UNC's weakness

wkycatfan7

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Joel Berry is very important to them. Their bigs aren't good at coming out and guarding people.
 

DeanSmithForever

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Dribble penetration (especially when followed by kick outs to open three point shooters), lack of quality depth behind Berry, and foul trouble (particularly among the bigs like Hicks).
 
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Cats192

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If you read their message board, they're concerned they can't stay with our guards. I think that speaks volumes. Fox and Monk gotta eat. Bam and Briscoe need to stay out of foul trouble.

They don't have a stretch 4, or a big that's a major shooter, which means that Gabriel could potentially play defense and bang and do athletic things.
 

zcats

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If you read their message board, they're concerned they can't stay with our guards. I think that speaks volumes. Fox and Monk gotta eat. Bam and Briscoe need to stay out of foul trouble.

They don't have a stretch 4, or a big that's a major shooter, which means that Gabriel could potentially play defense and bang and do athletic things.
What makes you think Gabriel would play a big part in this game?
 
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ChrisHeel92

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Dribble penetration and helping off of shooters, both of which lead to open 3s.

Hicks committing two stupid fouls per game along with refs calling two bs/questionable fouls against him per game (those two things are not unrelated).

There's a reason we've struggled against UK during the Cal era. We actually adjusted in Vegas but being guarded or not didn't seem to matter to Monk.
 

RoyKent

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THey are really well rounded. Can't just take one guy away and expect to win.

Takes a full team effort.

Not sure who guards Jackson but it will be key
 

Xception

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UNC doesn't have elite athleticism (Fox Monk Bam) and have difficulty playing against it especially trying to guard it .
 
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HiPointCatFan

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Berry is the main cog to their offensive rhythm. When he's out, they become rather pedestrian. Get him in foul trouble or on the bench for a long spell, they seem to be out of sorts. Jackson is a beast though.
 
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Mikey Likes It

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UNC doesn't have elite athleticism (Fox Monk Bam) and have difficulty playing against it especially trying to guard it .
I disagree. With the exception of Meeks who gets winded frequently they're a pretty good up and down the floor team. I think Hicks could give us fits rotating with Meeks giving them more depth inside where we pretty much just have Bam.
 

Xception

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I disagree. With the exception of Meeks who gets winded frequently they're a pretty good up and down the floor team. I think Hicks could give us fits rotating with Meeks giving them more depth inside where we pretty much just have Bam.
Running fast is not elite athleticism , they have not a soul that's like Fox or Monk
 

Cats192

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What makes you think Gabriel would play a big part in this game?

As I said in the post--they don't have a stretch 4/dribbling 4. Leaf And Welsch were worst case scenario for him. He is a phenomenal athlete and he's long. He's got decent size. He can bang in the post and affect some shots.

Make no mistake, Willis has become an excellent defender and stands to see 30+ minutes in this game. But Gabriel COULD NOT be in the UCLA game. Leaf ate our lunch in the 1st half when Willis went out. He's too skilled for Gabriel, too big for Mulder, too fast for Humphries, etc. UNC doesn't have anyone like that.

Gabriel and Humphries are both better suited for this game.
 

Cats192

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Jackson. And if he's not as good in your opinion he's still good enough to hurt us.

He's a tall skilled player that knows how to run himself open. He's got decent athleticism, he's not winning any foot races or jumping contests.
 

Cats192

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I disagree. With the exception of Meeks who gets winded frequently they're a pretty good up and down the floor team. I think Hicks could give us fits rotating with Meeks giving them more depth inside where we pretty much just have Bam.

As I said before--this is the game where Humphries and Gabriel being big will matter. It wasn't helpful vs UCLA which had moreso skilled/shooting bigs. But in a game where we need guys who can bang, clog up the lane and alter shots--I think they have a role.
 
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As I said before--this is the game where Humphries and Gabriel being big will matter. It wasn't helpful vs UCLA which had moreso skilled/shooting bigs. But in a game where we need guys who can bang, clog up the lane and alter shots--I think they have a role.
As long as neither touch the ball on offense they should be fine. Gabriel is a turnover waiting to happen and Humphries has worse hands than a statue.
 

Neue Regel

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Drive and Kick and splash the long ball, it's been Roy's kryptonite,(at least with Duke) for years.
 

Cats192

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As long as neither touch the ball on offense they should be fine. Gabriel is a turnover waiting to happen and Humphries has worse hands than a statue.

That's fair but in most cases they're just giving Bam or Willis a rest.

It felt like we couldnt afford to sit Willis in the 2nd half of ucla
 
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Cat Ballou

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I think a key in the game will be not letting guys like Theo Pinson or Luke Maye sneak up on us and beat us. Everybody worries about and focuses on Berry and Jackson, but Pinson is that Swiss Army Knife guy that can do damage on both ends, and Maye reminds me a lot of young Derek Willis, a home state kid who is not a great athlete, but he's playing with passion and can burn you from outside.

Rein in Berry and Jackson, but don't neglect those two guys and we'll win it.
 

ukdesi

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As I said in the post--they don't have a stretch 4/dribbling 4. Leaf And Welsch were worst case scenario for him. He is a phenomenal athlete and he's long. He's got decent size. He can bang in the post and affect some shots.

Make no mistake, Willis has become an excellent defender and stands to see 30+ minutes in this game. But Gabriel COULD NOT be in the UCLA game. Leaf ate our lunch in the 1st half when Willis went out. He's too skilled for Gabriel, too big for Mulder, too fast for Humphries, etc. UNC doesn't have anyone like that.

Gabriel and Humphries are both better suited for this game.

Maye can play a stretch 4 for them.
 

ukdesi

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Berry is the main cog to their offensive rhythm. When he's out, they become rather pedestrian. Get him in foul trouble or on the bench for a long spell, they seem to be out of sorts. Jackson is a beast though.

Agree with this. They lost it in the ACC tourney vs Duke after Berry had foul trouble and stayed out from 15 min mark to 5 min mark in 2nd half.
 

mjj_2K

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Defensive intensity.

They don't consistently get stops. Not as bad as UK earlier in the year, but in the same neighborhood.

And they're not a great shooting team. They have 3 shooters, one of whom is a 14 mpg game guy. If any of those guys is off, they can struggle from the perimeter, because they have no one else who can hit a jumpshot.
 
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ChrisHeel92

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Defensive intensity.

They don't consistently get stops. Not as bad as UK earlier in the year, but in the same neighborhood.

And they're not a great shooting team. They have 3 shooters, one of whom is a 14 mpg game. If any of those guys is off, they can struggle from the perimeter, because they have no one else who can hit a jumpshot.

Defensively, we're similar to UK in that we're good defensively when we want to be.

We have two 3 point shooters who I count on - JB and JJ - they're on tomorrow, UK will have to play great to beat us. They're off, its a wrap.
 

ukdesi

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He's just not consistent enough to worry about.

5.5 per game isnt anywhere near the threat someone like Leaf was.

Yeah but he is playing is best right now. Averaging 11 per game in the NCAA tourney and just had a career night vs Butler. He won't get the shots vs us as he did vs Butler, but I think he could give us trouble. A guy that can take a Willis or Gabriel off the dribble, and hit an open shot....will be a tough matchup.
 

caneintally

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If you read their message board, they're concerned they can't stay with our guards. I think that speaks volumes. Fox and Monk gotta eat. Bam and Briscoe need to stay out of foul trouble.

They don't have a stretch 4, or a big that's a major shooter, which means that Gabriel could potentially play defense and bang and do athletic things.
They do have a stretch 4 but he is horrible on D . Maye is a stretch 4. We need to guard him from 3 .

EDIT - I see someone said the exact thing .

Well there weakness is guarding guards especially while driving to the hoop . Fox,Monk,Briscoe ect should feast. UCLA actually presented more problems IMO.
 

ProjectMayhem_

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Hopefully their weakness is guarding Malik Monk so we can see him go off for another classic performance against those cheaters.