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UFO's....Are they out there?

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Humans have always imagined that superior beings are somewhere up in the sky, monitoring us. We’ve yet to have any tangible proof, yet some still believe it to be true.
 
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If extraterrestrial life exists that's advanced enough to traverse the solar system, then it wouldn't have to fly around in our atmosphere to observe us. It could read my computer monitor from the Kuiper Belt. And if they did for whatever silly reason decide to visibly zip around in our atmosphere, then I'd wager they'd know how not to get caught by Joe Jim Bob and his camcorder. XD
 
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Lou Elizondo is as credible of a spokesperson on this subject as there is. He stated it's been established that intelligent controlled vehicles that defy our known laws of physics, with technology unknown to anyone on earth are operating in our atmosphere. What remains unknown is who operates these things and where they originate from. Until we know more they remain a national security threat.
 
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BigSexyCat said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/tech...g-around-navy-ship-near-san-diego/vi-BB1gOZUx

In the last year or so there has been a lot of talk about UFO's. Just curious on everyone's thoughts on the matter. Personally, I tend to dismiss it until something other than a grainy pic or video surfaces. We have been getting those since the 40's.
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Same here. Very skeptical until I see more evidence. Most of the video I've seen are from pilots playing around with their fancy, new hand-held IR cameras that lock-on to targets. The speeds can be deceptive against the background. When they break lock they appear to move away at great speeds.

 
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Defies the known laws of physics or is beyond our current technological capabilities?

If a UFO has been observed that defies the known laws of physics, that has a lot to say about the accuracy of current scientific theories and thus, our understanding of nature.
 
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IdaCat said:
Defies the known laws of physics or is beyond our current technological capabilities?

If a UFO has been observed that defies the known laws of physics, that has a lot to say about the accuracy of current scientific theories and thus, our understanding of nature.
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That's true.
Quantum physics can't be reconciled with traditional Newtonian physics as of yet which means we don't know how the universe works. Think about this: 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe, and we have no idea what dark energy or dark matter is.
 
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UFO's don't make contact because they aren't alien. They're time travelers and everyone knows when you go back in time you can't change anything or you cause havoc in the future. Best to just wave at them and maybe give them that truck horn pull thing like you do on the highway when you see a semi. Did you notice how awful "Tenet" was? That's what happens when you screw up time travel.
 
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All I can say is our sun has nine planets. If Every star in the sky on a clear night has only nine planets around it, then you are looking into the millions or even billions of planets. Anyone that that thinks this little planet is the only one among billions of planets that has life on it, then I got some ocean front property upon Dutch Creek for sale, real cheap.
 
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Lord Z said:
UFO's don't make contact because they aren't alien. They're time travelers and everyone knows when you go back in time you can't change anything or you cause havoc in the future. Best to just wave at them and maybe give them that truck horn pull thing like you do on the highway when you see a semi. Did you notice how awful "Tenet" was? That's what happens when you screw up time travel.
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Deeeefense said:
That's true.
Quantum physics can't be reconciled with traditional Newtonian physics as of yet which means we don't know how the universe works. Think about this: 68% of the universe is dark energy. Dark matter makes up about 27%. The rest - everything on Earth, everything ever observed with all of our instruments, all normal matter - adds up to less than 5% of the universe, and we have no idea what dark energy or dark matter is.
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The whole question of life existing elsewhere in the universe to me is obvious. It does of course but "when' is the key. Life blinks in and out of existence all over the universe. The problem is two lifeforms existing on different planets at the same time with the ability to detect each other, not does life exist elsewhere. Life comes and goes all over.

Our time is now but it is not for long. After we get our first ice free summer in the arctic in the next couple of years and the ocean at the poles absorbs all that heat that would have normally been used to melt ice instead of warm water, then what begins with the ability to grown grain in the entire northern hemisphere being lost quickly escalates into abrupt catastrophic climate change with an almost instantaneous rise of 18 degrees c and nothing comes close to surviving that. Then 480 nuclear power plants around the globe melt down releasing ionizing radiation that strips away our atmosphere and water. The scouring will wipe the planet clean. No trace will be left to have marked our passing. Then a few billion years later life will blink into existence somewhere else on some distant planet and it will all start over again with them wondering the same thing: are we alone.
 
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There is undoubtedly flying objects that are unexplainable that have tech exceeding our most unimaginable capabilities spotted by reputable personnel. The DoD is approaching from a national security perspective (i.e. who or what is monitoring us completely undisturbed in our airspace) considering it could be an adversary such as Russia or China. To me, these crafts appear to be otherworldly. When the pentagon and congress are involved you know there’s something to it.
 
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J_Dee said:
If extraterrestrial life exists that's advanced enough to traverse the solar system, then it wouldn't have to fly around in our atmosphere to observe us. It could read my computer monitor from the Kuiper Belt. And if they did for whatever silly reason decide to visibly zip around in our atmosphere, then I'd wager they'd know how not to get caught by Joe Jim Bob and his camcorder. XD
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These things are being caught on modern superior radar equipment performing maneuvers that have never been witnessed by seasoned fight jet pilots.
 
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Lord Z said:
Life blinks in and out of existence all over the universe.
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Very true, but the key is colonization. If a civilization reaches a point technologically where they can expand to other inhabitable planet(s) then they have a chance to carry on indefinitely. This is why Elon Musk and other future thinking people are strongly advocating not just visiting Mars but colonization.
 
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Lord Z said:
UFO's don't make contact because they aren't alien. They're time travelers and everyone knows when you go back in time you can't change anything or you cause havoc in the future. Best to just wave at them and maybe give them that truck horn pull thing like you do on the highway when you see a semi. Did you notice how awful "Tenet" was? That's what happens when you screw up time travel.
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The senior officer who was roswell wrote a confession before he died of what he saw at Roswell. He said the “aliens” werent aliens at all, they were actually humans who time travelled 80k years back from the future to warn the US about nukes. They traveled to the only place in the US that had nukes (roswell air force base). A similar incident happened in the UK at a base. A black triangle touched down in the forest and a army major touched the spaceship. He said it was a black triangle and inside were humans from 40k years ago. They were so advanced they didn’t even understand our language.
 
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MoneyMuntz said:
These things are being caught on modern superior radar equipment performing maneuvers that have never been witnessed by seasoned fight jet pilots.
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Are you sure about radar? From what I've read they have NOT been detected by radar. Supposedly they avoid radar detection, and there have been no sonic booms reported from these objects. Nothing from satellite surveillance, etc. We only have sketchy thermal video and supposedly "reputable" visual reports. Yes, it should be investigated. If these sightings are so common hopefully we can get good visual imagery, radar, spectroscopy, and triangulation to precisely determine range and velocity. I remain skeptical until we rule out atmospheric phenomena, lens artifacts, CCD camera blooms, etc.
 
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CondorCat said:
Are you sure about radar? From what I've read they have NOT been detected by radar. Supposedly they avoid radar detection, and there have been no sonic booms reported from these objects. Nothing from satellite surveillance, etc. We only have sketchy thermal video and supposedly "reputable" visual reports. Yes, it should be investigated. If these sightings are so common hopefully we can get good visual imagery, radar, spectroscopy, and triangulation to precisely determine range and velocity. I remain skeptical until we rule out atmospheric phenomena, lens artifacts, CCD camera blooms, etc.
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If you haven’t, you need to listen to a David Fravor interview. The Lex Fridman podcast has a fantastic interview with him. Beyond just the FLIR thermal imagery, they have a first person account that is as credible as you’ll find.
 
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I just listened to a Lou Elizondo interview. I'd never heard of the guy.

He said he talked with a "very very senior" (DOD?) official who asked him if he'd ever read his Bible and then said they knew what these observed UFOs are. Demonic. Said he was serious.

Sounds reasonable.

skip to 14:45 in this video.
 
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I've long suspected that if these UFO's are real, they could be from our future. Seems more plausible to me than little green men.
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I mean if aliens are sending ufo's here they probably aren't in them probably sending some sort of "robotic" or technology unknown ...unless they've mastered speed travel, which maybe they would have anyway. Regardless it's beyond our understanding, they may have even evolved more than what we know of as life. I assume they are viewing us like a wildlife reserve, where they view us but try not to interfere in our habitat.

But, if there is more advanced life out there...I'd have to infer there has to be other less intelligent life too just trying to figure out fire somewhere out there.
 
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UKBrassowTipIN said:
I mean if aliens are sending ufo's here they probably aren't in them probably sending some sort of "robotic" or technology unknown ...unless they've mastered speed travel, which maybe they would have anyway. Regardless it's beyond our understanding, they may have even evolved more than what we know of as life. I assume they are viewing us like a wildlife reserve, where they view us but try not to interfere in our habitat.

But, if there is more advanced life out there...I'd have to infer there has to be other less intelligent life too just trying to figure out fire somewhere out there.
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Sure, I mean we send unmanned probes to other planets in our solar system seeking info, it doesn't really take much imagination to think other more advanced civilizations could be doing likewise to us. We know gravity warps time but don't understand how. Theoretically gravity based propulsion systems could take you from point a to point b in the galaxy almost instantly.
 
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