Troy playing South Alabama on ESPNU

buckkiller

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I'll tell you what I'm starting to buy into him some. 6-1 is 6-1. IMO for where he is coaching he is taking care of buisness. Like to see couple more years of body of work but becoming sold on his coaching abilities.
 
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Chuckinden

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I'll tell you what I'm starting to buy into him some. 6-1 is 6-1. IMO for where he is coaching he is taking care of buisness. Like to see couple more years of body of work but becoming sold on his coaching abilities.
He won't be there in a couple years.
 

docholiday51

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Whenever we are in the market for a new head coach I hope the timing is such that Brown is a possibility based on what we have seen so far.I always thought he was suited to be a head coach more than an OC,the question is does he have what it takes to succeed at the d-1 level,he will get his chance there one day
 
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tntuk

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Whenever we are in the market for a new head coach I hope the timing is such that Brown is a possibility based on what we have seen so far.I always thought he was suited to be a head coach more than an OC,the question is does he have what it takes to succeed at the d-1 level,he will get his chance there one day
Troy is D-1
 

tntuk

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Right,my bad ,P-5 then
I hear you though - Troy did give Clemson fits, but I'd love to see Brown take a P5 school and turn them around before coming here (hopefully someday).

We'll see what happens - maybe UK offers him if Stoops doesn't work out. At least he would have had HC experience before taking the reigns here - which is more experience than Joker and Stoops has as HCs before getting UK job.
 

WildCard

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Neal Brown is a future star P5 head coach. He took over a down Troy program and in his second year has them at 6-1 with the only blemish a 6 point loss @ Clemson.
Impressive, very impressive. At least so far. Continue this "winning trend" another year or two and he will almost certainly be moving on up. Every year there seems to be 2 or 3 guys that really establish themselves as "future P5 stars" by doing well at "smaller" programs. But I think you want to see enough to make sure you are not witnessing a lightening in a bottle season.

With all due respect to CMS, the SEC (and really just about all P5 jobs) are pretty tough spots for HCs on training wheels. Theer are always exceptions but if I were an AD making a hire I think I would look very strongly at successful HCs at smaller schools before looking at coordinators at larger schools. Not the point here but I will never understand the Joker CIW thing. If Joker was going to move on, let him. If he was "successful" somewhere else you could always bring him back as HC at a later date if you wanted to. JMO.

Peace
 

DACats86

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A couple of questions about Neal - do you think Purdue may be interested? If Brohm moves, would he look at WKU or would that be a lateral move, at best? Where are his best options to move to at the end of this year?

I really like Neal and would really like to see him be HC at UK some day. But, I'm not sure I want to see him move from two years as Troy's HC to a HC at arguably the toughest job in the SEC. I would want a little more seasoning, at perhaps a school like Purdue.
 

Mr Schwump

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A couple of questions about Neal - do you think Purdue may be interested? If Brohm moves, would he look at WKU or would that be a lateral move, at best? Where are his best options to move to at the end of this year?

I really like Neal and would really like to see him be HC at UK some day. But, I'm not sure I want to see him move from two years as Troy's HC to a HC at arguably the toughest job in the SEC. I would want a little more seasoning, at perhaps a school like Purdue.

I see Purdue as a dead end job...maybe UK too, we'll see. OSU, Michigan, Iowa, Mich St, Wisc, maybe State Penn, Mich St, Neb...all will be at some level of good, better, best. Brown should be able to do better without having to face so many good teams.
 

bthaunert

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Kingsberry is on the hot seat?
Yes he is. He's 22-22/11-19 in year 4....the seat is pretty warm there for him. They could very easily go 1-5/2-4 the rest of the way and finish 4-8/5-7. 23-27 or 24-26 through 4 years after the success they had under Leach puts you in the hot seat.
 

BBBLazing

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A couple of questions about Neal - do you think Purdue may be interested? If Brohm moves, would he look at WKU or would that be a lateral move, at best? Where are his best options to move to at the end of this year?

I really like Neal and would really like to see him be HC at UK some day. But, I'm not sure I want to see him move from two years as Troy's HC to a HC at arguably the toughest job in the SEC. I would want a little more seasoning, at perhaps a school like Purdue.
Realize that our job is not a good one. People that get "seasoned" go to better jobs. Rich Brooks said when they asked him if is job was in jeopardy that he wasn't the first guy they offered the job to. Everyone acts like we can hire big name coaches, but they don't want this job.
 
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bthaunert

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If he is goes and is successful at TT what makes you think UK could get him away from there?
Three things... 1). From KY, went to UK, coached at UK. 2) UC took Tubberville away from Texas Tech (Tubberville wasn't overly successful there, but still left for a non Power5 job). 3) He and Mitch already have a relationship together.

Not saying it is 100%, but it is a very doable situation.
 

Mr Schwump

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Kingsberry is on the hot seat?

Kingsberry's D has been horrible, probably worse than Brohm's. I think he'll probably get another year to get that fixed, will probably can his D staff. He's a Tech grad so they'll let him hang around to try to make improvements.
 

RonEJones

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I hear you though - Troy did give Clemson fits, but I'd love to see Brown take a P5 school and turn them around before coming here (hopefully someday).

We'll see what happens - maybe UK offers him if Stoops doesn't work out. At least he would have had HC experience before taking the reigns here - which is more experience than Joker and Stoops has as HCs before getting UK job.

That's the problem. We are UK. If Brown takes over any P5 school and has success, he's going to have much better offers than UK, so that ship would have sailed.

With/if Stoops fails, first we need to go after a proven HC who is still at the top of his game but has some recent warts (i.e. Petrino a few seasons ago. Briles, maybe Tressel) or someone like Brown who is kicking butt at a lower level D1 school. Barring some unexplained event, we are not getting a P5 coach, who is excelling and hasn't screwed up in some way outside of FB.
 

Mr Schwump

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That's the problem. We are UK. If Brown takes over any P5 school and has success, he's going to have much better offers than UK, so that ship would have sailed.

With/if Stoops fails, first we need to go after a proven HC who is still at the top of his game but has some recent warts (i.e. Petrino a few seasons ago. Briles, maybe Tressel) or someone like Brown who is kicking butt at a lower level D1 school. Barring some unexplained event, we are not getting a P5 coach, who is excelling and hasn't screwed up in some way outside of FB.

Just don't see the lure in Tressel. The guy's nearing his mid-60s, hasn't coached in several years, just don't think he'd be interested in a building project and don't think UK would be interested in him.
 

tntuk

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That's the problem. We are UK. If Brown takes over any P5 school and has success, he's going to have much better offers than UK, so that ship would have sailed.

With/if Stoops fails, first we need to go after a proven HC who is still at the top of his game but has some recent warts (i.e. Petrino a few seasons ago. Briles, maybe Tressel) or someone like Brown who is kicking butt at a lower level D1 school. Barring some unexplained event, we are not getting a P5 coach, who is excelling and hasn't screwed up in some way outside of FB.
Neal went to UK and is from here. That helps.
 

RonEJones

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Neal went to UK and is from here. That helps.

Sure it can help. But if he has success in a P5 conference, Kentucky is not going to have a realistic shot. We have to acknowledge where we are on the totem pole.

He's a coach more so than a fan. This is a business and allegiances to universities go out the window when it comes to big time coaching jobs, prestige and better opportunities.
 

tntuk

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Sure it can help. But if he has success in a P5 conference, Kentucky is not going to have a realistic shot. We have to acknowledge where we are on the totem pole.

He's a coach more so than a fan. This is a business and allegiances to universities go out the window when it comes to big time coaching jobs, prestige and better opportunities.
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