12 still has some blue bloods in the conference. None of the remaining Big 12 teams have the star power of the other conferences. We would have to prove ourselves over and over and any slip up would result in a media lynch mob. The best scenario would be for the big 12 to have a 2006 big east like season play out over and over again when Louisville Rutgers and Wvu brought the conference race down to the wire.
I got the impression by reading the ESPN article that these four had approached the Big 12, and not necessarily the other way around.
Seems like the lynch mob is already in operation. Play with attitude and a chip on your shoulders. In some ways I am glad Texas and Oklahoma are gone. They pretty much had it all but it wasn't enough. Sort of hope they are rich and miserable.
ESPN reporting as of about an hour ago: "BYU, Houston, UCF and Cincinnati are planning to submit applications next week to join the Big 12, sources confirmed to ESPN on Friday."
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Don't believe that Big12 statement for a second, just saying that so the AAC don't bring something against them.
Hey given your documented love for BYU you should apply for a pr position there. Just clean up your poor grammar and spelling and give it a whirl!
Houston should of been 5th with SMU 6th. Top 4 should of been Cincinnati, Memphis, UCF, and USF. Doesn't matter how good or bad those are.
Usually I agree with you, but not on this. I think Holgy will turn the corner with them soon.
Why is not wanting BYU anti Christian? BYU brings a lot of problems with scheduling other sports because they refuse to play on Sun. Travel from EST to RMT is another problem. Adding Cincy and UCF and hopefully Memphis and USF closes the island that WVU is on. BYU is on an island on the other side.
Agree with the top 4. next 4 could be a debate. There are a few good programs out there other than AAC teams.
Why is BYU a mistake? They have a national name and a good following. Besides ND, which isn't going to join the Big 12, they're the best available by far IMO.
Really hoping BYU is football only. Big hassle for other sports for not only more travel but not playing on Sunday. Maybe we can talk Navy into a football only membership someday. Not a powerhouse but they are already playing in the AAC, they offer tradition, national audience, great road trip, another school in the East. Bring them in with Memphis and it is a balanced league at 12 for all other sports, 14 for football.
It's over doffuses. Bringing on the four I told you last month. Will be done this week if things stay on track. BYU...Houston...Cincinnati...UCF.
Pushing false narratives
They left because their rival left. Couldn’t be in a G5 conference while Utah was in a P5
So they became independent and acted like a power conference school while as an independent
But they don’t carry the same weight as ND
Look who is really push false narratives, leaving because of Utah, that's funny.
Never was a power school and still isn't.
According to scheduling they were as an independent
Reason why they made the move. Plus revenue.
Have to compete against their rival
One of the reasons why the Big 12 likes them. Would be interested in pushing west for recruiting as well as eyeballs
I don't see the value add or increased footprint with Navy or any service academy. I'd say BYU, Cincy, UCF, Memphis, Tulane, Houston, USF are all better options than Navy
Tulane put in an application on the field today, falling to mighty Oklahoma 40-35 at Oklahoma.