UT doesn't just lose a recruit. He tells everyone why.

Rhavic

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Isn't this like 3 decommits in the past couple of weeks or something?
 

ukalum1988

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Not exactly a decommit.

He has been told for months he may not have a spot. He was offered a blueshirt

I certainly don't make it my business to follow UT recruiting, but this seems like a "he said, he said" type of situation. As I see, UT probably found someone they liked better and cast him aside.

Good luck to the young man; hope he catches on somewhere else.
 

Blue Decade

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I can think of high school seniors who verbally committed to Kentucky and then lost their scholarship offers. This happened under Brooks, Joker, Stoops. Happens at every SEC school. Sometimes high school seniors commit without even having a scholarship offer. I don't know exactly what happened in this particular case, but I don't think it sounds remarkable or unusual.
 

Beatle Bum

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I can think of high school seniors who verbally committed to Kentucky and then lost their scholarship offers. This happened under Brooks, Joker, Stoops. Happens at every SEC school. Sometimes high school seniors commit without even having a scholarship offer. I don't know exactly what happened in this particular case, but I don't think it sounds remarkable or unusual.

Hhhhmmmm

Not sure it has happened often under Brooks.
 

jauk11

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Not exactly a decommit.

He has been told for months he may not have a spot. He was offered a blueshirt

Yeah, it happens------it just happens a lot more often at TU.

So, if this high school senior comes up with a few thousand dollars and pays his way for a semester he "might" get a scholarship, when it is obvious you already have recruits you like better.

Yeah, he better jump on that.

After all, isn't the booming metropolis of Knoxville one of the most expensive places to live in in the south, (probably only behind Louisville) so his COA paycheck would be a lot higher there?
 
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vhcat70

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I can think of high school seniors who verbally committed to Kentucky and then lost their scholarship offers. This happened under Brooks, Joker, Stoops. Happens at every SEC school. Sometimes high school seniors commit without even having a scholarship offer. I don't know exactly what happened in this particular case, but I don't think it sounds remarkable or unusual.
It happened when the staffs changed between commitment & signing day, but I don't think these coaches retracted offers of those that committed to them.
 

maysvilleky

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There's a solution to this....Have a early signing period. If a school offers and kid accepts, then let him sign. It should be binding that the school has to accept him and the kid wouldn't be allowed to change his mind. If the kid doesn't sign at the early signing, then both the school and the kid are free to look elsewhere if they want to.
 

DACats86

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There's a solution to this....Have a early signing period. If a school offers and kid accepts, then let him sign. It should be binding that the school has to accept him and the kid wouldn't be allowed to change his mind. If the kid doesn't sign at the early signing, then both the school and the kid are free to look elsewhere if they want to.
There's already a solution - the recruit should tell the school they want to sign (binding) financial agreement papers. If the school refuses, move on.
 

Orange_N_White

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Yeah, it happens------it just happens a lot more often at TU.

So, if this high school senior comes up with a few thousand dollars and pays his way for a semester he "might" get a scholarship, when it is obvious you already have recruits you like better.

Yeah, he better jump on that.

After all, isn't the booming metropolis of Knoxville one of the most expensive places to live in in the south, (probably only behind Louisville) so his COA paycheck would be a lot higher there?

Not how Blueshirt works


It is how coa allowance works. Why does it bother you so much? Kentucky can recalculate like bama did. Don't you think athletes deserve some cash allowance? BTW, no rules are broken. Sort of like WWW in basketball
 

Orange_N_White

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There's already a solution - the recruit should tell the school they want to sign (binding) financial agreement papers. If the school refuses, move on.

This is correct and the way to do it.

We had a new DC come in the picture and he wasn't a fan of this kid. We lost #1 juco DT couple of months ago. Had him committed for a year when he was a 2 star. He blew up and is staying on Louisiana.

I don't recall tears being shed for us.

Recruiting is not for weak.

He could have protected himself months ago as above post says.
 

WildCard

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There's a solution to this....Have a early signing period. If a school offers and kid accepts, then let him sign. It should be binding that the school has to accept him and the kid wouldn't be allowed to change his mind. If the kid doesn't sign at the early signing, then both the school and the kid are free to look elsewhere if they want to.
Couldn't agree more! An early signing period will not cure all the ills but it would add more "certainty" to the process.

Early to mid-September would be a good time frame. There would have to be some corresponding changes to rules about OVs, recruiting calendar, etc. to ensure that a kid had an opportunity to visit before signing (e.g., maybe allow OVs after a successful, on schedule JR academic year)? I think it would greatly help schools by limiting their "early offers" to kids they really want. And if the kid is reluctant to sign the school can say "we have a scholarship for you NOW but maybe not in January". I have no problem with the "pressure to sign" all being on the player. That's the way this particular life decision works out. I'm a bit fed up with the "hat drama" and signing day choice drama by so many kids today.

From the prospect's standpoint, a so called early offer would "prove" the school's interest in him. If they don't offer him early he can logically assume he is not at the top of their board at that time. Actually, the more I think about it, why even have a signing "period"; just let a young man "sign" anytime both he (and the school) are ready for a binding commitment. I say school because they need some assurance the young man will actually qualify and may want to "wait" for a semester of better grades or a better test score. Naturally, the athlete will still be responsible for getting himself eligible by fall semester. If not, it becomes a "lost scholarship" for that year.

However, I'm inclined to think the "elite recruiting schools" would fight this approach tooth and nail. It is a lot of work and juggling on their part but I'm inclined to think that, by and large, they profit the most from late choices or flips.

Peace
 

CloverforkCat

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UT is not the only school that this happens to. One only need to look back at Guy Morriss and his decision to pull Jacob Tamme's scholly offer. Thank goodness Rich Brooks jumped at the chance to offer him again, and the rest is history !