Tulsa Public Schools (TPS)
- Thread starter Marvenottt
- Start date
Since we don’t know the details, I am not going to say he is guilty or not, if he did do something to a female student , I hope he gets arrested , if not , then we have an innocent man framed for something he did not do
He hasn't been convicted, but two months after his arrest, the school likely asked him to resign.
Well, that’s why I only said there was an accusation. Our society has become one of instant conviction in the public so there’s almost no chance of the individual being given the opportunity to prove their innocence and continue in their current role. It sucks. And you can blame the media and the 24-hr news cycle and sensational headlines because that’s where it starts. 70% of people reading a headline never click into the story to see what facts are presented, and most of the time there aren’t any facts presented in the article because reporters don’t take the time to gather them before putting a story out in order to be first with it. Essentially the story is nothing more than this person was accused of this and there will be a hearing. I’m all for believing women when they accuse someone, but it can also be true that waiting to get all the facts before the public issues a judgement is not a bad thing.
For sure , there should be an investigation and if he did do something , he needs to go to prison , what would be just as bad though is if someone’s life is ruined off a false accusation ( which does happen a lot )
PS- I was not saying you were accusing , my apologies, I should have clarified better , so I do apologize for that , I agree with you
There are a lot of things that are wrong, and against policy, and that should get a school employee fired, but not illegal. And the standard for criminal conviction is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt, obviously a different standard should apply to whether a person has the right and privilege to be in a workplace full of children.
LOL, having done legal work in this area, I assure you the system is not biased against school employees and few are unfairly discharged, quite the contrary, the system covers up for employees and silences victims (do a search for pass the trash). For two main reasons, first, everyone in the school has the same risk so there is a "circle the wagons" tendency, not quite thin blue line but similar. And second, abuse at a school is terrible for everyone at the school, especially the administration who's responsible for overseeing the employees and ensuring student safety and often (illegally) for conducting the investigation (pro tip, if you think there has been abuse at a school, call the police, don't go to the school). The process is also terrible for the victim, which is why - fun fact - most allegations of abuse don't come from the victim but from someone who knows the victim, a friend or family member, or someone who's upset that a kid is getting preferential treatment. Prosecuting a claim as the victim is not quite pushing a boulder uphill but it's pretty close. People who believe fictions like this inadvertently and without any ill will make the system less safe for students by supporting a culture that already puts them at a tremendous disadvantage.
This is right. But remember, you can have a Title IX violation present but not necessarily a criminal action. I understand in a HS setting, likely a title IX violation on the part of a faculty member/coach with a student involved is likely also going to draw a criminal investigation as well because of the age differences.
What always pissed me off in a college setting was the defaulting to whether or not a criminal complaint/charge came before a school would necessarily do a Title IX investigation. Baylor fans were pissed that the sexual misconduct didn't result in any criminal actions but the title IX investigations still held the students and coaches involved in the cover ups accountable. You can have a title IX violation and accountability while not having a criminal action being taken against the individual.