Wallace III

[Calabrin]

Harrison Wallace III - Ole Miss Rebels Wide Receiver - ESPN

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Wallace has 9 receptions for 247 yards through 2 games.

 

[Corner Room Breakfast]

How's his blocking ?

 

[Calabrin]

How's his blocking ?

I was actually thinking about that as well.

Nevertheless, is it possible we need a coaching change for the WR room? Keandre Lambert-Smith was all-conference last year.

 

[Marshall2323]

I think rational fans realize that PSU would like to have kept Wallace. He chose to leave. This is the portal era. Every team has losses. Why take it personal? Who knows? Perhaps he left because he journeyed here and saw how the loyal fans were denigrating the wide outs? LOL...... PSU then pivoted and signed 3 WRs to conteract the loss of 2. The exercise of tracking players that depart and assuming they would have or should have performed the same at PSU is pure fan folly.
The 3 WRs PSU runs out there are IMO and upgrade over last season. With 2 running backs to feed, the stats are not going to tell the entire story.
I think that when you consider the ball distribution....throwing to 2 accomplished RBs, 3 skilled TEs and 3 proven WRs, it will more than mitigate the loss of Wallace.

 

[Bwifan]

I was actually thinking about that as well.

Nevertheless, is it possible we need a coaching change for the WR room? Keandre Lambert-Smith was all-conference last year.

I would think if PSU continues to struggle at WR this year after all the changes that JF will make a change in coach. JF hasn't been afraid to pull the trigger on other coaching spots to upgrade. I would expect the same at WR coach.

 

[BCS PSU]

I would think if PSU continues to struggle at WR this year after all the changes that JF will make a change in coach. JF hasn't been afraid to pull the trigger on other coaching spots to upgrade. I would expect the same at WR coach.

I've been very happy with the wide receiver play so far; I think that the top three all bring different attributes which compliment each other.

 

[BCS PSU]

Harrison Wallace III - Ole Miss Rebels Wide Receiver - ESPN

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Wallace has 9 receptions for 247 yards through 2 games.

He had a really good game against WVU last season too, and then his production declined. Let's see how he does against the elite SEC teams. I'll be interested if he can make combat catches better than he did last season against OSU and Oregon when he basically got physically dominated.

 

[ELDADDY]

Is this the same WR who gave OSU an interception last year in the endzone? Or is this the one who ND dominated for 60 minutes? I get names confused sometimes.

 

[cjrugger]

We don't run the Air Raid. Comparing stats is dumb

 

[grinagrin]

I would have like to have Wallace stay but I think a change was best for both parties.

 

[KingLando]

Is this the same WR who gave OSU an interception last year in the endzone? Or is this the one who ND dominated for 60 minutes? I get names confused sometimes.

Yupp

I would have like to have Wallace stay but I think a change was best for both parties.

100% agreed. It's not always that someone sucks but change of scenery is good. They may need a different voice.

 

[KingLando]

We don't run the Air Raid. Comparing stats is dumb

People ignore scheme because it doesn't help their arguments plus many of them don't understand it.

 

[thoss]

He's playing with a quarterback who has better mechanics, more consistent location and, because of that consistency, more confidence throwing the ball. Basically has a QB who can get him the ball. This is one more sign that PSU's problems in the passing game can't be blamed on the wideouts. This year's wideouts are better but the result may be pretty similar unfortunately.

 

[bbrown]

I think rational fans realize that PSU would like to have kept Wallace. He chose to leave. This is the portal era. Every team has losses. Why take it personal? Who knows? Perhaps he left because he journeyed here and saw how the loyal fans were denigrating the wide outs? LOL...... PSU then pivoted and signed 3 WRs to conteract the loss of 2. The exercise of tracking players that depart and assuming they would have or should have performed the same at PSU is pure fan folly.
The 3 WRs PSU runs out there are IMO and upgrade over last season. With 2 running backs to feed, the stats are not going to tell the entire story.
I think that when you consider the ball distribution....throwing to 2 accomplished RBs, 3 skilled TEs and 3 proven WRs, it will more than mitigate the loss of Wallace.

Good for him, glad he's doing well in these first 2 games.
I'm happy with who we have.

 

[Erial_Lion]

He's playing with a quarterback who has better mechanics, more consistent location and, because of that consistency, more confidence throwing the ball. Basically has a QB who can get him the ball. This is one more sign that PSU's problems in the passing game can't be blamed on the wideouts. This year's wideouts are better but the result may be pretty similar unfortunately.

And if he comes back down to earth against better competition, I'll assume the only possibility is that it's due to his QB suddenly losing his mechanics/confidence?

 

[slwlion]

Harrison Wallace III - Ole Miss Rebels Wide Receiver - ESPN

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Wallace has 9 receptions for 247 yards through 2 games.

Uh Oh.

 

[thoss]

PSU had a QB on the roster last year who has NFL level accuracy and consistency. Unfortunately, he now plays for Missouri.

 

[KingLando]

PSU had a QB on the roster last year who has NFL level accuracy and consistency. Unfortunately, he now plays for Missouri.

We'll see which one gets drafted higher. Hint it won't be close
These idiotic comments are exactly what I mean by why these threads are started. We have people that don't understand anything about football just wanting to attack Allar. It's pathetic but you are who you are.

 

[Nitt1300]

SMH

 

[thoss]

We'll see which one gets drafted higher. Hint it won't be close
These idiotic comments are exactly what I mean by why these threads are started. We have people that don't understand anything about football just wanting to attack Allar. It's pathetic but you are who you are.

Cognitive dissonance tends to produce a lot of emotion. Allar won't be drafted high if his accuracy against quality opposition resembles how he played on Saturday against second-tier opposition. The NFL doesn't care if you can make otherworldly throws but you can't put 95% of routine throws on the money. Some team may take him if they think they can fix his mechanics, a la Hackenberg, but that's called a project.

And if he comes back down to earth against better competition, I'll assume the only possibility is that it's due to his QB suddenly losing his mechanics/confidence?

Just look at the tape. Look at the balls Wallace is getting, look at the accuracy of the throws. Look at the accuracy of the former PSU backup playing for Missouri. It's pretty striking. I love Drew and his highs are really high but his lack of consistency is the biggest problem on the team right now.

We'll see which one gets drafted higher. Hint it won't be close
These idiotic comments are exactly what I mean by why these threads are started. We have people that don't understand anything about football just wanting to attack Allar. It's pathetic but you are who you are.

Consistency is probably a tough concept for fans. You see Drew make a fabulous throw 40 yards across the field and that's an NFL QB. But that doesn't win games as much as making the short and medium throws with 95% consistency. The NFL wants the big arm, they want the height, but they also want near perfect accuracy, and the big arm and the height so rarely go with perfect accuracy -- Rothlisberger and Josh Allen don't come along very often. I suspect this year will look at lot like last year. PSU will have trouble throwing the ball against quality secondaries, there will be INTs at very bad times, and this year it will be harder to blame the receivers. I do hope I'm wrong of course.

 

[LMTLION]

Cognitive dissonance tends to produce a lot of emotion. Allar won't be drafted high if his accuracy against quality opposition resembles how he played on Saturday against second-tier opposition. The NFL doesn't care if you can make otherworldly throws but you can't put 95% of routine throws on the money. Some team may take him if they think they can fix his mechanics, a la Hackenberg, but that's called a project.


Just look at the tape. Look at the balls Wallace is getting, look at the accuracy of the throws. Look at the accuracy of the former PSU backup playing for Missouri. It's pretty striking. I love Drew and his highs are really high but his lack of consistency is the biggest problem on the team right now.


Consistency is probably a tough concept for fans. You see Drew make a fabulous throw 40 yards across the field and that's an NFL QB. But that doesn't win games as much as making the short and medium throws with 95% consistency. The NFL wants the big arm, they want the height, but they also want near perfect accuracy, and the big arm and the height so rarely go with perfect accuracy -- Rothlisberger and Josh Allen don't come along very often. I suspect this year will look at lot like last year. PSU will have trouble throwing the ball against quality secondaries, there will be INTs at very bad times, and this year it will be harder to blame the receivers. I do hope I'm wrong of course.

My brother, who is a big NFL fan but not so much a college fan, watches one or two PSU games with me each season, whether in person or on TV. He was with me at the FIU game. After the game, he tells me ‘you’re going to have problems, he hasn’t changed from last season.’ I couldn’t dispute his assessment. Like you said, the consistency is completely absent. It’s because he can’t get out of his own head He is his own worst enemy with his lack of composure. Both he and Singleton need to learn how to just let ‘er rip, whether it’s Allar using his whole body to step into his throws or Singleton just bouncing it outside or hitting the hole with his 4.4 speed vs acting so damn tentative.

 

[Moogy]

We don't run the Air Raid. Comparing stats is dumb

Ole Miss Passing Attempts: 61 (55+6)
PSU Passing Attempts: 68 (59+9)

Starting QB Passer Rating:
Ole Miss: 151.4
PSU: 145.6

Ole Miss Rushing Attempts: 92
PSU Rushing Attempts: 67

 

[KingLando]

Ole Miss Passing Attempts: 61 (55+6)
PSU Passing Attempts: 68 (59+9)

Starting QB Passer Rating:
Ole Miss: 151.4
PSU: 145.6

Ole Miss Rushing Attempts: 92
PSU Rushing Attempts: 67

So, you're not understanding the point being made about the offense scheme?

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Cognitive dissonance tends to produce a lot of emotion. Allar won't be drafted high if his accuracy against quality opposition resembles how he played on Saturday against second-tier opposition. The NFL doesn't care if you can make otherworldly throws but you can't put 95% of routine throws on the money. Some team may take him if they think they can fix his mechanics, a la Hackenberg, but that's called a project.


Just look at the tape. Look at the balls Wallace is getting, look at the accuracy of the throws. Look at the accuracy of the former PSU backup playing for Missouri. It's pretty striking. I love Drew and his highs are really high but his lack of consistency is the biggest problem on the team right now.


Consistency is probably a tough concept for fans. You see Drew make a fabulous throw 40 yards across the field and that's an NFL QB. But that doesn't win games as much as making the short and medium throws with 95% consistency. The NFL wants the big arm, they want the height, but they also want near perfect accuracy, and the big arm and the height so rarely go with perfect accuracy -- Rothlisberger and Josh Allen don't come along very often. I suspect this year will look at lot like last year. PSU will have trouble throwing the ball against quality secondaries, there will be INTs at very bad times, and this year it will be harder to blame the receivers. I do hope I'm wrong of course.

Do agree that accuracy is the most underrated metric by media analysts and fans not actually working in the NFL. Joe Montana is the prototypical example - didn't have the huge arm, wasn't huge.... etc.... He was a very good all-around athlete, who could often buy time, had a quick release and was deadly accurate. Aaron Rogers is a very similar athlete to Joe Montana with a bigger arm - his performance against the Ravens last Sunday was clinical - bought himself time on most of his throws and was just insanely accurate on the move with that really quick release (a quick release is also very underrated by non-NFL employed "analysts" - almost all the greats have it).

I'm not really critical of Drew because he has won a lot of games for PSU (like the USC game last year) and overall he is a very good QB. The two big criticisms however would be that his accuracy is marginal (some call it "consistency", but the terms mean the same thing. You can't be "sometimes accurate" and be considered accurate.) and he has a fairly slow release which is why he struggles to get the ball out sometimes.

 

[KingLando]

Completion percentage of the projected top QBs in next year's draft

Player 2025/2024
Mateer 71.8%/64.7%
Allar 69.5%/66.5%
Nussmeier 68.4%/64.2%
Sellers 60.5%/65.6%
Manning 60.0%/67.8%
Klubnik 59.7%/63.4%
Leavitt 57.4%/61.7%

We're supposed to believe Allar's accuracy is a problem?
The data doesn't support the nonsense--the issue is many of you only watch Penn State and have no idea
He was the best last year other than Manning who attempted less than 100 passes and second best so far this year--but push a false narrative against your own team

 

[cjrugger]

Ole Miss Passing Attempts: 61 (55+6)
PSU Passing Attempts: 68 (59+9)

Starting QB Passer Rating:
Ole Miss: 151.4
PSU: 145.6

Ole Miss Rushing Attempts: 92
PSU Rushing Attempts: 67

What are you trying to say?

 

[WaffleShopper]

Completion percentage of the projected top QBs in next year's draft

Player 2025/2024
Mateer 71.8%/64.7%
Allar 69.5%/66.5%
Nussmeier 68.4%/64.2%
Sellers 60.5%/65.6%
Manning 60.0%/67.8%
Klubnik 59.7%/63.4%
Leavitt 57.4%/61.7%

We're supposed to believe Allar's accuracy is a problem?
The data doesn't support the nonsense--the issue is many of you only watch Penn State and have no idea
He was the best last year other than Manning who attempted less than 100 passes and second best so far this year--but push a false narrative against your own team

2nd best so far? I like your cherry-picked list of names, but he’s actually 35th in completion % so far this year behind Arnold (T6th), Beck (T6th), Pavia (19th), Jennings (23rd), Green (27th), and Mateer (28th). Your boy Pribula is 4th. A bunch of other QBs that will get drafted are ahead of him.

But completion % is kind of meaningless when you don’t factor in any other stats. Let’s try another. So far this year Drew is 75th in yards per attempt and 88th in yards per completion. I don’t have the energy to list all the “top” QBs ahead of him on those stats.

He's getting drafted high for sure. But it will be based on measurables and how he looks in shorts and a tshirt. His stats are not so good.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

Completion percentage of the projected top QBs in next year's draft

Player 2025/2024
Mateer 71.8%/64.7%
Allar 69.5%/66.5%
Nussmeier 68.4%/64.2%
Sellers 60.5%/65.6%
Manning 60.0%/67.8%
Klubnik 59.7%/63.4%
Leavitt 57.4%/61.7%

We're supposed to believe Allar's accuracy is a problem?
The data doesn't support the nonsense--the issue is many of you only watch Penn State and have no idea
He was the best last year other than Manning who attempted less than 100 passes and second best so far this year--but push a false narrative against your own team

Just love how you craft your bs strawmen arguments - he is only "2nd best" in the absurd list you've decided to create; he is nowhere close to "2nd best" in that (or any other passing stat for that matter) in FBS football this year - nowhere close. You fail to mention that his average per attempt of 7.1 yards is 3rd Quartile - Jayden Maiava, who also plays in b1g, leads the nation in yards/att with 16.8 yards/att (Maiava has completed 73.8% of his passes!). Maiava has thrown for 707 yards through 2 games - in other words, he's thrown for 170% of the yardage Drew has on only 71% of the attempts Drew has taken! Maiava is a JR and I'm guessing he'll be drafted if he keeps playing like he has.

Dylan Raiola is another b1g QB that has put up way better numbers to-date and will likely be drafted (Raiola has completed more than 78% of his passes for 607 yards). Luke Altmyer another In-Conference QB with way better stats to date.

Drew's minuscule yards per attempt suggests he's been completing a lot of short passes while his downfield "explosive play" passing has not been nearly as good.

I think Drew will be fine - and he's a very good QB. Does he have some faults? Yes. He has not played like the 2nd best QB in FBS to date this year - and that's what you're trying to imply which is absurd. Could you just STFU with your stupid nonsense and "kiddo" bs. Good Lord you're such an insufferable moron.

 

[KingLando]

2nd best so far? I like your cherry-picked list of names, but he’s actually 35th in completion % so far this year behind Arnold (T6th), Beck (T6th), Pavia (19th), Jennings (23rd), Green (27th), and Mateer (28th). Your boy Pribula is 4th. A bunch of other QBs that will get drafted are ahead of him.

But completion % is kind of meaningless when you don’t factor in any other stats. Let’s try another. So far this year Drew is 75th in yards per attempt and 88th in yards per completion. I don’t have the energy to list all the “top” QBs ahead of him on those stats.

He's getting drafted high for sure. But it will be based on measurables and how he looks in shorts and a tshirt. His stats are not so good.

Did you miss the part of those considered for the top spot in the draft? Not kids like Beau that don't have an NFL future.

I two games which is meaningless which is why I included last year. It also is impact by YAC and offensive scheme

The reality is you're wrong. He's not the problem. Just like the other QBs with NFL talent are.

Who did I miss that's going to go a high pick in 2026? Anyone?

He's getting drafted high because of success on the field and how he looks on short.

 

[KingLando]

Just love how you craft your bs strawmen arguments - he is only "2nd best" in the absurd list you've decided to create; he is nowhere close to "2nd best" in that (or any other passing stat for that matter) in FBS football this year - nowhere close. You fail to mention that his average per attempt of 7.1 yards is 3rd Quartile - Jayden Maiava, who also plays in b1g, leads the nation in yards/att with 16.8 yards/att (Maiava has completed 73.8% of his passes!). Maiava has thrown for 707 yards through 2 games - in other words, he's thrown for 170% of the yardage Drew has on only 71% of the attempts Drew has taken! Maiava is a JR and I'm guessing he'll be drafted if he keeps playing like he has.

Dylan Raiola is another b1g QB that has put up way better numbers to-date and will likely be drafted (Raiola has completed more than 78% of his passes for 607 yards). Luke Altmyer another In-Conference QB with way better stats to date.

Drew's minuscule yards per attempt suggests he's been completing a lot of short passes while his downfield "explosive play" passing has not been nearly as good.

I think Drew will be fine - and he's a very good QB. Does he have some faults? Yes. He has not played like the 2nd best QB in FBS to date this year - and that's what you're trying to imply which is absurd. Could you just STFU with your stupid nonsense and "kiddo" bs. Good Lord you're such an insufferable moron.

I said 2nd best of the guys expected to be early picks. You could take your own advice but you won't. His accuracy, which is what you incorrectly attacked, isn't the problem. I could add in drops as well.if you'd like.

It's an offense with all of there receivers and Warren gone. Of course it's not perfect week one.

Just like you bashed Ohio State week one. You have no clue what you're talking about.

 

[thoss]

Completion percentage of the projected top QBs in next year's draft

Player 2025/2024
Mateer 71.8%/64.7%
Allar 69.5%/66.5%
Nussmeier 68.4%/64.2%
Sellers 60.5%/65.6%
Manning 60.0%/67.8%
Klubnik 59.7%/63.4%
Leavitt 57.4%/61.7%

We're supposed to believe Allar's accuracy is a problem?

His completion percentage reflects Nevada which couldn't cover anybody.

Against FIU he was 19 for 33. 19 for 33!!!! And receivers saved his butt on multiple occasions catching off-target balls.

Yes Drew can throw the ball beautifully probably 80% of the time. The problem is the other 20%.

When he sees pressure, when he has to move, his footwork and posture become inconsistent and the throws go off target. That is to some extent a lack of discipline but it's also a byproduct of being as long as he is. Even slight differences in angles are magnified if you're that long.

 

[Moogy]

What are you trying to say?

I'm not trying to say anything. It's obvious the existence of the "Air Raid" offense does not negate the merits of a statistical comparative.

 

[KingLando]

His completion percentage reflects Nevada which couldn't cover anybody.

Against FIU he was 19 for 33. 19 for 33!!!! And receivers saved his butt on multiple occasions catching off-target balls.

Yes Drew can throw the ball beautifully probably 80% of the time. The problem is the other 20%.

When he sees pressure, when he has to move, his footwork and posture become inconsistent and the throws go off target. That is to some extent a lack of discipline but it's also a byproduct of being as long as he is. Even slight differences in angles are magnified if you're that long.

Yet everyone else plays teams that can cover other than Drew?
All of those criticisms are standard for most if not all college QBs

 

[MacNit]

I was actually thinking about that as well.

Nevertheless, is it possible we need a coaching change for the WR room? Keandre Lambert-Smith was all-conference last year.

Yes

 

[cjrugger]

I'm not trying to say anything. It's obvious the existence of the "Air Raid" offense does not negate the merits of a statistical comparative.

If you think the Ole Miss offense and the PSU offense are designed to provide the same opportunity for WRs to post stats, you’re an idiot

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

I said 2nd best of the guys expected to be early picks. You could take your own advice but you won't. His accuracy, which is what you incorrectly attacked, isn't the problem. I could add in drops as well.if you'd like.

It's an offense with all of there receivers and Warren gone. Of course it's not perfect week one.

Just like you bashed Ohio State week one. You have no clue what you're talking about.

You truly are clueless - it's as if you didn't even watch the game this past Saturday! How you can not see the inanity of your claims, and the absurd cherry-picked strawman arguments you make to support them, is stunning. Your claims are only true when viewed through your absurd self-created screens - I like Drew and think he is plenty talented - does he have some weaknesses? Yes - inconsistent accuracy and a fairly slow release primary among them.

 

[KingLando]

You truly are clueless - it's as if you didn't even watch the game this past Saturday! How you can not see the inanity of your claims, and the absurd cherry-picked strawman arguments you make to support them, is stunning. Your claims are only true when viewed through your absurd self-created screens - I like Drew and think he is plenty talented - does he have some weaknesses? Yes - inconsistent accuracy and a fairly slow release primary among them.

Says the person that thought everyone should be worried about Ohio State after they bear Texas
You don't like Drew nor do you understand what you're talking about. His completion percentage proves you wrong. But you're always wrong so you're used to it

 

[Moogy]

If you think the Ole Miss offense and the PSU offense are designed to provide the same opportunity for WRs to post stats, you’re an idiot

I don't have to hurl petty, childish insults ... instead, I just have to use facts.

This year PSU has been more pass heavy than Ole Miss. The QBs themselves have performed about the same, overall, with one leaning more heavily on shorter, higher completion percentage passing ... but the overall results have been about the same. So the WR performance is not explained away by scheme, nor by QB performance.

Even before any games were played this year, those who knew receivers knew Wallace was the best option amongst the PSU WR transfer carousel (in and out).

You can scream "air raid!" and "idiot!" all you want, if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't change reality.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

His completion percentage reflects Nevada which couldn't cover anybody.

Against FIU he was 19 for 33. 19 for 33!!!! And receivers saved his butt on multiple occasions catching off-target balls.

Yes Drew can throw the ball beautifully probably 80% of the time. The problem is the other 20%.

When he sees pressure, when he has to move, his footwork and posture become inconsistent and the throws go off target. That is to some extent a lack of discipline but it's also a byproduct of being as long as he is. Even slight differences in angles are magnified if you're that long.

It is also reflective of his average per attempt...which is not good (3rd Quintile in the full FBS Universe). The reality is that Drew is not the #2 QB in any FBS Passing Statistic, not even close as evidenced by the fact that he is currently the 14th Ranked QB in the big by QBR (Quarterback Rating which is a weighting of all Passing Stats) - he is currently behind Maiava USC (262.4 QBR Rating), Moore OR (213.7), Sayin duhO$U (209.7), Altmyer ILL (195.5), Kaliamanis RUT (180.9), Raiola NEB (175.1), Browne PUR (170.6), O'Neill WIS (169.7), Williams WASH (165.1), Chiles MSU (163.3), Lindsey MINN (161.2), Mendoza IND (153.6) and the Drew at 145.6. And that's just in the b1g - he's 3rd Quartile in QBR in all of FBS, but dipstick is trying to claim he's proven to be the 2nd best QB in the nation through 3 weeks of the season????????

 

[KingLando]

It is also reflective of his average per attempt...which is not good (3rd Quintile in the full FBS Universe). The reality is that Drew is not the #2 QB in any FBS Passing Statistic, not even close as evidenced by the fact that he is currently the 14th Ranked QB in the big by QBR (Quarterback Rating which is a weighting of all Passing Stats) - he is currently behind Maiava USC (262.4 QBR Rating), Moore OR (213.7), Sayin duhO$U (209.7), Altmyer ILL (195.5), Kaliamanis RUT (180.9), Raiola NEB (175.1), Browne PUR (170.6), O'Neill WIS (169.7), Williams WASH (165.1), Chiles MSU (163.3), Lindsey MINN (161.2), Mendoza IND (153.6) and the Drew at 145.6. And that's just in the b1g - he's 3rd Quartile in QBR in all of FBS, but dipstick is trying to claim he's proven to be the 2nd best QB in the nation through 3 weeks of the season???????

I know reading, like most things, isn't an ability you possess but read what I wrote again...or maybe find someone to read it to you...maybe they can draw a picture