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Police shoot an unarmed man in Florida laying on the street with his hands up. He is a care taker/therapist at a Group home and an autistic patient got out and he was trying to get him back. They were setting in the middle of the road. The autistic man was setting up and the care taker/therapist was lying down on his back with with his hands up.
He was telling them that all the young man had was a toy truck and to please don't shoot. They shot him anyway for some reason. The care taker/therapist is a black man. Thankfully he survived. He was shot in the leg.

There is video of the incident. I apologize for not knowing how to post it or link it.
 
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Dude asked the cop why he shot him, cops response, " I don't know". This one is bad and thankfully it's just a flesh wound.
 

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How come nobody starts threads about the cops playing with the inner city kids, or the communities coming together with the police departments to engage each other about the issues at hand in a civil manner?
 
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Bunny Colvin had the right idea about how to police a neighborhood. Get the cops out of their cars and/or add some beat cops. Walk the streets...get to know the people and I bet they'd be more cooperative when the POlice needed help. And just maybe the officers won't be so scared of the area they are responsible for.

I have a white/black theory on the issue. White/Black cops that grew up in well to do neighborhoods shouldn't patrol neighborhoods they've only heard about on the news. Too many are already scared while in those neighborhoods and are too quick to pull the most powerful weapon at their disposal for what sometimes appears to be not a good reason.

I'm not a officer of the law, but since I grew up where I did, the nightly news neighborhoods don't scare me. Those people are the people I grew up with. If more cops came up with my background perhaps less violence would take place. Can't be scared or assume the worst.

Again...just a theory.
 

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It was rhetorical.

So you were trying to make a point that people don't start threads like that, while yourself being perfectly capable of starting a thread like that and choosing not to do so?

That comes across as just wanting something to ***** about, which, ironically, is probably why people don't start threads like that.
 

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I read the news story earlier. To be clear, the therapist who had his hands up got shot. He asked the cop "why did you shoot me?".

The cop replied, "I don't know.".
 
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which again makes me think accidental discharge or the cop has a tremor in his trigger finger.

"I don't know" [roll]. What an idiot.
Oops.

Just imagine that cop getting home from work.

Wife: Hi honey. How was your day? Did you meet your quota?

Cop: Usual stuff mostly, then I accidentally shot a guy. He cried like a baby.

After they shot him, they cuffed him and made him lay face down for 20 min while waiting on the ambulance.
 

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Doubt it gets ugly. Cop was an idiot on this one and the dude on the ground did exactly what he was supposed to do. Therefore, the cop is likely going to pay with his job and possibly face charges. Exactly how it's supposed to work and likely will.

Reasonable people understand this. This is NOTHING like the other situations.
 
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Now they are saying that the cop was trying to shoot the autistic patient because they thought he was a threat to the therapist and missed and hit the therapist. Fantastic.
 
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Doubt it gets ugly. Cop was an idiot on this one and the dude on the ground did exactly what he was supposed to do. Therefore, the cop is likely going to pay with his job and possibly face charges. Exactly how it's supposed to work and likely will.

Reasonable people understand this. This is NOTHING like the other situations.
True, but the belief that cops target black men and shoot them for no reason was on full display here.
There is no reason the cop who shot him should have a job anymore. Just pathetic. There is nothing, literally, else the man could have done to prevent being shot.
Now it will be that even complying with the cops still gets you shot.
 
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Doubt it gets ugly. Cop was an idiot on this one and the dude on the ground did exactly what he was supposed to do. Therefore, the cop is likely going to pay with his job and possibly face charges. Exactly how it's supposed to work and likely will.

Reasonable people understand this. This is NOTHING like the other situations.


Then I assume you support body cams on ALL police that is monitored by a non-biased 3rd party agency (not like the red light camera companies which is worse than a Bernie Madoff scam). Don't get even me mf'ing started on the local gov't and their criminal red light cameras (which evidence supports red light cameras cause more death. People would **** themselves if they know how red light cameras get paid for through the city/company contracts). And I assume you support non paid leave during an investigation where the officer actions may be reprimanded?

If you don;t support that kind of police reform, then obviously you are supporting a criminal cabal.

Police reform will come.
 

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Worked at a group home for almost a decade. Saw situations like this often, without bullets.

Our police department got smart and developed a special unit designed to deal with the mentally ill or developmentally disabled because we had 4 residential treatment facilities in a city of about 100,000. If we had a situation, police knew us and sent that unit.
 

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This is going to get ugly

Oops. Sorry. Thought this was going to be another religion thread.
 

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Worked at a group home for almost a decade. Saw situations like this often, without bullets.

Our police department got smart and developed a special unit designed to deal with the mentally ill or developmentally disabled because we had 4 residential treatment facilities in a city of about 100,000. If we had a situation, police knew us and sent that unit.

Example of smart policing and knowing your community.
 
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Its really remarkable that the cops, with all of this stuff going on, are still this stupid and reckless. Kinda terrifying actually. Wonder how god awful police must have been to minorities when there was no way to record them? Or are they getting worse?

You dont possibly thin k cops are on edge cuz they are getting assassinated left and right?

Then I assume you support body cams on ALL police that is monitored by a non-biased 3rd party agency (not like the red light camera companies which is worse than a Bernie Madoff scam). Don't get even me mf'ing started on the local gov't and their criminal red light cameras (which evidence supports red light cameras cause more death. People would **** themselves if they know how red light cameras get paid for through the city/company contracts). And I assume you support non paid leave during an investigation where the officer actions may be reprimanded?

If you don;t support that kind of police reform, then obviously you are supporting a criminal cabal.

Police reform will come


I agree we need it, big time.

But i dont thi k you can take paid leave away for an investigation. Then no one will do there job. And for a cop who did nothing wrong, doesnt deserve it.

Maybe something like, if proven to be in the wrong, all paid leave is reimbursed or something.
 
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But i dont thi k you can take paid leave away for an investigation. Then no one will do there job. And for a cop who did nothing wrong, doesnt deserve it.

Maybe something like, if proven to be in the wrong, all paid leave is reimbursed or something.


Beautiful. Make it happen. Some type of punishment needs to happen because what we are doing now is re-enforcing bad behavior by letting these unprofessional cops who are paid for by tax payers to continue on. I hate smart phones, but I damn glad they catch this behavior on film. It at least allows the public to see the truth and not the "cop's word"
 
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Beautiful. Make it happen. Some type of punishment needs to happen because what we are doing now is re-enforcing bad behavior by letting these unprofessional cops who are paid for by tax payers to continue on. I hate smart phones, but I damn glad they catch this behavior on film. It at least allows the public to see the truth and not the "cop's word"

Agree, wish we could weed out every bad cop.

But, i dont think any of the cops in the news recently had any intent or ill will. The one in this video probably doesnt have the gonads to be a cop. But there are some out there that are evil, for sure.
 
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Agree, wish we could weed out every bad cop.

But, i dont think any of the cops in the news recently had any intent or ill will. The one in this video probably doesnt have the gonads to be a cop. But there are some out there that are evil, for sure.

And their time of flourishing is coming to an end. Unfortunately, people seem shocked that there are elements of corruption within police departments, as if certain occupations are somehow immune to issues of evil. The quasi-effort by some in our nation to try to paint it as an epidemic is a mockery of any sensible process, however. The media is just as trigger happy as some of these cops are, firing off preconceived assessments before the facts ever emerge.
 

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I'm probably going to hell for this, but I laughed after reading it and then watching the video (so I knew he lived). My father in law is constantly arguing that all you have to do is follow what the police, he says PO-lees, say and everything will be fine. I want him to watch this and then ask if he's going to buy more of those blue light bulbs he has in every outdoor socket.
 

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I'm probably going to hell for this, but I laughed after reading it and then watching the video (so I knew he lived). My father in law is constantly arguing that all you have to do is follow what the police, he says PO-lees, say and everything will be fine. I want him to watch this and then ask if he's going to buy more of those blue light bulbs he has in every outdoor socket.

I would say that typically your father-in-law's position is the norm. Some people win the mega-million lottery; that fact doesn't make my firm expectation of winning any more reasonable, however.

What's getting swept up in these shootings are the hundreds of thousands of law enforcement officials who do their job the right way. That's the norm, not the exception.
 
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Seen this one? Maybe understand the paranoia and the hatred for cops by most blacks that often leads to a yelling or physical confrontation? A Facebook post by a black Cincinnati cop.

"Yep it has made world wide news now...A message to all my Afro America friends and family. When you are encountered by a white officer make sure that you are in a public place, and comply to all of their commands, because they are looking for a reason to kill a black man," read the post by Officer Freddie Vincent that has since been deleted. "And always keep your hands in the air, and never resist. I'm so tired of cops using these famous words 'I was in fear of my life.' I'm praying for Louisiana that could have been my nephew in B.R."