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shutzhund

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for all with eyes to see. "It's all about the players making the plays". We may want to blame locker room dissension, inattention, lack of speed and offensive coordinators for our problem. The truth is that it is not whether you decide to pass, run off tackle or call a time out. Tough minded, whole hearted commitment is what wins games.

It comes down to recruiting good athletes who put aside fear and petty distractions. Then they execute their assignments and we win close games. Recruiting is a tough business and it's not all about forty times.

We had the physical talent to have won six or seven games but I'm not sure enough character. A few bad apples, etc., etc. It only takes a few half hearted efforts to break down a good play.

Any thoughts?
 
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After seeing all of the points and plays that we left on the field this year, I have to agree to a large extent. I know that coaching could have been better but the plays were there to be made.

To me, this quote by Patrick illustrated the essence of a player like Randall Cobb (and I am sure there were many more at UK before him). Not necessarily the fastest, strongest, tallest...etc. Just went out, wanted it more, and made plays.

If we had more players like that, we would be wondering if there were hotel rooms in Fla during the holiday season.
 
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shutzhund said:
for all with eyes to see. "It's all about the players making the plays". We may want to blame locker room dissension, inattention, lack of speed and offensive coordinators for our problem. The truth is that it is not whether you decide to pass, run off tackle or call a time out. Tough minded, whole hearted commitment is what wins games.

It comes down to recruiting good athletes who put aside fear and petty distractions. Then they execute their assignments and we win close games. Recruiting is a tough business and it's not all about forty times.

We had the physical talent to have won six or seven games but I'm not sure enough character. A few bad apples, etc., etc. It only takes a few half hearted efforts to break down a good play.

Any thoughts?
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Your assessment is spot on!!!!
 
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Obviously, Stoops & Dawson didn't always see eye to eye. Stoops realizes that he needs an experienced guy whom he knows & can trust.

Obviously, Stoops also felt like UK needed a new mentor for the WR's. And likely, he wants a guy who is a better known recruiter. Probably a better recruiting OC as well.

However, with said, I do agree with Towles. IMHO... The biggest problem was the lack of execution and that caused the coaching staff to look bad, when in fact, the coaches often had the players in a position to succeed. You often don't see that at first glance, but when you watch a replay or several replays, you gain a whole new prospective on the situation.

Again, IMHO... The only way to fix poor execution is to recruit a few more top 15-25 classes, build more quality depth at every position & therefore increase the competition level at every position. An older roster will help tremendously too. Those things will make UK look better, more so than changing coaches will.
 
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shutzhund said:
for all with eyes to see. "It's all about the players making the plays". We may want to blame locker room dissension, inattention, lack of speed and offensive coordinators for our problem. The truth is that it is not whether you decide to pass, run off tackle or call a time out. Tough minded, whole hearted commitment is what wins games.

It comes down to recruiting good athletes who put aside fear and petty distractions. Then they execute their assignments and we win close games. Recruiting is a tough business and it's not all about forty times.

We had the physical talent to have won six or seven games but I'm not sure enough character. A few bad apples, etc., etc. It only takes a few half hearted efforts to break down a good play.

Any thoughts?
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Pretty spot on, IMHO.
 
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JasonRDunn said:
Not necessarily the fastest, strongest, tallest...etc. Just went out, wanted it more, and made plays.

If we had more players like that, we would be wondering if there were hotel rooms in Fla during the holiday season.
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Yep. A high football IQ, a lot of heart & never letting up will win a lot of games! That is what this team needs to learn. I'd invite Cobb & Woodyard (and others) to speak to the team about that very subject.
 
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shutzhund said:
for all with eyes to see. "It's all about the players making the plays". We may want to blame locker room dissension, inattention, lack of speed and offensive coordinators for our problem. The truth is that it is not whether you decide to pass, run off tackle or call a time out. Tough minded, whole hearted commitment is what wins games.

It comes down to recruiting good athletes who put aside fear and petty distractions. Then they execute their assignments and we win close games. Recruiting is a tough business and it's not all about forty times.

We had the physical talent to have won six or seven games but I'm not sure enough character. A few bad apples, etc., etc. It only takes a few half hearted efforts to break down a good play.

Any thoughts?
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Coach cal is good at handling ego's/mentality of his players for the most part!
This staff has a long way to go in that department. Start's with discipline from the top down! But there is more to it than just that.
But there is where it start's.. Little attitude change can do wonder's. Look at the 2014 basketball team.
Very little change went a long way.

This football team had more talent then what was displayed,but like the basketball team in 2014 they looked bad!
You get that corrected and things will get interesting next year. If you don't then it will be more of the same..
I like to be positive so i think we could do better than most expect next year!
 
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Towles contributed to a lot of the locker room stuff too. He was Dawson's pet and it was pretty obvious. That is why he made those comments about Dawson yesterday..He is full of sour grapes..He won't have any chance of getting to the nfl if he cannot be more accurate than he was here. Between decision making and play making Towles and Dawson left a lot to be desired. Good riddance to both of them.
 
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Towles contributed to a lot of the locker room stuff too. He was Dawson's pet and it was pretty obvious. That is why he made those comments about Dawson yesterday..He is full of sour grapes..He won't have any chance of getting to the nfl if he cannot be more accurate than he was here. Between decision making and play making Towles and Dawson left a lot to be desired. Good riddance to both of them.
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Good luck to both of them, they were Wildcats and I am sure neither one wanted it to turn out like this. And I think Towles will make it to the NFL, a project now but a lot of potential.
 
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I don't think that he would deny that.
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Not only wouldn't he deny it, I think he was including himself in that statement. Patrick's a good kid and I hope he figures it all out because his potential is still there to be really good.
 
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Patrick is a class act and I don't think he would deny he made many bad throws. I also think he did his best on each throw. I'm not sure every player did their best. It only takes one or two, to give a half hearted effort, to infect a team of young players.

It's one thing to fail because of your ability. But to fail because you won't make the effort? That is a player no one wants to be around.

There's a lot to like in the saying "when the going gets tough, the tough get going". Bear Bryant, maybe?

To leave it all on the field is 100% mental.
 
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Towels made as many bad plays as anyone on the team He is the only transfer that's quit on his teammates Seems to be all about himself he is gone he needs to go and keep his opinions to himself
 
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Everybody says Towles is a good kid and he might be but I have heard him say some pretty darn questionable remarks about Neal Brown last year and now can't seem to stop stirring the pot after leaving this year. I reserve judgement on how good of a kid he is. Every time I start thinking really well of him he says something that didn't need be said and shouldn't have been said.
 
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billy keith said:
Towels made as many bad plays as anyone on the team He is the only transfer that's quit on his teammates Seems to be all about himself he is gone he needs to go and keep his opinions to himself
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I agree he should be quiet and move on but PT is a very smart kid and unlike most of us, he knows exactly what went on behind the scene. He still cares greatly about the program and the players. That makes it real hard to sit back and bite his lip when he knows that story being told is not the accurate story.

He did not quit on his team. He got his shot and now that is over. He has a slight chance of playing on Sundays if he can play well at BC. He has next to no chance if he sits on the bench at UK. Stoops said that himself.
 
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Must not of had anyone else that felt the same as he did , NFL my *** He will do better at BC
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I hope that Pat does go to the NFL but he has a lot of work to do if he's going to get there. The Boston College staff have a lot of work on their hands to get him to that point. Doesn't matter if you have ideal size and arm strength if you can't read the field and make the right progressions.
 
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I believe what a player, who stayed loyal to UK and only moved on because it was all that made sense, over all internet doubters. They have their right to voice doubts about his motives because the internet must obsessively search for a grassy knoll. However, he has spent four years on the field, in the locker room, with the coaches and during meetings.

Sounds like a real insider to me.
 
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No doubt in my mind this team under performed. They could have, should have done better. Lots of blame to go around, but I'm pretty sure some of it, just some, lands at his feet. You wanna quit. Fine. Do it. The more he continues to talk the less I hear.
 
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What I find ironic and that no one has mentioned yet, at least I haven't seen, is that Mr. Towles, while putting it out there...forgot to mention that he had to have his Spring 2016 transfer application into BC by November 1, 2015...undergraduate and graduate seems to be a little murkier. If correct, that would indicate his application was in after the TN game... I point it out because I find it intriguing that he seems to be potentially throwing people under the bus, but yet it appears his decision to transfer was made halfway through the season.
 
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shutzhund said:
I believe what a player, who stayed loyal to UK and only moved on because it was all that made sense, over all internet doubters. They have their right to voice doubts about his motives because the internet must obsessively search for a grassy knoll. However, he has spent four years on the field, in the locker room, with the coaches and during meetings.

Sounds like a real insider to me.
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billy keith said:
Towels sounds like a guy that lost his job and cried and quit now stop putting blame on everyone except himself Just be quite and leave
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You'd be a great asset in any locker room.
 
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99firerock said:
What I find ironic and that no one has mentioned yet, at least I haven't seen, is that Mr. Towles, while putting it out there...forgot to mention that he had to have his Spring 2016 transfer application into BC by November 1, 2015...undergraduate and graduate seems to be a little murkier. If correct, that would indicate his application was in after the TN game... I point it out because I find it intriguing that he seems to be potentially throwing people under the bus, but yet it appears his decision to transfer was made halfway through the season.
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Completely ignorant post. A player cant talk to any school until being released to do so. According to UK he asked for a release after Louisville.
 
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So, you are saying that he did not have to adhere to the application deadline standards set forth by BC?
 
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shutzhund said:
Check on that with the UL board and get back to us. Well, on second thought don't get back to us.
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Since yourself and gsayers seem to know it all...

Graduate Exception
The graduate exception is a version of the one-time transfer exception. It is for student-athletes who cannot use the normal one-time transfer exception because they play one of the sports that are not permitted to use the exception.

  • The student-athlete must have graduated with at least a bachelor’s degree;
  • The student-athlete meets the other requirements of the one-time transfer exception;
  • The student-athlete must have at least one season of competition left; and
  • The student-athlete’s previous school did not renew his or her athletic scholarship or offer an athletic scholarship for the following academic year.
The requirement that the scholarship be cancelled or not renewed is generally not an issue. The scholarship does not need to be cancelled before the transfer or be the reason for the transfer. Because the one-time transfer exception requires you to get a release, what will happen with your scholarship is generally just an administrative detail.

The entire educational information...

And again...now I remember why way back in the day I didn't join these message boards...facts and a thought process be damned. How neanderthal and childish to even insinuate the UL connection...been on this board (CatsPause) for years and have always generally enjoying watching people such as yourself and gsayers stick their foots in their mouths and you continue to provide pleasure this evening. Thanks!
 
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