Victory for PA in Girls Softball Little League World Championships.

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Girls team from Johnstown, PA representing the Mid-Atlantic region beat Indiana 1-0. The tournament was played in North Carolina and there were teams from all U.S. regions, Europe, Asia, Canada, Central/South America,, and Africa.
First PA team to win the title since 1978.
I watched the first few innings. Those girls are very good players.
 
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DaytonRickster

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Pa beats Indiana 1-0 to win the LLSWS congratulations! The team PA pitcher is insane and PSU better start recruiting her now lol.
I watched th first few innings. That girl can throw and already has a nice variety of pitches. Yes, PSU should be sending her letters now.
 
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Girls team from Johnstown, PA representing the Mid-Atlantic region beat Indiana 1-0. The tournament was played in North Carolina and there were teams from all U.S. regions, Europe, Asia, Canada, Central/South America,, and Africa.
First PA team to win the title since 1978.
I watched the first few innings. Those girls are very good players.
Competition is relative. Considering you are limited by geography.
 
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I watched th first few innings. That girl can throw and already has a nice variety of pitches. Yes, PSU should be sending her letters now.
Um no. What world are you living in? The fact that there are some pitchers that might do well in LL. The competition stinks period. It’s a nice league for local girls that don’t play travel ball. Why is she not playing here instead? Food for thought. This is where psu should be looking to recruit from. Check out those 12u teams.

 

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There are still kids picking dandelions in RF like there were 50 years ago that have rarely gotten a hit, let alone hit a 250' HR. They're obviously not currently on television though.

I don't want to judge the measurements and rules based on what we see on tv. They'd be better judged back in May/June at the local field.
I agree completely. It might (and probably should) make sense to move it back for the 12 year olds playing at the LLWS level, but for a regular Monday night game in May, there are plenty of kids struggling finding the strike zone from 46 feet (and these days, most teams can't throw their top few pitchers in a rec game like that because they are coming off of pitching for their travel team that past weekend).
 
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Um no. What world are you living in? The fact that there are some pitchers that might do well in LL. The competition stinks period. It’s a nice league for local girls that don’t play travel ball. Why is she not playing here instead? Food for thought. This is where psu should be looking to recruit from. Check out those 12u teams.


Looking at that list. PSU softball should really just be recruiting kids from the western USA. Did you check out those teams. U12 over 90% of them are from CA and a couple are from east of the Mississippi.

U14, I saw one team each from Massachusetts, Ohio. Kentucky. Only about 80% of the teams are from California.

What most people fail to understand is that a kid that is capable of playing a sport at the highest level, be it football, basketball....or about anything can first pick up a ball at about age 16 and they will do fine. Youth coaches don't make high level players. God does.
 

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Looking at that list. PSU softball should really just be recruiting kids from the western USA. Did you check out those teams. U12 over 90% of them are from CA and a couple are from east of the Mississippi.

U14, I saw one team each from Massachusetts, Ohio. Kentucky. Only about 80% of the teams are from California.

What most people fail to understand is that a kid that is capable of playing a sport at the highest level, be it football, basketball....or about anything can first pick up a ball at about age 16 and they will do fine. Youth coaches don't make high level players. God does.
Um guess you don't get out much. Its unfortunate to say but if you are not in a development program by u12 in most sports you are behind the 8 ball. Yes go ahead don't play anything till your 16 and see how well you do making any sort of travel team much less a high school team....i'll wait


Speaking of going the through the whole process with one of my own children a few years back she didn't pick up a ball at 16 she picked it up at 6 and played in feel good everyone gets a trophy local little league teams till she was 13. Imagine the eye opener trying out for a regional travel team that wasn't even considered good for a u-14 level and everyone one of those players were at least 2 years ahead of development than my child.. So yeah the right youth coaches get it done in most cases (there are a lot bad youth coaches too thus the need to identify with good successful development programs).......

My child was lucky to make the team and had to work even harder to raise her skills to be equal. Ever hear of the phrase a rising tide lifts all boats? or Iron sharpens Iron? Then imagine the shock after one year all the clique good players jumped the team and went to an even better program leaving us to find an another team. But that's hard work and perseverance ==>values that on their own weight were worth it and another story all together

Those better programs field national level teams that play in the national level tournaments from u-10 all the way up to u-18 and yes the best softball is played in the south and the west go figure .... you do the math.. dont let anyone tell you other wise

Look at Texas or Oklahoma Roster or any of the top 15 teams and check the bios or hometowns of the players tell me what Travel teams and where they are from not one played Little League or mentions it. So California has enough Div 1 softball "talent" to field a team of 9 at every division 1 school. They capitalize (capitalization) on that talent. Then add all the other states.

Now tell me what chance does someone picking up a ball at 16 and being good enough to make D1? Check out the story of Karlyn Pickens

Take Notice didn't pick up a ball at 16---- started getting noticed at 9 years old

As BobPsu would say this is what you are up against

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Girls team from Johnstown, PA representing the Mid-Atlantic region beat Indiana 1-0. The tournament was played in North Carolina and there were teams from all U.S. regions, Europe, Asia, Canada, Central/South America,, and Africa.
First PA team to win the title since 1978.
I watched the first few innings. Those girls are very good players.
The pitcher for PA was something special
 

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I agree completely. It might (and probably should) make sense to move it back for the 12 year olds playing at the LLWS level, but for a regular Monday night game in May, there are plenty of kids struggling finding the strike zone from 46 feet (and these days, most teams can't throw their top few pitchers in a rec game like that because they are coming off of pitching for their travel team that past weekend).
I think Carl Stotz did a good job and wasn't in it for college scholarships or MLB contracts. Just an organized good time playing ball w/ your neighborhood pals. Which is what it hopefully still is for 90%+ of the kids.
 
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So I'm not see your kid in the olympics any too soon, because she wouldn't have had to work to catch up

Akeem Olajuwon never picked up a basketball till he was 15. Micheal Jordan played baseball in high school and then really never picked up a bat till he was 30 years old. Inside of two years, he was a legit AA player. Their are of lot of people that think he would have played in the majors within another year or two. He was developing that fast.

Thats all about size, athletic ability along hand eye co-ordination that a normal human just does not have.

If Reagan Bills is that good, she doesn't need to play on some national u12 team from California. She wasn't just that teams best pitcher, she was one of the best hitters as well. My guess is, she is nothing like your daughter. Well, she may be as good at 12 as your daughter was at 16, or maybe even better at 12 than your daughter has ever gotten.

Odafe Oweh didn't play high school football till he was 17. It really held him back.
 
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Um guess you don't get out much. Its unfortunate to say but if you are not in a development program by u12 in most sports you are behind the 8 ball. Yes go ahead don't play anything till your 16 and see how well you do making any sort of travel team much less a high school team....i'll wait


Speaking of going the through the whole process with one of my own children a few years back she didn't pick up a ball at 16 she picked it up at 6 and played in feel good everyone gets a trophy local little league teams till she was 13. Imagine the eye opener trying out for a regional travel team that wasn't even considered good for a u-14 level and everyone one of those players were at least 2 years ahead of development than my child.. So yeah the right youth coaches get it done in most cases (there are a lot bad youth coaches too thus the need to identify with good successful development programs).......

My child was lucky to make the team and had to work even harder to raise her skills to be equal. Ever hear of the phrase a rising tide lifts all boats? or Iron sharpens Iron? Then imagine the shock after one year all the clique good players jumped the team and went to an even better program leaving us to find an another team. But that's hard work and perseverance ==>values that on their own weight were worth it and another story all together

Those better programs field national level teams that play in the national level tournaments from u-10 all the way up to u-18 and yes the best softball is played in the south and the west go figure .... you do the math.. dont let anyone tell you other wise

Look at Texas or Oklahoma Roster or any of the top 15 teams and check the bios or hometowns of the players tell me what Travel teams and where they are from not one played Little League or mentions it. So California has enough Div 1 softball "talent" to field a team of 9 at every division 1 school. They capitalize (capitalization) on that talent. Then add all the other states.

Now tell me what chance does someone picking up a ball at 16 and being good enough to make D1? Check out the story of Karlyn Pickens

Take Notice didn't pick up a ball at 16---- started getting noticed at 9 years old

As BobPsu would say this is what you are up against

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Dude, chill, sorry your daughter didnt go D1. I didnt watch the PA girls LL team but the girl must at least be decent, maybe D1, probably not, but you come off as an ***. California has 40 million people and good enough weather for any sport to be played outside at any time of the year, they are going to have more recruitable athletes in EVERY SPORT they offer.

I've coached football, basketball and baseball, have guys that made the pros in each. There are tons of kids who are late bloomers and make D1 or pro without playing until HS, especially FB since a lot of big kids cant play in youth leagues. I also see kids who are concentrating on a single sport from 5 years old who never make their HS teams, this is predominantly in baseball and basketball.

A kid who should have been my #2 or 3 pitcher last year has been specializing in pitching since he was 9. He has his own personal trainer and pitching coach and even though I've had 2 former pitchers play in the MLB (1 a 4 time All star) and over a dozen others pitch in college, I was not allowed to change his throwing program. I stopped even giving him chances after spring break because he was so bad. On the other hand my CF who throws 92 from the OF, had never pitched before this year. We worked all spring and through the summer and he got an offer from Wake Forest last week. Sure he's played since he was 8 but not pitching. We were able to develop him in 4 months.

As for softball, Iowa, Nebraska, etc, their main P were instate girls. The Nebraska one was a stud, all teams need to try and keep in home talent there, especially in the days of the portal and NIL. MD has solid HS softball, especially considering its the girls lax epicenter, they have lots of girls in the state go D1 for such a small state and at least one who was on a previous olympic team. They all arent going to Oklahoma and Texas Techs but the two of the last state champions had pitchers who went D1 (UMBC and not sure of the other one) and grew up playing regular travel softball until around 11-12, then once they hit their growth spurts then they moved on to the elite level competition
 

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So I'm not see your kid in the olympics any too soon, because she wouldn't have had to work to catch up

Akeem Olajuwon never picked up a basketball till he was 15. Micheal Jordan played baseball in high school and then really never picked up a bat till he was 30 years old. Inside of two years, he was a legit AA player. Their are of lot of people that think he would have played in the majors within another year or two. He was developing that fast.

Thats all about size, athletic ability along hand eye co-ordination that a normal human just does not have.

If Reagan Bills is that good, she doesn't need to play on some national u12 team from California. She wasn't just that teams best pitcher, she was one of the best hitters as well. My guess is, she is nothing like your daughter. Well, she may be as good at 12 as your daughter was at 16, or maybe even better at 12 than your daughter has ever gotten.

Odafe Oweh didn't play high school football till he was 17. It really held him back.
Huh? is there a cognizant point in there some where? you cite three people 2 who are all word at their craft and not one mention of their work and dedication----- its not god given --ok maybe height is--- get over yourself do 10000 hours of something then get back to us. And jordan playing baseball um not because he was good at it all he worked at it and got a tryout ----its called marketing/distraction and taking time off (from a a betting scandal "supposedly" else why go back to basketball if he was sooooooo good?) tell me the attendance numbers for the Barons when he played for them nah here they are

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And you have no clue or comparison to make to my DD. I was merely explaining how the system works for 99.99999% of the kids that move through the system because we lived it. Plain and simple.

did you look up any rosters yet cochise check out where they play? or no need its all gods will?
 

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Dude, chill, sorry your daughter didnt go D1. I didnt watch the PA girls LL team but the girl must at least be decent, maybe D1, probably not, but you come off as an ***. California has 40 million people and good enough weather for any sport to be played outside at any time of the year, they are going to have more recruitable athletes in EVERY SPORT they offer.

I've coached football, basketball and baseball, have guys that made the pros in each. There are tons of kids who are late bloomers and make D1 or pro without playing until HS, especially FB since a lot of big kids cant play in youth leagues. I also see kids who are concentrating on a single sport from 5 years old who never make their HS teams, this is predominantly in baseball and basketball.

A kid who should have been my #2 or 3 pitcher last year has been specializing in pitching since he was 9. He has his own personal trainer and pitching coach and even though I've had 2 former pitchers play in the MLB (1 a 4 time All star) and over a dozen others pitch in college, I was not allowed to change his throwing program. I stopped even giving him chances after spring break because he was so bad. On the other hand my CF who throws 92 from the OF, had never pitched before this year. We worked all spring and through the summer and he got an offer from Wake Forest last week. Sure he's played since he was 8 but not pitching. We were able to develop him in 4 months.

As for softball, Iowa, Nebraska, etc, their main P were instate girls. The Nebraska one was a stud, all teams need to try and keep in home talent there, especially in the days of the portal and NIL. MD has solid HS softball, especially considering its the girls lax epicenter, they have lots of girls in the state go D1 for such a small state and at least one who was on a previous olympic team. They all arent going to Oklahoma and Texas Techs but the two of the last state champions had pitchers who went D1 (UMBC and not sure of the other one) and grew up playing regular travel softball until around 11-12, then once they hit their growth spurts then they moved on to the elite level competition
?? yep I guess what ever you say ----you dont know our end result--- everyone has their personal stories but the notion thats its God intervening is the asinine comment here..... its about work and effort im sure your eventual "pros" didnt work hard at their craft? they just showed up and balled out? of course not it takes dedication and effort regardless of age.
 

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To me, it’s similar to football recruiting rankings…a 5* kid/girl playing in an elite travel team at 13 will have a better chance at success than a 2* kid/girl just picking up the game. But there will always be diamonds in the rough and late bloomers.
 

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Competition is relative. Considering you are limited by geography.

Um no. What world are you living in? The fact that there are some pitchers that might do well in LL. The competition stinks period. It’s a nice league for local girls that don’t play travel ball. Why is she not playing here instead? Food for thought. This is where psu should be looking to recruit from. Check out those 12u teams.


Oh and psu cannot send letters if you knew what the recruiting rules were.

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You are being unnecessarily confrontational in making your points in an otherwise pleasant thread.
 

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?? yep I guess what ever you say ----you dont know our end result--- everyone has their personal stories but the notion thats its God intervening is the asinine comment here..... its about work and effort im sure your eventual "pros" didnt work hard at their craft? they just showed up and balled out? of course not it takes dedication and effort regardless of age.
Yep, this post made it sound like you just have some personal angst from how things went for you and your daughter.
 
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