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[Loopafied_352]

From 1 - 10, who are/were the greatest coaches at OU. These are Berry Tramels pick's! Shake them up and give your top 10.
1. Gasso
2. Switzer
3. Robertson
4. Wilkinson
5. Kindler
6. Tubbs
7. Stoops
8. Williams
9. Owen
10. Coale

 

[Plainosooner_rivals54053]

Bud's fourth? You lost ALL credibility. He went a decade without losing a conference game. Tubbs ahead of Stoops? Bud put OU on the map. Without Bud there is no Barry, Bob, Williams or anybody else on the list.

 

[Loopafied_352]

Bud's fourth? You lost ALL credibility. He went a decade without losing a conference game. Tubbs ahead of Stoops? Bud put OU on the map. Without Bud there is no Barry, Bob, Williams or anybody else on the list.

Where would you put Bud?...I based my picks strictly on what I read today. Plus I jacked the list from Berry Tramel...lol Doesn't matter what you think about my credibility.

 

[Loopafied_352]

I completely understand the significance of Bud.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

My man I'd sell my soul for another Bud Wilkinson run.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

The king is right up there also.

 

[Loopafied_352]

This was actually Berry Tramel's list. I just jacked it for some chatter. Tramel is a Hack.

 

[SoonerSA]

My man I'd sell my soul for another Bud Wilkinson run.

Without Bud and his run no one would know or care about OU. He set the table for OUr success over the past 60 years. Patti's success is unquestionably feeding OUr successful history in sports. So have our men and women's gymnastics team over the past ten years.

 

[CTOkie]

Without Bud and his run no one would know or care about OU. He set the table for OUr success over the past 60 years. Patti's success is unquestionably feeding OUr successful history in sports. So have our men and women's gymnastics team over the past ten years.

Best entry in this thread

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

I don't know how he could measured today but Ryan Hybl is quietly putting OU Men's golf on the map. He is a hell of a recruiter and knows how to coach these guys. He knew OU could be good when he took over the program but needed the best of high school golfers. His first score was Abraham Ancer. He has been steady building from Ancer. OU never lost the #1 rankin g this year.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Without Bud and his run no one would know or care about OU. He set the table for OUr success over the past 60 years. Patti's success is unquestionably feeding OUr successful history in sports. So have our men and women's gymnastics team over the past ten years.

No doubt about it brother. Agree wholeheartedly.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Without Bud and his run no one would know or care about OU. He set the table for OUr success over the past 60 years. Patti's success is unquestionably feeding OUr successful history in sports. So have our men and women's gymnastics team over the past ten years.

To add to my last post, the history of Bud which most youngsters can't understand. Welp, Plaino explained it above. Bud owned cfb during his watch, 2 decades. Definitely worth researching.

 

[OklaBama]

To add to my last post, the history of Bud which most youngsters can't understand. Welp, Plaino explained it above. Bud owned cfb during his watch, 2 decades. Definitely worth researching.

Hard to believe any Sooner not appreciating what Bud Wilkinson achieved at OU regardless of their age.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Hard to believe any Sooner not appreciating what Bud Wilkinson achieved at OU regardless of their age.

Truth.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Bear Bryant on Bud.

Wilkinson and Bryant had been friends for years, though they coached against each other only twice. In the 1951 Orange Bowl, Bryant's Kentucky Wildcats upset Oklahoma, which already had been named national champion, 13-7.

"And Bud Wilkinson taught me something that day," Bryant would write in his autobiography. "He showed me the class I wish I had. He came into our dressing room afterward and shook hands with me and as many of the players as he could reach. I had never done that before, or seen it done. But I've done it since."

 

[CTOkie]

Hard to believe any Sooner not appreciating what Bud Wilkinson achieved at OU regardless of their age.

History doesn't seem to be much observed or appreciated anymore. Seems like people, especially young people think if something did not happen in THEIR lifetimes, it didn't happen.
Wilkinson is clearly the cornerstone to OU's sports legacy.

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

History doesn't seem to be much observed or appreciated anymore. Seems like people, especially young people think if something did not happen in THEIR lifetimes, it didn't happen.
Wilkinson is clearly the cornerstone to OU's sports legacy.

There is a permanent wrinkle in society today. A vast majority of our youth are not readers, especially books in print. If they don't see it on TV then they will never know about it. If an athlete doesn't have gold chains he will not attract attention. There are no more naturally acquired/earned "legends". They are all man-made. Bud is far more a legend in Oklahoma than other place in the country unless you actually lived while he was coaching. History fades as do legends.

 

[tansoonerfan]

Legends are not concerned with serving an agenda or public perception. Their goals and aspirations are almost always higher as to what they aspire to achieve. Wins & losses are the most basic measurement of success, but coaches like Bud Wilkinson vowed to make an eternal impact. I believe it all begins with who you serve. Do you serve people & public opinion or Jesus Christ? The latter is a subject many people tend to avoid b/c it is considered insensitive to some who do not believe the same. Leaders are called to a higher standard and change the world by being a reflection of who they serve. In that way, true success can be measured by the fruit produced in one’s life. This is not as attractive to some but deserves the utmost respect b/c these people lived outside themselves. Bud is on a short list of those that did just that.

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

Legends are not concerned with serving an agenda or public perception. Their goals and aspirations are almost always higher as to what they aspire to achieve. Wins & losses are the most basic measurement of success, but coaches like Bud Wilkinson vowed to make an eternal impact. I believe it all begins with who you serve. Do you serve people & public opinion or Jesus Christ? The latter is a subject many people tend to avoid b/c it is considered insensitive to some who do not believe the same. Leaders are called to a higher standard and change the world by being a reflection of who they serve. In that way, true success can be measured by the fruit produced in one’s life. This is not as attractive to some but deserves the utmost respect b/c these people lived outside themselves. Bud is on a short list of those that did just that.

What? You have a narrow view of "legends" then. What about Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler or OJ Simpson or Attila the Hun? What about George Patton? Legends are not specific to good deeds. But then again, I am not a religious man. You speak as if you speak for all legends. Your first sentence can be proven wrong on many levels. Mickey Mantle?

 

[CTOkie]

I think when "legends" are referred to on this message board, it's of men and women who are not or were not evil. But certainly, the term has a dual meaning as far as good and bad are concerned.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

I think when "legends" are referred to on this message board, it's of men and women who are not or were not evil. But certainly, the term has a dual meaning as far as good and bad are concerned.

Revered legends.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

There is a permanent wrinkle in society today. A vast majority of our youth are not readers, especially books in print. If they don't see it on TV then they will never know about it. If an athlete doesn't have gold chains he will not attract attention. There are no more naturally acquired/earned "legends". They are all man-made. Bud is far more a legend in Oklahoma than other place in the country unless you actually lived while he was coaching. History fades as do legends.

Most folks today can't remember yesterday.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Legends are not concerned with serving an agenda or public perception. Their goals and aspirations are almost always higher as to what they aspire to achieve. Wins & losses are the most basic measurement of success, but coaches like Bud Wilkinson vowed to make an eternal impact. I believe it all begins with who you serve. Do you serve people & public opinion or Jesus Christ? The latter is a subject many people tend to avoid b/c it is considered insensitive to some who do not believe the same. Leaders are called to a higher standard and change the world by being a reflection of who they serve. In that way, true success can be measured by the fruit produced in one’s life. This is not as attractive to some but deserves the utmost respect b/c these people lived outside themselves. Bud is on a short list of those that did just that.

Brother I'm far from being a religious man but I do believe religion is most definitely necessary for our society to function properly imo. Good post my man.

 

[Scottsdale.Sooner]

I think when "legends" are referred to on this message board, it's of men and women who are not or were not evil. But certainly, the term has a dual meaning as far as good and bad are concerned.

How about Switzer? He is arguably a bigger legend than Bud. What part do you think Jesus played in his journey? Is there any doubt that Switzer had an agenda and sought public attention?

 

[tansoonerfan]

What? You have a narrow view of "legends" then. What about Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler or OJ Simpson or Attila the Hun? What about George Patton? Legends are not specific to good deeds. But then again, I am not a religious man. You speak as if you speak for all legends. Your first sentence can be proven wrong on many levels. Mickey Mantle?

I should have said “my definition of a legend”.

 

[tansoonerfan]

What? You have a narrow view of "legends" then. What about Charles Manson or Adolph Hitler or OJ Simpson or Attila the Hun? What about George Patton? Legends are not specific to good deeds. But then again, I am not a religious man. You speak as if you speak for all legends. Your first sentence can be proven wrong on many levels. Mickey Mantle?

I guess I see legend as a positive term. To describe famous evil people, I would use the term “infamous”.

 

[CTOkie]

How about Switzer? He is arguably a bigger legend than Bud. What part do you think Jesus played in his journey? Is there any doubt that Switzer had an agenda and sought public attention?

I do not regard Switzer a bigger legend than Wilkinson despite his having a more winning record over Wilkinson.
Bud Wilkinson's exit was not riddled with scandals and NCAA penalties, even though OU was served a few probations during his time.
Wilkinson, a Ph.D recipient, was adamant about his players' education from the very beginning. Up until Venables' hiring, I had not heard this from an OU coach since Wilkinson.
He became a driving force in the making of Oklahoma's new image in the era following the Dust Bowl years, The Depression and WWII. His impact on OU football and the state of Oklahoma, like Will Rogers, cannot be measured.
I'm not diminishing Switzer's record when comparing him to any coach. Barry's time at OU put OU on a level that exceeded Wilkinson's but there were, in my opinion, too many rumors and scandals that came along with it.
I personally told Switzer at a spring drill in the early 1980's, " thanks for the great memories"....he winked at me and gave me a thumbs up sign.

 

[Senior Sooner]

I guess I see legend as a positive term. To describe famous evil people, I would use the term “infamous”.

Or Notorious...

 

[CTOkie]

Or Notorious...

To date, I personally don’t recall any evil or corrupt person being labeled as “legendary”.

 

[LVPack]

A vast majority of our youth are not readers, especially books in print. If they don't see it on TV then they will never know about it.

Actually, young people don't watch much television anymore. Cyberwise's Research shows only 16% of people aged 13–19 years old are watching TV and are going to continue doing so. It won't be too long before TV audiences are mostly old people.

 

[WP76]

Actually, young people don't watch much television anymore. Cyberwise's Research shows only 16% of people aged 13–19 years old are watching TV and are going to continue doing so. It won't be too long before TV audiences are mostly old people.

As a high school teacher, my observations agree with yours. Most kids are addicted to their phones and if something requires more than a 20 second attention span, they're unprepared to deal with it. They're not watching television but if it's Instagram, Snapchat, a. text, or TikTok (an utter sewer IMO) they're not going to miss it. BTW Facebook is for old people so I haven't seen it as a similar focal point of their attention.

 

[Loopafied_352]

As a high school teacher, my observations agree with yours. Most kids are addicted to their phones and if something requires more than a 20 second attention span, they're unprepared to deal with it. They're not watching television but if it's Instagram, Snapchat, a. text, or TikTok (an utter sewer IMO) they're not going to miss it. BTW Facebook is for old people so I haven't seen it as a similar focal point of their attention.

Also, as a high school teacher, students are dependent on their devices to tell time. Less than half can tell time with a clock that is not electronic.

 

[CTOkie]

Also, as a high school teacher, students are dependent on their devices to tell time. Less than half can tell time with a clock that is not electronic.

Good grief!
And I have seen interviews where young people are asking when we will put a man on the sun, or answering that Asia is the largest CITY in the world.
Can you tell me what the hell they're teaching in school these days???
I foresee an American population that will be dumbed down to a point where they can be easily controlled and sold on politicians who are even worse than the current ones.

 

[OUSOONER67]

Part of the problem I see with Sports Fans today is the fact they don't care what you did last year, the year before, 10, 20, 30 yrs ago or more. Tradition means nothing to them and that goes for not only fans of a particular school but mostly for fans of opposing schools. There is very little Respect given to Programs these days that were making their bones building a Program over decades way before most of these fans were born and most of these young people today are not really fans of any particular School or NFL team, they wait on who wins a Title and then run out to buy the Teams Gear after the fact, lather, rinse, repeat every year. Instant fans of a Championship
Team they have never supported in their lives. This is a trend I saw that started back in the early 90's, some would call them Bandwagon Fans. They disregard History and Tradition and will say for example, "yeah (insert any School name here) they won a lot of titles years ago, but nobody remembers or cares, what has your School won lately?" You will usually hear this from fans of Programs that have just found success or most times have never won anything of importance.

 

[LAY THE WOODY]

Good grief!
And I have seen interviews where young people are asking when we will put a man on the sun, or answering that Asia is the largest CITY in the world.
Can you tell me what the hell they're teaching in school these days???
I foresee an American population that will be dumbed down to a point where they can be easily controlled and sold on politicians who are even worse than the current ones.

Our population getting dumber by the day exponentially with our current potus and his crusty scab cohorts.

 

[CTOkie]

Our population getting dumber by the day exponentially with our current potus and his crusty scab cohorts.

Agree, but the process as I see it, started long before President Bubble Boy came along.

 

[Senior Sooner]

EMCEE @ Miss America Pageant...What is the Capitol of Texas?

Contestant? 'T'?

 

[Plainosooner_rivals54053]

Good grief!
And I have seen interviews where young people are asking when we will put a man on the sun, or answering that Asia is the largest CITY in the world.
Can you tell me what the hell they're teaching in school these days???
I foresee an American population that will be dumbed down to a point where they can be easily controlled and sold on politicians who are even worse than the current ones.

They're teaching liberal indoctrination.

 

[iasooner2000]

And alphabet scatology to kindergarteners

 

[CTOkie]

They're teaching liberal indoctrination.

President Kennedy must be rolling over in his grave at what his party has become.....how it's been poisoned by the WOKE philosophy.
The Democratic Party hardly represents a "progressive" entity. Even Bill Maher, a liberal, has been at odds with how the Dems have abandoned their "what's good for our country" mission with so much silly ********.
I'm not enamored by what either party offers anymore, but the Democratic Party is clearly at the bottom of the barrel for me. In their hatred for Trump, they have abandoned sanity and meaningful, intelligent policies.
2024 will be, for me, a high water mark in this country's freefall. The media (including Fox News), politicians and the downward spiral of our educational system has served to divide us in every way possible and to distract us from that which matters most....which in turn, allows us to be controlled.