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AbsoluteZer0

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For all the folks that think Stoops is way up there, he checks in at #4 which isn't bad considering where we are. What I find hard to believe is the salary for Harbaugh, he hasn't proven squat other than he's better than Rodriguez at Michigan in the first year. So far I'd say Urban Myer has a much better track record and body of work. Harbaugh hasn't earned Saban money or even Stoops money.

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BillyRay_rivals31072

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Pretty obvious Harbaugh is being paid that kind of money out of pure expectations based on his resume.
The guy took an awful Stanford program and in 4 years had them within a game from playing for a national title. They lost to a Oregon team that played in the national championship game that year.
Then he ends up playing for a Super Bowl within a few years of bolting to the NFL.

So Harbaugh is a damn good coach. Couple that with Michigan is pretty desperate to regain it's glory so they were willing to throw crazy money at a slam dunk hire like Harbaugh to come to Michigan.
 
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AbsoluteZer0

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So you all think that Harbaugh is a coach that's worth more than Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops who have proven track records in college football for lengths of time? I just want to understand this. I'm not saying you are wrong, history has yet to be written...but in the here and now he's worth Saban money to you. He would be a guy you'd pay more than the 2 guys I just mentioned?

Or are you saying it's speculation on possibilities than it is reality?
 
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barkingwater2000

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He is a former Michigan QB and has had much success in college and the NFL. How could they not pay him basically whatever he wanted? I predict that in another year or so they will be beating Ohio State on a regular basis.
 
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BillyRay_rivals31072

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AbsoluteZer0 said:
So you all think that Harbaugh is a coach that's worth more than Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops who have proven track records in college football for lengths of time? I just want to understand this. I'm not saying you are wrong, history has yet to be written...but in the here and now he's worth Saban money to you. He would be a guy you'd pay more than the 2 guys I just mentioned?

Or are you saying it's speculation on possibilities than it is reality?
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Well to understand why he is being paid that much, it would help to know the circumstances when he got hired. Did Michigan offer him a lower amount and he simply demanded to be paid what he currently is?? At that point, Michigan would be a fool not to pay that kind of money to get a coach who no doubt was the highest quality coach available to take over their program. I mean the alternative was Michigan paying much less for an assistant somewhere whom has ZERO head coaching experience to judge from. So what do you think is the smarter move?? Save money and roll the dice?? Or pony up the money and hire a coach that has been pretty well successful every place has coached??
 
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CTOkie

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AbsoluteZer0 said:
So you all think that Harbaugh is a coach that's worth more than Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops who have proven track records in college football for lengths of time? I just want to understand this. I'm not saying you are wrong, history has yet to be written...but in the here and now he's worth Saban money to you. He would be a guy you'd pay more than the 2 guys I just mentioned?

Or are you saying it's speculation on possibilities than it is reality?
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No one here thinks Harbaugh is a coach worth more than Meyer or Stoops.....Michigan does.
 
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AbsoluteZer0

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I see the potential I suppose. I guess I am just dumbstruck that everyone is so up on him when his body of work doesn't measure up to Meyer, Saban or Stoops. Of course Charlie Strong is on this list as well and was hyped about as much and we all see how that has worked out.
 
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Mister Moses

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Harbaugh was a hot commodity at that time. I imagine that was his market value. Strong on the other hand is a Texas is a we are the Jones'es fixation. Gilbert started off with a bigger salary than Lincoln Riley gets now. I would agree that Michigan was getting a better deal than Texas. He put them back on the map in one season. Charlie is still looking for the map. Texas is doing everything they can to make Chuck succeed at Texas. Texas was going to open the bank for Saban. Harbaugh was a successful coach at Stanford and San Francisco.
I hope Lincoln gets another bump in Salary soon. He shouldn't be making less than Charlie Strong.
 
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roygbell

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The first mistake is to think that reason is behind a coaching hire and how much he is paid.

In Michigan's case they are considered one of the elites of college football. In the recent years they have been down and down for quite a few years. They have consistently lost to their chief rival, tOSU, for a long time. I'm sure the fan base is upset, just as the OU fan base was upset prior to Bob's hire. There has to be lots of pressure to get back to elite status.

So, it shouldn't be a surprise that they reach out to a former player who has both great NFL and FBS coaching experience. Harbaugh is a very good coach and has as good of a coaching record as any prospective Michigan Head Coach prospect out there. He did a great job at both Stanford and the 49ers. I don't see how anyone could really knock Harbaugh's qualifications for the Michigan job.

The issue is only about the pay. My guess is that the only way he would take the Michigan job was to be paid what he wanted. Time will tell whether Harbaugh was a good hire. I would hire him as a college coach, but $7 million is a reach ... make that obscene.
 
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JConXtsy_rivals

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You have the opportunity to get a coach that has been to a Super Bowl and had coaching success everywhere and at every level. In order to draw him to your school, you have to provide him with NFL-like incentives.

Stoops is locked up with Oklahoma.
Meyer is locked up with Ohio State.
Saban is locked up with Alabama.

Money is no object to your school, and you need to show to your fan base and coaching staff that you are committed to success at any cost. You have just been dragged through the mud for more than a decade by taking chances on semi-proven coaches.
Do you pay that successful NFL coach $7M, or do you roll the dice yet again with a semi-proven coach at around $3M?
 
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OklaBama

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Michigan may have paid $8m. They wanted him that much. Actually I hope it works out for both of them. I would love to see Michigan kick the crap out of Ohio State for about four years running. That would be sweet.
 
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humblesooner

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He probably had opportunities (didn't say offers) in the NFL at the $7 mil range.
If Michigan wanted him, they were probably just asked to match an NFL-type range of salary.
 
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Well...I hear what you all have said and I guess it makes sense. I still think he's paid too much for what he's done but I can see why MI would have done it I suppose. Here is hoping we get the opportunity to whoop his *** in a playoff game.
 
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Soonersincefitty

Heisman
Oct 16, 2004
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AbsoluteZer0 said:
Well...I hear what you all have said and I guess it makes sense. I still think he's paid too much for what he's done but I can see why MI would have done it I suppose. Here is hoping we get the opportunity to whoop his *** in a playoff game.
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Speaking of which...guru, sage Jerry Palm has OU the #1 seed playing #4 Notre Dame in the CFP.
The winner plays the winner of Bama and Clemson for the trophy.
Ah...isn't that special this far out.
 
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BillyRay_rivals31072

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AbsoluteZer0 said:
Well...I hear what you all have said and I guess it makes sense. I still think he's paid too much for what he's done but I can see why MI would have done it I suppose. Here is hoping we get the opportunity to whoop his *** in a playoff game.
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I totally agree with what you are saying here. At this point, it's hard to justify that kind of money for one season in the books. But he took a pretty bad Michigan program and went 10-3 in his first season. And if not for that ridiculous fumbled punt against MSU to end the game, then Harbaugh would have been 11-2. That is pretty damn solid for a first season when you figure Michigan was 5-7 the year before. So up to this point, I think Michigan fans have reason to believe the money was well spent.

If Harbaugh ends up playing for national titles in years to come, then you will look back and see it as a great hire and well worth the money.
 
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Soonersincefitty

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BillyRay said:
I totally agree with what you are saying here. At this point, it's hard to justify that kind of money for one season in the books. But he took a pretty bad Michigan program and went 10-3 in his first season. And if not for that ridiculous fumbled punt against MSU to end the game, then Harbaugh would have been 11-2. That is pretty damn solid for a first season when you figure Michigan was 5-7 the year before. So up to this point, I think Michigan fans have reason to believe the money was well spent.

If Harbaugh ends up playing for national titles in years to come, then you will look back and see it as a great hire and well worth the money.
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Then again if he craps his Hilfigers he'll be branded an epic fail.
It goes both ways...
 
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OklaBama

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How many fans would have no problem paying Bob Stoops $7.5 million to stay at OU? It would probably surprise a lot of folks if there was a way to find out. Maybe we will one day. I won't be shocked.
 
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Soonersincefitty said:
Speaking of which...guru, sage Jerry Palm has OU the #1 seed playing #4 Notre Dame in the CFP.
The winner plays the winner of Bama and Clemson for the trophy.
Ah...isn't that special this far out.
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I did see this. I kind of hate that...it's almost like having Corso wear your headgear on game day. hehe
 
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WhyNotaSooner

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Soonersincefitty said:
I know, not necessarily superstitious, it's a kismet or karma thing.
Like the ones saying Titanic was unsinkable.
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Speaking of the Titatic, if it wasn't hyped and stated as unsinkable, would the sinking been that big of a deal? I say yes. As it was on it's maiden voyage. My point is that Jerry Palm isn't always correct, but he's pretty close w/ his predictions of the top teams and folks, this isn't the Sooners maiden voyage. I think the 2016 Sooners are going to finish their 2nd year in the playoffs of a 4 year playoff run. This team looking forward is getting better & better talent. Primarily due to better & better Coaches doing better & better recruiting.
 
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Soonersincefitty

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WhyNotaSooner said:
Speaking of the Titatic, if it wasn't hyped and stated as unsinkable, would the sinking been that big of a deal? I say yes. As it was on it's maiden voyage. My point is that Jerry Palm isn't always correct, but he's pretty close w/ his predictions of the top teams and folks, this isn't the Sooners maiden voyage. I think the 2016 Sooners are going to finish their 2nd year in the playoffs of a 4 year playoff run. This team looking forward is getting better & better talent. Primarily due to better & better Coaches doing better & better recruiting.
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