better and more animated than he has in years when he was interviewed after PC.
TO sounded.......
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Just was very positive about Frost and his understanding of the culture that made Nebraska great. Also very positive about Moos and the leadership now.
It's all good now. I would say all of us who supported Riley and his staff until almost the bitter end are happy with this hire. Tom is happy I'm sure. The Husker alums are happy. It's all good now we just need to be patient and let him build a program. With any luck we won't have to track any airplanes again in my lifetime.
I caught the end of the press conference and have to say I thought it was pretty funny when they talked about "secretly" meeting in Philadelphia. Can't remember if they mentioned the flight to BeetRice (instead of Lincoln) or not. Clearly we have some amazing sleuths on this board. Winking
I don’t really know why, and I have no evidence to suggest it, but it sure seemed like Osborne was never in the Riley camp.
He seems more than thrilled to have Scott here now.
Maybe he was pissed that Eichorst didn’t consider him in 2014 so Riley just caught the wrath.
He seems more than thrilled to have Scott here now.
Maybe he was pissed that Eichorst didn’t consider him in 2014 so Riley just caught the wrath.
He told Severe that Scott was ready 3 years ago and went on to explain that Lincoln Reilly, Kirby Smart, and Dabo Sweeney were all first time head coaches at their schools and they are all now in the Playoff so yeah I get the feeling he wanted Scott hired in 2014.
I don't know that he disliked Riley so much as he disliked the process that was followed in bringing him in.
Tom could hold a grudge and while I don't think he disliked Riley, I don't think he was very excited by him either. Tom's getting really old. I think he's happy that he thinks we hired a good guy AND good coach that will be with NU for a long time.
Ahhh so it was the old butthurt thing. I would have been fine with Frost 3 years ago. I was ready for anybody but Bo and Frost would have killed it with TA as his QB.
It most definitely would have been rolling the dice but in hindsight it would have likely been a better situation than what we had. Frost's success in Florida could pay off for years to come in recruiting though so I guess all is well that ends well.
Judging from what Frost said today, he may not have accepted three years ago.
I totAlly believe that TO would have told Scott not to come 3 yrs ago. Scott was glad SE didn't call and now so am I. He would have been in a position to turn us down and caused a bunch of crap from fans.
Well - unlike Callahan I doubt it was because Riley was overheard calling TO a crusty old F@#$
At the end of the day we have TO to thank for getting SF here AND for all the leadership positions now filled with people who appreciate football, understand what it means to the University and the State. Leadership as of now has a unified purpose.
The deal is SF said he relies heavily on the opinion of TO
TO said he wasnt interested in playing the "we need you to save the program, you need to come home" card- TO said he was primarily interested in helping SF make a decision that put Scotts interests and needs first
SF said TWICE during the press conference that 3 years ago would have been a terrible time to come to NU- primarily because the leadership and support wasnt there
That leadership and support, a common vision and unity of purpose SF talked about TWICE
That means Eichorst and Pearlman were the problems
At the end of the day Frost said he 100% trusted TO to tell him if the job was NOT in his best interest
TO must have told him it WAS in SF best interest
Dilly Dilly to Moos, Bounds and Green
Big thumbs down to SE and Pearlman
SF trusts TO- because TO told SF to stay at Stanford through Spring ball- when SF wanted to quit. Honestly putting others needs ahead of his. Seen TO do it his entire life.
Kudos for Davison playing behind the scenes secret agent man
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I don't believe that for a second. I think he would have been here faster than you can say "Just a coordinator." I think he was really pissed that he didn't even get a call. For the record, I was really on board with him being hired then, and it makes so much sense that tool Eichorst didn't even contact him. Another opportunity to thank Harvey Perlman for being the complete sack of crap that he is.
It's going to be nice that in his twilight years TO is going to feel much more a part of the program that he was responsible for building. He wasn't a particularly good AD, but he is still almost solely responsible for everything this university's athletic department has been able to build and maintain. I'm very happy for him that he can be comfortable that the program will be in good hands after he is gone. It had to hurt watching the program be had built over 25 years being treated so irresponsibly.
Yes- he was very disappointed he didnt even get a sniff
Yes- he probably WOULD have taken the job
HOWEVER- it would not have been a great fit, because SE and Perlman would have been in charge. Because it was those two, he never got a call and he wouldnt have been successful with them in charge. He talked about that on two separate occasions during the press conference. The unity of purpose and shared vision for excellence on the field was not shared by SE and HP.
I also think TO would have warned SF NOT to take the job had SE and HP been "leading"- which was the case 3 years ago.
It would have been fine with HP and Scott and if Scott didn't like SE, the powers that be would have made sure that SE got canned.
I guess all we can do is take coach Frost at his word. I interpreted it as he would not have come. Timing is right this time because the correct leadership is in place.
Even though I think he would have taken the job then, my post was more so regarding how lost our leadership was 3 years ago. We wouldn't have ended up hiring Mike Riley if it weren't so screwed up.
I'm just thankful that we were fortunate enough this time that timing worked in our favor to be able to circle back and still be able to get him.
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Exactly. This whole narrative is laughable. They are basically saying Scott can only be successful in this exact setting. I think he is better than that and the other stuff is just noise, but that's just me.
I don't think it's much of a mystery. An old coach like Osborne couldn't have been too pleased with the Riley team he saw on the field. Those blow outs must have been especially painful. I'm sure he also was familiar with Riley's long track record at Oregon State just like the rest of us so he knew what was coming before Riley even coached his first Nebraska game.