If anyone gets a chance to listen to the Thomas Gilman interview on Flo wrestling please do. It is rather long but a good couple minute segment on him leaving the NLWC to go to Oklahoma State and his thoughts of Cael and Cody. Penn State is so fortunate to have these guys leading the way of the wrestling program and I am not talking about the wins and loses. Just listening to Gilman on how appreciative he was of Cael and Cody on how he was treated while at PSU and after leaving. I know Cael gets the pick of the litter when it comes to recruits but if my son was being recruited there is no way I could not turn down Cael and it has nothing to do with wrestling, its the culture, leadership, and bettering ones self.