Last night wasn’t Tre’s best all around game. He played great D, grabbed rebounds and brought fight. We lose by 35 without him BUT seemed sped up running the O and his shooting struggles continue to stick out. It’s a real issue at this point. I absolutely LOVE Tre but how in the world does he go to the NBA????
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Last night was the first time I questioned whether or not he could go to the NBA. I mean let’s be clear, it seems anybody half way decent can declare to go to the NBA in today’s game but this game was the first time I thought to myself “wow he dropped right out the first round.” I loo forward to him turning it around
Yep one game tells us he’s not nba ready........
I do not think the poster is saying that. I can see what the original poster is saying. Tre's inability to make jump shots and shots from distance are a big concern.
That was/has been an issue for him. He isn’t near the offensive player that Tyus was/is but the flip side of it is Tyus isn’t near the defensive player Tre is
Give me Treyus Jones and I’ll give you a championship.
Not sure who is basing it off one game?? But in reality- one game can sway opinions that count. With Zion out we needed a PG to create, take over and hit the shots UNC dared him to take. Tre had an opportunity last night, I’m not sure he took advantage. Knowing Tre and the Jones make up I’m sure he will more then make up for it moving ahead.
I do not know many elite defensive point guards who struggled to shoot in college who were first round NBA draft picks after their freshman year. If that was the case WOJO would not have played 4 years at Duke.
Tre is a really good player and an elite defensive player, but NBA ready? I guess that is not for us to decide.
It’d be great to have some experience come back. Do I think tre is nba ready? Not yet, does my opinion matter? Nope lol
Well he might go pro but his offense is very lacking and has been all year
Yea some of his shots weren't even close last night. Even his mid-range game, which is usually good, wasn't there.......i think everyone was pressing a little last night though. All the build-up and excitement of these freshman's first UNCheat game and then the best player in the country, as well as their good friend, goes out in the first 30 seconds......I'm gonna give him a little bit of a pass last night. I agree he is not ready for the league, but who is honestly these days. A handful a year really maybe?
I couldn’t give two craps about if he’s nba ready or not. All I care about is him playing for Duke and getting us #6. This board is unreal after a loss.
Your taking things totally wrong QC
It was a simple observation/talking point. I’d suggest going back to bed and trying a new start to this glorious day.
It was a simple observation/talking point. I’d suggest going back to bed and trying a new start to this glorious day.
Agree, just relax. Nobody is slamming Tre or saying he is a bad basketball player. The post simply asks if he is NBA ready, that is all.
Tre did not have a good game, sure he played good D for parts of the game but he also got beat off the bounce a couple times that really hurt us. Last night showed some glaring weaknesses on offense. Is he ready for the NBA.....no, but that does that mean his potential is not there, no.
He got sped up last night by UNC's tempo and you could see it even on his drives that he threw up some clunkers, the game was fast and if you think the NBA is any different you are crazy, he needs to dictate the tempo and that will come with time. We will see but Zion opens up a lot for this team and also creates opportunities for Tre that where not there last night with him out.
His shot was a glaring issue last night and it may have just been a bad night, but it did not look good. He was not in control and credit UNC for that, but I don't think it was all UNC, I think he has some issues and he is not ready for the NBA at this point, but that might not matter.
He got sped up last night by UNC's tempo and you could see it even on his drives that he threw up some clunkers, the game was fast and if you think the NBA is any different you are crazy, he needs to dictate the tempo and that will come with time. We will see but Zion opens up a lot for this team and also creates opportunities for Tre that where not there last night with him out.
His shot was a glaring issue last night and it may have just been a bad night, but it did not look good. He was not in control and credit UNC for that, but I don't think it was all UNC, I think he has some issues and he is not ready for the NBA at this point, but that might not matter.
Reddish’s draft stock will rise with Zion our for any extended period of time. I think Tre is the opposite. As others have stated, elite defensive PG without elite athleticism and with a questionable offensive game are not 1st rounders. His questionable offense can be more easily hidden with the other big 3 carrying the load and Tre making good decisions. Now he will be relied on to create offense himself, not sure he is completely capable of that at a level of a 1st rounder yet. Yet, he could adjust mentally without Zion on Saturday and shut me the hell up too.
Think what a solid team you guys will have if Tre returns for his soph year. Not a lot of flash, maybe, but a real contender.
When he was hurt the mantra was that he was the heart of the team etc...dont dispute that but last night we needed him to show it. But 1-11 shooting, 4 asst and zero FT attempts isnt leading. We needed to change what we were doing and it starts at PG. We didnt drive the ball enough, get the ball inside or make UNC move on defense. Maybe positionless basketball works when you have all your pllayers - it certainly does not when your key ones go down. Recruiting wise we need to have 2 PG's capable of scoring on the team at all times...Tre is a great defender but not a scorer or one on one creator....our best PG's have been both - Jwill, Hurly, Duhon, Cook...would love to see more of those on our roster.
I feel like he's been a step slow these last few games, just seems off. He is not much of a scorer, we've known that all season. He doesn't shoot very well and doesn't do well with dribble penetration and finishing layups. That said, he's still the guy who makes the offense run when we are at full strength. His defense is superb and when he really turns it on he can put the clamps down on any opposing point guard.
Tre and Coby did good jobs against each other. Enjoyable matchup, if downright ugly at times. Hard fought, and that's great for fans to watch.
I noticed that especially on the defensive end. He's been getting beat pretty consistently the last few games.
I've been roundly assured that it is, in fact, totally unimportant that Tre can't make 3s.
Everyone was flustered last night, including Tre. We know he's not a great shooter, and last night he was 'forced' to try to be more of a scorer than he is capable of at this time...or at least in that game. It's a learning experience, and Tre will benefit from it. As far as ready for the NBA...there are probably only a few freshmen in the country that are...but if the opportunity presents itself, it's not going to stop players from going.
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All Tre has to do is post a double double and all the "he's not NBA ready" or he can’t shoot or lead this team to #6 will go away. He’ll have a few key steals, his assist:turnover will still remain above average in the next few games and the board will be back to talking #6 and Hoping Tre don’t bolt to NBA cause scouts see him as a first rounder. GO DUKE!
No, it won't. He's a guard that can't do the single most important thing that NBA teams value in guards: Make perimeter jumpers. He is a poor shooter from the college line, and he's all but unguarded from 3 by our opponents at this time. That won't get better by adding 2-3 feet to the shooting distance. He's not a great assist man in the half court (he's good, not elite), though that is less important in NBA offenses. His defense won't be as effective vs NBA caliber players. Coby White is more on par with the size and athleticism of NBA PGS, and Tre was pretty good vs Coby. Great vs Woods, which means nothing. It isn't outside the realm of possibility that Tre's shooting gives some NBA gms pause late in the first round. I'm not saying it will, but to dismiss these concerns out of hand is specious.
Tre's a very good college point guard,he plays stellar defence,but at this point,he's not the stone cold killer his brother was,can he become that guy? remains to be seen.I know we all hope he can.
Tre is gone if he knows he's a 1st rounder. He'll just have to get better shooting wise at the next level. A lot of players have done that. OFC
That "IF" is a bigger "if" than many folks realize. Yes, if he gets a first round guarantee, he'll go and improve his shooting in the NBA. There are serious questions as to whether or not he'll definitely get a first round guarantee. That shooting is a big question.
@ PatrickYates I respect your opinion. However I think Tre is an elite PG on the college level, I bet to you many D1 college programs (well not unc cause Roy dont want 'em) would LOVE to have him running the show. He will win some games for us this yr as well. Most players get better from yr 1 to yr 2 rather that’s happens in college or once they make that jump to the NBA. Every year the really good players improve from yr to yr.. I'm in the opinion that Tre improves his shot and will make some NBA team thankful they got him. I dont think he'll be a starter day one but he will help a team win. With that said The only reason i'd like him to stay another yr is all selfish reasons. I'd love for his growth to continue at DUKE next yr.
34 of the top 50 scorer in CBB D1 are PG's....it has to be a position that gets you points. All world defense is great but with ball in hand scoring has to be an option. It opens other spaces and makes it harder to defend any team. Running the team means being able to get a key bucket when needed too.
@denverexpat you mean like Rondo? Who is not known for his shooting but more for his playmainkg/defense and his overall Hgh Basketball IQ BTW won a NBA championship as well. Im not saying Tre dont have faults, but what i am saying that there are teams in the NBA that need or want that high BB IQ who can play some D, run an offense . Tre will be fine, he's a hell of a player and will only get better.
Tre is in a slump right now. In three of the last five games, he has shooting stats of 4-for-14, 2-for-10 and 1-for-11. He's looked for of blah, if you ask me. Tyus had a rough patch/funk in January of 2015. It's not all that uncommon. Besides his low outside shooting percentages, there is little else I worry about with him. He's a tough kid....he's going to snap out of it.
Frankly i dont really care what his NBA career or draft position looks like...i want Duke to be successful this year and win a NC. And for me, that means a PG who can score as well as play D and be a floor general - think Jwill, Hurley, Duhon etc.....if we had a 3pt specialist to compliment Tre it would help but we dont...I think PG scoring is an achilles heel for us.