UK football notebook: New Kentucky coach outlines plan to limit drops

KY1WING

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Just no tennis balls!

Did they use tennis balls this year?

I would like to know what drills they did use this last season though if anyone knows. Also like to know what adjustments if any were made along the way.

I'm glad to hear they are working on a plan but I didn't hear (and we probably won't) hear anything beyond fundamental football.

Hinshaw's comments of talking "... about the details of the white stripe, hands, tight diamond, eyes to the tuck every single time,” is what I heard the first time I walked into an organized practice ... Owensboro Pop Warner League ... 1971.

Guess got to tear whatever is there down take it back to basics and build it up from what you know is a sound foundation.

Figure that's why Vince Lombardi always opened his first practice each season by calling the team around him, hold up a football up and announce, "Men, this is a football".

Assume nothing.
 
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Shannon Dawson:
“I don’t know,” he said. “I’ve never really had that issue in the past. So that’s a tough question, because I don’t think there’s — if there was a perfect formula to that answer, then there would be people that would patent it and probably make a lot of money.”


Tee Martin: After Kentucky was hammered at home 48-10 by Florida last Saturday, UK wide receivers coach (and former Tennessee star quarterback) Tee Martin was asked by a hustling Tom Leach why Wildcat receivers dropped so many balls against the Gators.
Martin’s response: “I don’t know. [shrugs] I never played the position.
 

Rhavic

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Did they use tennis balls this year?

I would like to know what drills they did use this last season though if anyone knows. Also like to know what adjustments if any were made along the way.

I'm glad to hear they are working on a plan but I didn't hear (and we probably won't) hear anything beyond fundamental football.

Hinshaw's comments of talking "... about the details of the white stripe, hands, tight diamond, eyes to the tuck every single time,” is what I heard the first time I walked into an organized practice ... Owensboro Pop Warner League ... 1971.

Guess got to tear whatever is there down take it back to basics and build it up from what you know is a sound foundation.

Figure that's why Vince Lombardi always opened his first practice each season by calling the team around him, hold up a football up and announce, "Men, this is a football".

Assume nothing.

The best teams coach fundamentals before all else. That's a fact. You could have the most athletic team in college football, but if they play like a ragtag group of scrubs that can all run fast and jump high, your team just isn't going to go too far.

Catching a football is simple. It's not science. The guys have the ability to catch, they wouldn't have gotten a scholarship if they didn't have the ability, and you've seen them make brilliant catches time and time again. Consistency is the issue that our receivers face, and if consistency is the issue, then it's probably because they haven't practiced the fundamentals enough for muscle memory to kick in and take over the correct way.
 
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Like many alluded to, its a focus issue. Look the ball in every, single, time. No exceptions, no shortcuts. Then in games, muscle memory just takes over and its second nature.

Sometimes the old ways are the best.
 

jauk11

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Confidence, knowing you are going to catch a ball if at all possible, is a huge factor, IMO. And sometimes the drops are contagious, among the WRs and the individual WR. And confidence can be built somewhat by repetitions.

Something that has bothered me a lot, in high school (long ago) I was taught to make the outer shoulder's hand the hand on top, but almost all receivers seem to do the opposite now, college and pro. Did that go out of style, and my way seems best to me, it served me well, although it shouldn't make much difference unless the ball has a lot of arc on it. Picture the extreme, where a spiral is coming almost straight down (punts?) and see how twisted your hands are if you put the inner shoulder's hand on top, my way is much more natural.
 

Ineverplayedthegame

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Maybe they should practice with the jugs machine throwing the ball over their head, at their feet, and two yards behind them.
 

BlueRaider22

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Maybe they should practice with the jugs machine throwing the ball over their head, at their feet, and two yards behind them.

Lol. Yeah, QB play was pretty darn poor. But it was a bit overblown though at times. We still completed ~55% with at least 3-5 easy drops a game......so, the throws couldn't have been too far off the mark.

I've been a part of many collegiate programs......and have watched practices from many more. Everyone.....and I mean everyone......uses tennis balls. I can't remember a single one that didn't.
 
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Confidence, knowing you are going to catch a ball if at all possible, is a huge factor, IMO. And sometimes the drops are contagious, among the WRs and the individual WR. And confidence can be built somewhat by repetitions.

Something that has bothered me a lot, in high school (long ago) I was taught to make the outer shoulder's hand the hand on top, but almost all receivers seem to do the opposite now, college and pro. Did that go out of style, and my way seems best to me, it served me well, although it shouldn't make much difference unless the ball has a lot of arc on it. Picture the extreme, where a spiral is coming almost straight down (punts?) and see how twisted your hands are if you put the inner shoulder's hand on top, my way is much more natural.

Apparently. Because, so far as Im aware, the triangle and looking it in is the preferred coaching method. That wouldnt have either hand on top, unless Im just misunderstanding what youre saying.
 

Beatle Bum

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They get a new WR coach to now help with this issue. I was a bit concerned when Scott moved to WR. Hopefully, we get someone with experience and success at that coaching position.
 

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