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sooner_mike

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This is what OU will look like in the fall of 2015. I am excited for this team and love that no one gives OU chance of competing next year. When I say competing I'm tallking conference first. Enjoy Sooner fans.

This is OU football
 

soonerfastnloud

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It's funny thing, I was so angry with the coaches, the team everything after this past season; however, now I feel so good about the team. I hope all the new changes and new recruits puts us on top. Maybe not next year but the following. I want to give Bob a chance to turn things around.
 

soonermade

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Call me crazy, but this looks like a Rocky III movie where OU last season was Rocky before fighting Clubber Lang the 1st time when Mickey said "You haven't been hungry since you won that belt" and "he'll knock you into tomorrow Rock".

Well, last season sure did knock OU into tomorrow, I just hope that was the motivation Stoops needed to come back and get that belt like Rocky did the 2nd fight against Clubber Lang.

Loved that speech in the video from Lee Corso about Stoops, gave me chills because that's kind of where OU is at right now!
 

sooner_mike

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Originally posted by soonermade:
Call me crazy, but this looks like a Rocky III movie where OU last season was Rocky before fighting Clubber Lang the 1st time when Mickey said "You haven't been hungry since you won that belt" and "he'll knock you into tomorrow Rock".

Well, last season sure did knock OU into tomorrow, I just hope that was the motivation Stoops needed to come back and get that belt like Rocky did the 2nd fight against Clubber Lang.

Loved that speech in the video from Lee Corso about Stoops, gave me chills because that's kind of where OU is at right now!
Thought the same thing about Lee Corso. Good post!
 

Debou

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I love that video. I've forgotten what its like to have a creative offense with a passing game that throws the ball more than 2 yards.
 

killerbs7

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First, Do we have a QB capable of doing this? Bradford was probably the greatest QB of all time at OU and probably the Big 12.

Second, although I think the change in offensive scheme will eventually be a positive, the offense scored enough points to win (30,33,and 35 in in 3 of the 5 LOSSES. That should be enough to win games). What gives you guys ANY hope the defense will be any better this year?
 

sooner_mike

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Originally posted by killerbs7:
First, Do we have a QB capable of doing this? Bradford was probably the greatest QB of all time at OU and probably the Big 12.

Second, although I think the change in offensive scheme will eventually be a positive, the offense scored enough points to win (30,33,and 35 in in 3 of the 5 LOSSES. That should be enough to win games). What gives you guys ANY hope the defense will be any better this year?
Recruiting, go have a view at the New incoming players. Very talented bunch. Even if none of them Started they will push the guys in front of them. And that will translate to better play on the field, if not they will get yanked for a younger hungry player. And yes we have 4 very capable qb's on the roster.

This post was edited on 2/5 4:32 PM by sooner_mike
 

Soonerheart

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It's a team that quit on itself last year. It's a team that's
made up of too many players who are saving their bodies and best efforts for
the NFL…. For way too many players OU is just a developmental stop along the
way. Not enough players have enough love in their hearts for OU, like us hard
core fans do.


Until this changes, by recruiting a different mindset….. all
the other needed changes won't make that much difference.
 

soonermade

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I totally disagree with that statement. Going into last season, the major losses were the defensive backfield and it showed during the season. If OU had more experience and talent in the defensive backfield, they would've faired MUCH better.

With the addition of some very talented DBs coming in, much needed experience for the other DBs and a new secondary coach, I think the defense will be MUCH improved next season.

I also think Riley will have the QBs ready to play, along with the WRs.

No reason to think OU won't be MUCH better next season.
 
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Soonerheart

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Originally posted by soonermade:
I totally disagree with that statement. Going into last season, the major losses were the defensive backfield and it showed during the season. If OU had more experience and talent in the defensive backfield, they would've faired MUCH better.

With the addition of some very talented DBs coming in, much needed experience for the other DBs and a new secondary coach, I think the defense will be MUCH improved next season.

I also think Riley will have the QBs ready to play, along with the WRs.

No reason to think OU won't be MUCH better next season.
OU should be much better next season..... but before OU wins
another national title OU players will need to lose their attitudes that OU is not
much more than a NFL farm team.
 

WhyNotaSooner

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Originally posted by Soonerheart:

It's a team that quit on itself last year. It's a team that's
made up of too many players who are saving their bodies and best efforts for
the NFL…. For way too many players OU is just a developmental stop along the
way. Not enough players have enough love in their hearts for OU, like us hard
core fans do.


Until this changes, by recruiting a different mindset….. all
the other needed changes won't make that much difference.
There's no doubt that the coaches lost the teamlast year. I don't see that happening this year. I do see some players getting past up on the charts though if they don't buy into the new changes.
 

Yankees03

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idk guys. Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. In other words, ill believe it when i see it. The incoming freshman class is exciting but I doubt they contribute a whole lot in 2015 especially on Defense
 

DeutschSooner

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Originally posted by soonermade:
I totally disagree with that statement. Going into last season, the major losses were the defensive backfield and it showed during the season. If OU had more experience and talent in the defensive backfield, they would've faired MUCH better.

With the addition of some very talented DBs coming in, much needed experience for the other DBs and a new secondary coach, I think the defense will be MUCH improved next season.

I also think Riley will have the QBs ready to play, along with the WRs.

No reason to think OU won't be MUCH better next season.
On the contrary...there is no reason to think OU will be ANY better next season.

You're falling prey to the biggest fallacy OU has had - offseason optimism.

Except for 2 new coaches, we have no empirical evidence this staff can develop players. I think Mike Stoops backed himself into a corner, probably out of desperation, by stating these 6 DBs were the 'best' ever recruited - now he has no excuses. Maybe he already knew that, but if he's relying on 6 freshmen to make an improvement, he better start coaching his *** off.

Jury is out on Riley and developing a QB - hopefully Baker has more in his toolbox to work with than Trevor did, because Hansen and Knight were nowhere near the answer last year. If we're going to do the Mike Leach thing, we have to be able to complete more than 47% of our passes - more like 65%.

We have 4 or 5 decent, even great, RBs and we move to a spread offense...we'll see. All I'm saying is based on last year, there is no reason to be optimistic for this year.
 

sooner_mike

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Originally posted by stuck in del rio:
Originally posted by soonermade:
I totally disagree with that statement. Going into last season, the major losses were the defensive backfield and it showed during the season. If OU had more experience and talent in the defensive backfield, they would've faired MUCH better.

With the addition of some very talented DBs coming in, much needed experience for the other DBs and a new secondary coach, I think the defense will be MUCH improved next season.

I also think Riley will have the QBs ready to play, along with the WRs.

No reason to think OU won't be MUCH better next season.
On the contrary...there is no reason to think OU will be ANY better next season.

You're falling prey to the biggest fallacy OU has had - offseason optimism.

Except for 2 new coaches, we have no empirical evidence this staff can develop players. I think Mike Stoops backed himself into a corner, probably out of desperation, by stating these 6 DBs were the 'best' ever recruited - now he has no excuses. Maybe he already knew that, but if he's relying on 6 freshmen to make an improvement, he better start coaching his *** off.

Jury is out on Riley and developing a QB - hopefully Baker has more in his toolbox to work with than Trevor did, because Hansen and Knight were nowhere near the answer last year. If we're going to do the Mike Leach thing, we have to be able to complete more than 47% of our passes - more like 65%.

We have 4 or 5 decent, even great, RBs and we move to a spread offense...we'll see. All I'm saying is based on last year, there is no reason to be optimistic for this year.
You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.



So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.
 
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Originally posted by sooner_mike:

You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.

So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.
It doesn't have to do with just the last game of the year. I'm sure most OU fans will be much more cautious going into next season with their expectations after having such a lopsided result in 2014 considering where the expectations where going into the season. But this team has alot of work to do if it wants to seriously challenge for the conference again and get back to contending for national titles like it should.

This past season was absolutely the biggest disaster of the Bob Stoops era. Sure Bob has had seasons with similar records, but those other seasons you could see the team improve and play better and better as the season progressed. This OU team last year peaked with the Tenn and WVU games, then it was nothing but wheels coming off the rest of the way. It culminated with the coaching staff clearly losing this team by the end of the year. That's something we have NEVER seen happen to a Bob Stoops team.

So yes, OU has some very serious issues to correct during this offseason. And it doesn't have anything to do with people just wanting to be negative. It has to do with seeing with their own eyes the debacle on the field last season that should cause legitimate concern for any OU fan as to where the program goes from here. Hopefully the changes on the staff will pay off. But we also said the same thing a few years ago when Bob cleaned house and brought in alot of new coaches, and 2014 happened. Like you said Mike...it is what it is.
 
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DeutschSooner

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Originally posted by sooner_mike:

You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.



So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.
I don't think I am being negative - I think I am being realistic. I'm not going to buy into the hype that is generated over spring and summer based on workouts and drills, and the idiom that 'because we recruited player X we're going to be improved'...

I want OU to win all it's games, in every sport but I know longer 'expect' it in Football, which I have for years (my first game attended was 1975, vs. Kansas). I want Bob to turn this ship around, but I don't think he can or will. I think there is something deeply wrong in the Switzer Center, and I can't put my finger on what it is, whether is the nepotism, the (until the last 2 weeks) general malaise this staff has towards recruiting, the fact that the Administration limits how competitive this staff can be by not allowing more bodies/$$$$ to be spent on recruiting (see 'compliance issues' post on Insider board)...sadly until the University realizes just how important football is to the University itself, I am not sure we can win again. Sure, we might win a Big 12 championship, but I don't think we can compete with the LSUs, Alabamas, Ohio States, etc that don't have such self-imposed restrictions...

I continue to be dismayed at why Kish is employed. I think Bob brought back the wrong Stoops brother and should have brought Mark in before he was hired at Kentucky. I don't know why anyone who gets fired as a head coach is automatically the #1 person for an opening - I mean, I know some people, ala Gary Gibbs, make better coordinators than head coaches, but Mike's been back three years now and we can't find a LBer to commit? (I know, we got 2 this year, better than last year, but how do you play a 3-4 and recruit an average of 1 LBer every year?) Bob won't fire Mike, Kish is Mike's boy, so now we've wasted 2 positions on a staff that continues to decline in developing talent...our last 5 star that committed may not ever play a down for us (still not convinced Mixon ever sees the field - if he does, kudos to him for sticking it out and enduring excessive punishment in my eyes - IMO, he should've knocked the ***** out if stories are true).

I have thought before this season - for the last 4 years or so that our decline was due to recruiting, and I still think this, but after seeing this last year I'm not so sure that only recruiting is to blame...the decision to re-kick vs OSU, the entire Baylor game plan, the performance vs Clemson...all these lead me to believe that something is not right in Norman.

I hope Bob can turn it around. I want to enjoy the pride I felt when OU named him coach. I want to remember how excited I was in 1999 when we went 7-5 and the optimism surrounding the program. I want to have a season ike 2000 all over again, where we shocked the whole world and the October to Remember (Red October, wins vs Nebraska, Kansas State, Texas A&M), we came from nowhere and put a big boot in Bobby Bowden's ***...I want Bob to return to form where he calls a fake punt from his own 23 vs. Alabama, and an injured Michael Thompson (car wreck) catches a pass and scoots 55 yards and the announcers fawn all over Bob, returning his moniker of 'Big Game Bob'. I want all that but I fear it's gone...

I am an optimist. Generally speaking. Except when it comes to the current state of this football program. I fear we will need to backslide quite a bit further before we improve, and I fear a longer backslide will set us back 5 or 6 years.
 

Yankees03

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I agree Stuck. Many times I would be like some guys on here. Come Feb, March and so on I would build up this false hope. However once the season started I would kick myself for being fooled once again. Right now EVERYONE can say their team can be this and that. Rice, SMU, Colorado, whoever can state "Just wait until next year, you'll see" or "I feel this team has turned a corner, we are fine". Right now is all I have to go with. Our LB's are undersized, our secondary is terrible, our QB play was bad and we are losing most of our Oline.
 

WhyNotaSooner

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Originally posted by stuck in del rio:
Originally posted by sooner_mike:

You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.



So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.

Bob won't fire Mike, Kish is Mike's boy, so now we've wasted 2 positions on a staff that continues to decline in developing talent...
I tend to agree. So the only thing Bob Stoops can do is to attempt to outscore the opponent. We're going to see a huge air attack and basketball scores on Saturdays this fall.
 

Soonerborn1959

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Originally posted by WhyNotaSooner:


Originally posted by stuck in del rio:

Originally posted by sooner_mike:


You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.



So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.

Bob won't fire Mike, Kish is Mike's boy, so now we've wasted 2 positions on a staff that continues to decline in developing talent...
I tend to agree. So the only thing Bob Stoops can do is to attempt to outscore the opponent. We're going to see a huge air attack and basketball scores on Saturdays this fall.
I agree WNS. I don't know how anyone else feels but I want a defense on the field that is at least capable of holding opponents in the mid 20's to high 20's. (24-28 pts ) If OU can have a defense capable of doing that to every opponent then a lot of good things can and will happen this upcoming season. However until I see that Mike Stoops can actually do that I fear we just may have a repeat of last season. I miss the days when great defenses existed at OU but that has not been around in quite some time.

Watching college football being turned into basketball scores doesn't do nothing for me. I much prefer the 28-14 type games any day over these new 42-38 type games.
 

sooner_mike

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Originally posted by stuck in del rio:
Originally posted by sooner_mike:

You mean based off the last game you see the Sooners play? OU should just FF all their games now and not even play them, I mean according to your post here, with there being no chance that OU will be improved and all.



So what would it have took to make you happy? Personally I think some folks are just negative period. It is what it is.
I don't think I am being negative - I think I am being realistic. I'm not going to buy into the hype that is generated over spring and summer based on workouts and drills, and the idiom that 'because we recruited player X we're going to be improved'...

I want OU to win all it's games, in every sport but I know longer 'expect' it in Football, which I have for years (my first game attended was 1975, vs. Kansas). I want Bob to turn this ship around, but I don't think he can or will. I think there is something deeply wrong in the Switzer Center, and I can't put my finger on what it is, whether is the nepotism, the (until the last 2 weeks) general malaise this staff has towards recruiting, the fact that the Administration limits how competitive this staff can be by not allowing more bodies/$$$$ to be spent on recruiting (see 'compliance issues' post on Insider board)...sadly until the University realizes just how important football is to the University itself, I am not sure we can win again. Sure, we might win a Big 12 championship, but I don't think we can compete with the LSUs, Alabamas, Ohio States, etc that don't have such self-imposed restrictions...

I continue to be dismayed at why Kish is employed. I think Bob brought back the wrong Stoops brother and should have brought Mark in before he was hired at Kentucky. I don't know why anyone who gets fired as a head coach is automatically the #1 person for an opening - I mean, I know some people, ala Gary Gibbs, make better coordinators than head coaches, but Mike's been back three years now and we can't find a LBer to commit? (I know, we got 2 this year, better than last year, but how do you play a 3-4 and recruit an average of 1 LBer every year?) Bob won't fire Mike, Kish is Mike's boy, so now we've wasted 2 positions on a staff that continues to decline in developing talent...our last 5 star that committed may not ever play a down for us (still not convinced Mixon ever sees the field - if he does, kudos to him for sticking it out and enduring excessive punishment in my eyes - IMO, he should've knocked the ***** out if stories are true).

I have thought before this season - for the last 4 years or so that our decline was due to recruiting, and I still think this, but after seeing this last year I'm not so sure that only recruiting is to blame...the decision to re-kick vs OSU, the entire Baylor game plan, the performance vs Clemson...all these lead me to believe that something is not right in Norman.

I hope Bob can turn it around. I want to enjoy the pride I felt when OU named him coach. I want to remember how excited I was in 1999 when we went 7-5 and the optimism surrounding the program. I want to have a season ike 2000 all over again, where we shocked the whole world and the October to Remember (Red October, wins vs Nebraska, Kansas State, Texas A&M), we came from nowhere and put a big boot in Bobby Bowden's ***...I want Bob to return to form where he calls a fake punt from his own 23 vs. Alabama, and an injured Michael Thompson (car wreck) catches a pass and scoots 55 yards and the announcers fawn all over Bob, returning his moniker of 'Big Game Bob'. I want all that but I fear it's gone...

I am an optimist. Generally speaking. Except when it comes to the current state of this football program. I fear we will need to backslide quite a bit further before we improve, and I fear a longer backslide will set us back 5 or 6 years.
I'm an optimist too, Bob Stoops has never had back to back 5 loss season's. Coach Stoops has managed another top 15 class yet Debbie Down shows her face no matter what. OU will be a different team than last season, they will look much like the team in the video above, that team was crowned conference champs and went on to play for all the marbles. Again don't by into the hype of the last game you see OU play.
 

WhyNotaSooner

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Well let's be honest, a Top 15 recruting class is below the standards that OU should be hauling in each year. It's better than a Top 25 class but not near as solid as a Top 5 Class. OU can do better and should do better. I do agree though next year is next year and it will be a different team.
 

Mister Moses

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No, I don't and I'm not reading and evaluating all those old post. Please explain what remember this means ?I don't read anything on here a second time. I usually don't even read the replies to mine. No offense
 
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Call me crazy, but this looks like a Rocky III movie where OU last season was Rocky before fighting Clubber Lang the 1st time when Mickey said "You haven't been hungry since you won that belt" and "he'll knock you into tomorrow Rock".

Well, last season sure did knock OU into tomorrow, I just hope that was the motivation Stoops needed to come back and get that belt like Rocky did the 2nd fight against Clubber Lang.

Loved that speech in the video from Lee Corso about Stoops, gave me chills because that's kind of where OU is at right now!


what a couple of great lines from that movie..

another one was in that same scene when right referred to clubber lang as a "wrecking machine" Micky was so gritty man.. jesus...