Trump's elimination of DEI and what it means.

AggieSooner

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Many people know that DEI helps underrepresented students or workers obtain an education or a job.

But what you may not know, is that DEI also provides funding for installing ramps, elevators, bathrooms, and other physical accessability features for handicapped individuals, including the elderly and veterans.

DEI provides assistive technology, extra time on tests, alternative learning formats, and other accommodations for students k-12, and in college who have learning disabilities such as ADHD, dyslexia, autism, etc.

ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) provides the legal legislation for such things while DEI largely provides the funding and resources.

With Trump eliminating DEI/DEIA initiatives in the workforce and schools, these items listed above will have extremely limited funding, or none at all. Meaning. These items, and many more, will no longer be available for anyone.

My sources are AP, Reuters, NPR, and BBC. All of which are neutral sources that don't care about left or right wing politics.
 

kenasbury9468

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Yeah DEI also hires alot of people that have no clue about the job they are supposed to do...your sources are the AP, Reuters, NPR and BBC, all left leaning sources of BS...are you an Aggie, that is the only way that you can make sense of what you wrote
 

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While DEI programs do play a role in promoting accessibility and inclusivity, it is not accurate to say that these programs are the primary or sole funding source for accommodations like ramps, elevators, or assistive technology. These initiatives are also supported by other programs and mandates, particularly the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which requires public and private sectors to ensure accessibility for people with disabilities. The ADA is a legally binding framework that ensures people with disabilities are accommodated, and it is backed by federal funding and legal obligations. Therefore, even if DEI initiatives were reduced or eliminated (which they should be) the legal requirement for accessibility would still exist, and funding for those accommodations would likely be maintained under the ADA.

Also, while DEI programs can provide accommodations such as extra time on tests or alternative learning formats, many of these accommodations are still required by law under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. These laws mandate that students with disabilities receive a free and appropriate education, which includes necessary accommodations. These protections would not be immediately removed by changes to DEI initiatives, as the legal obligation remains. Critics might argue that cutting DEI initiatives would reduce some flexibility or funding for specific programs, but the core legal requirements for accommodations in education are separate and would continue under these laws.

It's also important to consider that a policy shift away from DEI initiatives may not necessarily eliminate all supports for accessibility, inclusion, and accommodations. It could simply refocus how resources are distributed. In other words, government and educational institutions may find alternative ways to fund these accommodations that do not rely on the DEI framework. For example, resources for accessibility could be redirected through specialized disability support programs or other dedicated channels without the broad structure of DEI funding.

Lastly, DEI was never a good idea to begin with. Emphasizing identity markers like race, gender, and background over merit or qualifications have lead to situations where people are placed in roles based on characteristics unrelated to job performance. DEI should complement merit-based approaches by broadening the pool of candidates and ensuring that opportunities are accessible to everyone, regardless of their background. However, DEI programs have created an environment of discrimination against people who are perceived as "privileged" or "over represented" by the left. Also claiming that the AP, Reuters, NPR, and BBC are neutral is inherently false. If you truly believe that then you are either dangerously naïve or blatantly lying. Both are equally as bad.
 

AggieSooner

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Yeah DEI also hires alot of people that have no clue about the job they are supposed to do...your sources are the AP, Reuters, NPR and BBC, all left leaning sources of BS...are you an Aggie, that is the only way that you can make sense of what you wrote
If you don't your own research you would find that those are not left leaning sources. Just google it. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it less true.
 

AggieSooner

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While DEI programs do play a role in promoting accessibility and inclusivity, it is not accurate to say that these programs are the primary or sole funding source for accommodations like ramps, elevators, or assistive technology. These initiatives are also supported by other programs and mandates, particularly the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA), which requires public and private sectors to ensure accessibility for people with disabilities. The ADA is a legally binding framework that ensures people with disabilities are accommodated, and it is backed by federal funding and legal obligations. Therefore, even if DEI initiatives were reduced or eliminated (which they should be) the legal requirement for accessibility would still exist, and funding for those accommodations would likely be maintained under the ADA.

Also, while DEI programs can provide accommodations such as extra time on tests or alternative learning formats, many of these accommodations are still required by law under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA) and Section 504 of the Rehabilitation Act of 1973. These laws mandate that students with disabilities receive a free and appropriate education, which includes necessary accommodations. These protections would not be immediately removed by changes to DEI initiatives, as the legal obligation remains. Critics might argue that cutting DEI initiatives would reduce some flexibility or funding for specific programs, but the core legal requirements for accommodations in education are separate and would continue under these laws.

It's also important to consider that a policy shift away from DEI initiatives may not necessarily eliminate all supports for accessibility, inclusion, and accommodations. It could simply refocus how resources are distributed. In other words, government and educational institutions may find alternative ways to fund these accommodations that do not rely on the DEI framework. For example, resources for accessibility could be redirected through specialized disability support programs or other dedicated channels without the broad structure of DEI funding.

Lastly, DEI was never a good idea to begin with. Emphasizing identity markers like race, gender, and background over merit or qualifications have lead to situations where people are placed in roles based on characteristics unrelated to job performance. DEI should complement merit-based approaches by broadening the pool of candidates and ensuring that opportunities are accessible to everyone, regardless of their background. However, DEI programs have created an environment of discrimination against people who are perceived as "privileged" or "over represented" by the left. Also claiming that the AP, Reuters, NPR, and BBC are neutral is inherently false. If you truly believe that then you are either dangerously naïve or blatantly lying. Both are equally as bad.
I dont agree with the identity markers like race gender and background over merit. I have never agreed with that. But I don't believe getting rid of accessability instruments or tools to help children learn is a good idea either.
 

AggieSooner

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Yeah DEI also hires alot of people that have no clue about the job they are supposed to do...your sources are the AP, Reuters, NPR and BBC, all left leaning sources of BS...are you an Aggie, that is the only way that you can make sense of what you wrote
Im interested in what sources you think are credible? Please include them in your next comment and we can have a discussion. But I believe you will try to hurl insults because you think you're right and you're not interested in listening to anyone who's views dont align with yours.
 

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Yeah DEI also hires alot of people that have no clue about the job they are supposed to do...your sources are the AP, Reuters, NPR and BBC, all left leaning sources of BS...are you an Aggie, that is the only way that you can make sense of what you wrote
YEP You can just add the other 2 K's :)
 

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The campaign has promised, for example, to eradicate both public and private diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) policies.
 

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I dont agree with the identity markers like race gender and background over merit. I have never agreed with that. But I don't believe getting rid of accessability instruments or tools to help children learn is a good idea either.
I gave a close family member who works as an attorney in disability rights and accommodation specializing in education, and speaks about this topic often. The claims you and the articles are making linking disability accommodation to DEI are incorrect. AT.Hill is correct in saying accommodation funding is independent of DEI and actually precedes DEI initiatives by a few decades. So there shouldn’t be any impact for students with disabilities.

Now, I know many federal DEI programs have sought to integrate themselves in larger programming such that they would be harder to cut. But the funding itself is separate.
 

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YEP You can just add the other 2 K's :)
 

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Yeah DEI also hires alot of people that have no clue about the job they are supposed to do...your sources are the AP, Reuters, NPR and BBC, all left leaning sources of BS...are you an Aggie, that is the only way that you can make sense of what you wrote
It appears that you view everything through the lens of unsubstantiated notions. You know that is absolutely a misinformation. You're not a bad person. You're a decent and well-meaning person. Check your comments to make sure they are factual.
 

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There is a DEI hire sitting in the Supreme Court as I speak- Brown! Dementia Biden said, even before he nominated her, that he was going to pick a woman of color, hence Brown. Brown, in the confirmation hearing, was asked specifically, "Can men get pregnant and have babies?" Simple enough, right??? Wrong! If a nominee for the highest judicial seat in the land cannot answer that one simple question, that is telling you something. Biden also had another DEI hire, his VP, Harris. This lady was clueless, and despite CBS heavily editing her 60 Minutes interview prior to the election, she still sucked! There has never been a dumber person in office, well, other than dementia Biden that is, and that is why our country was the laughing stock of the world for four years- Dems always complained and threatened Trump, and said he was going to start wars, but he has been the only president this century who did not have any new wars or actions happening under his four years. Funny how Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, under Obama, and how Russia invaded and started war with Ukraine, in 2022, under Biden. Putin was not afraid of either of them, but he did NADA with Trump in office.
The debacle in Afghanistan would not have happened under Trump- yes, he did the original framework for troops coming out, but it was under conditions, and had Trump been in office when it was executed, 13 members of our military would not have perished that day. Hell, the Taliban had a military parade with our weapons and equipment that were left there- BILLIONS upon BILLIONs worth of equipment, tons of armored vehicles, weapons, etc. THAT was a direct slap in the face of America, and they did it intentionally because Biden was/is weak. DEI hire there was Secretary of Defense Austin. Yes, he was a four-star general when he retired, but he had not led troops on the ground in decades. The guy is in Walter Reed having cancer surgery, and fails to inform his boss, or anyone else for that matter, that he could not perform his job during that time. Effectively, he was the equivalent of being AWOL, something that people can get kicked out from. I mean, Biden did not know where he was most of the time (Secret Service whistleblower said Biden got lost in a closet) anyways, but that is besides the point.
DEI hire- Karen Bass, mayor of LA. This person is utterly clueless, left on vacation overseas while her area was burning up with wildfires and only came back when it was highlighted that she was in another country attending a ceremony. This lady welcomes illegals to her area, but her area is full of homeless and trash on every corner (of course they clean up the areas where there is a higher volume and where the rich and elite are. The lady says, "We have peaceful protests," while there are areas where cars are burning, people looting all over the place, police and ICE agents being attacked, and freeways being shut down while these "peaceful protesters" are disrupting the lives of average citizens.
 

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It appears that you view everything through the lens of unsubstantiated notions. You know that is absolutely a misinformation. You're not a bad person. You're a decent and well-meaning person. Check your comments to make sure they are factual.
You got anything "factual" on DEI? Don't quote sleepy or kamalla now.
There is a DEI hire sitting in the Supreme Court as I speak- Brown! Dementia Biden said, even before he nominated her, that he was going to pick a woman of color, hence Brown. Brown, in the confirmation hearing, was asked specifically, "Can men get pregnant and have babies?" Simple enough, right??? Wrong! If a nominee for the highest judicial seat in the land cannot answer that one simple question, that is telling you something. Biden also had another DEI hire, his VP, Harris. This lady was clueless, and despite CBS heavily editing her 60 Minutes interview prior to the election, she still sucked! There has never been a dumber person in office, well, other than dementia Biden that is, and that is why our country was the laughing stock of the world for four years- Dems always complained and threatened Trump, and said he was going to start wars, but he has been the only president this century who did not have any new wars or actions happening under his four years. Funny how Russia invaded Crimea in 2014, under Obama, and how Russia invaded and started war with Ukraine, in 2022, under Biden. Putin was not afraid of either of them, but he did NADA with Trump in office.
The debacle in Afghanistan would not have happened under Trump- yes, he did the original framework for troops coming out, but it was under conditions, and had Trump been in office when it was executed, 13 members of our military would not have perished that day. Hell, the Taliban had a military parade with our weapons and equipment that were left there- BILLIONS upon BILLIONs worth of equipment, tons of armored vehicles, weapons, etc. THAT was a direct slap in the face of America, and they did it intentionally because Biden was/is weak. DEI hire there was Secretary of Defense Austin. Yes, he was a four-star general when he retired, but he had not led troops on the ground in decades. The guy is in Walter Reed having cancer surgery, and fails to inform his boss, or anyone else for that matter, that he could not perform his job during that time. Effectively, he was the equivalent of being AWOL, something that people can get kicked out from. I mean, Biden did not know where he was most of the time (Secret Service whistleblower said Biden got lost in a closet) anyways, but that is besides the point.
DEI hire- Karen Bass, mayor of LA. This person is utterly clueless, left on vacation overseas while her area was burning up with wildfires and only came back when it was highlighted that she was in another country attending a ceremony. This lady welcomes illegals to her area, but her area is full of homeless and trash on every corner (of course they clean up the areas where there is a higher volume and where the rich and elite are. The lady says, "We have peaceful protests," while there are areas where cars are burning, people looting all over the place, police and ICE agents being attacked, and freeways being shut down while these "peaceful protesters" are disrupting the lives of average citizens.
You talking about kenjante? That ***** is retarded!