We still have a upgraded roster

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PG- Jaland Lowe 6-3 175 JR about 17ppg lead team 4rpg 5.5apg 2spg last year all-ACC
SG- Otega Oweh 6-5 215 SR about 16ppg lead team 5rpg 2apg 2spg last year all-SEC
W- Kam Williams 6-8 190 SO about 9ppg 5rpg 1apg 1spg 1bpg last year all-fresh AAC
F- Mouhamed Dioubate 6-7 215 JR about 7ppg 6rpg 1asp 1spg 1bpg last year glue guy on a top 10 team
C- Brandon Garrison 6-11 250 JR about 6ppg 4rpg 2apg 1spg 1bpg last year former Mcdonalds AA

F- Jayden Quaintance 6-9 225 SO about 9.5ppg 8rpg 1.5apg 1spg 2.6bpg last year all-B12 defense and fresh
G- Collin Chandler 6-5 202 SO about 3ppg 1rpg 1apg 1spg last year
G/F- Trent Noah 6-5 220 SO about 3ppg 2rpg last year
G- Travis Perry 6-1 188 SO about 3ppg 1rpg 1apg last year
G- Jasper Johnson 6-4 185 FR 5 star
C- Malachi Moreno 7-0 235 FR 5 star

Walker Horn, Grant Darbyshire and Zach Tow should be back

we get Lamar Wilkerson and/or Alvaro Folgueiras were cooking with grease.
 
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Shocked if Garrison returns after deleting all Kentucky stuff off his social media🤔

So we more than likely sitting at 10, with JQ a little bit of a question mark due to health. We need to end with 3 studs and go get 9.

Alvaro, Wilkerson and a stud PG.
 

EliteBlue

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That roster had a similar ceiling but a higher floor than this past team. The offense would look drastically different as we’d likely shoot enough 3s to keep the defense honest and emphasize getting to the rim and backdoor cuts more to use the athleticism advantage 2-5. The backups would be the more shooting focused lineup. It could work tho, we’d look like a more balanced Cal team depending on size and athleticism 2-5.

Need to add Lee or Wilkerson imo to allow Jasper to backup the 1 and 2. Also allows Oweh to play the 3 which he’s more suited for imo
 
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chasingwildcat

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That roster had a similar ceiling but a higher floor than this past team. The offense would look drastically different as we’d likely shoot enough 3s to keep the defense honest and emphasize getting to the rim and backdoor cuts more to use the athleticism advantage 2-5. The backups would be the more shooting focused lineup. It could work tho, we’d look like a more balanced Cal team depending on size and athleticism 2-5.

Need to add Lee or Wilkerson imo to allow Jasper to backup the 1 and 2. Also allows Oweh to play the 3 which he’s more suited for imo
Pope can get offense done

He just recruits more athletic players for defense

Pope sacrifices some shooting for better defense
 

Wildcats1st

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I must've missed it, when did Garrison leave? Besides, "a ton?" Stop, that's just silly. JQ and MD will add MUCH more toughness than Garrison regardless if he stays or goes.
JQ mos after an acl? That entire situation is a question mark and the reason garrison should stay. I hope he makes the right decision
 
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PG- Jaland Lowe 6-3 175 JR about 17ppg lead team 4rpg 5.5apg 2spg last year all-ACC
SG- Otega Oweh 6-5 215 SR about 16ppg lead team 5rpg 2apg 2spg last year all-SEC
W- Kam Williams 6-8 190 SO about 9ppg 5rpg 1apg 1spg 1bpg last year all-fresh AAC
F- Mouhamed Dioubate 6-7 215 JR about 7ppg 6rpg 1asp 1spg 1bpg last year glue guy on a top 10 team
C- Brandon Garrison 6-11 250 JR about 6ppg 4rpg 2apg 1spg 1bpg last year former Mcdonalds AA

F- Jayden Quaintance 6-9 225 SO about 9.5ppg 8rpg 1.5apg 1spg 2.6bpg last year all-B12 defense and fresh
G- Collin Chandler 6-5 202 SO about 3ppg 1rpg 1apg 1spg last year
G/F- Trent Noah 6-5 220 SO about 3ppg 2rpg last year
G- Travis Perry 6-1 188 SO about 3ppg 1rpg 1apg last year
G- Jasper Johnson 6-4 185 FR 5 star
C- Malachi Moreno 7-0 235 FR 5 star

Walker Horn, Grant Darbyshire and Zach Tow should be back

we get Lamar Wilkerson and/or Alvaro Folgueiras were cooking with grease.
I love the optimism.
But no, our roster is not yet better than it was last fall.
I think it may be, but not there yet.

Garrison, rumored to leave, but for now him and JQ & Moreno & Dioubate are a little below what we had with a healthy AW+BG+Carr+AA at the 4/PF & 5/C positions.
At the PG/1 spot, Lowe is definitely < Butler & Kerr (even than Butler alone). But we definitely will have to add someone here.
At the 2/SG & 3/SF spots, I would put Oweh+Johnson+Kam W+Chandler+Noah+Perry is a little < Robinson+Oweh+Brea+Chandler+Perry , but hopefully we add a big piece here.
 

EliteBlue

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Pope can get offense done

He just recruits more athletic players for defense

Pope sacrifices some shooting for better defense
Yeah don't disagree at all.

Wasn’t saying “cal-like” in execution….just in physical attributes.

I 100% believe Pope would do better at scheming players open and creating easy buckets and not just saying “weave, ball screen, go beat your man….occasional floppy action for the only shooter on the floor”
 

Fadhi

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I can’t even comprehend a world where someone thinks Garrison is tough and Quaintance and Dioubate are not.
If you watch his film , JQ could definitely increase his toughness. Yeah he throws down dunks with authority but he is isn't a brute like Bam was down low.. grabbing boards and backing people down.
That said I think he increases his toughness next year cause the standards are higher here than they were at ASU.
 

ImTheVillageIdiot

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JQ mos after an acl? That entire situation is a question mark and the reason garrison should stay. I hope he makes the right decision
As of now he’s rumored to be back. I know that’s a bummer. I can only imagine you shuffling frantically through massive piles of crumpled documents trying to find something new to be upset about lol
 

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I love the optimism.
But no, our roster is not yet better than it was last fall.
I think it may be, but not there yet.

Garrison, rumored to leave, but for now him and JQ & Moreno & Dioubate are a little below what we had with a healthy AW+BG+Carr+AA at the 4/PF & 5/C positions.
At the PG/1 spot, Lowe is definitely < Butler & Kerr (even than Butler alone). But we definitely will have to add someone here.
At the 2/SG & 3/SF spots, I would put Oweh+Johnson+Kam W+Chandler+Noah+Perry is a little < Robinson+Oweh+Brea+Chandler+Perry , but hopefully we add a big piece here.
That's interesting, don't necessarily disagree, especially at PG, but I think the bigs upgrade in defense and rebounding will be significant, plus a returning Oweh and Jasper Johnson is prob an upgrade.
 

K_TIME

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1. PG is a major downgrade from Butler…I just don’t see a world where Lowe is nothing but a downgrade (maybe substantially)
2. C….major question that it’s an upgrade. Quant nance is a big question on injury. Will he be ready after 6 months in ACL and be able to move laterally, etc? Garrison is going to transfer…and Moreno is a thin kid. Amari was 2nd best C in SEC behind Broome…so I’m not sure it’s an upgrade
3. PF…until we add another one…is Diabate a major upgrade over Carr? He’s a way better athlete, defender etc. but he’s no shooter
4. I think we’ll solidly upgrade the wings and guards assuming we get Wilkerson and an older Oweh, Kam Williams , Jasper , Chandler and Noah

I just don’t see a major jump in this roster. Pope is swinging and missing a ton ..Lewis, Caleb Wilson, Gwath, Dent, etc…
 

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I’m not buying it. We have some big holes and lose a ton of toughness in garrison
Scared Season 5 GIF by Paramount+
 

Wildcats1st

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I can’t even comprehend a world where someone thinks Garrison is tough and Quaintance and Dioubate are not.
There’s no world like that only the world you guys are creating in your head. Losing garrison is losing a jr/sr who has an angry streak. Not a bad attribute for a guy his size. AND AND what does that have to do with anyone else? There’s room for all that toughness on the roster. You guys make things up so you have something to attack. lol hey and don’t forget Oweh. Maybe the toughest guy on the roster.
As of now he’s rumored to be back. I know that’s a bummer. I can only imagine you shuffling frantically through massive piles of crumpled documents trying to find something new to be upset about lol
What? lol. You think you exhibit normal behavior?
 

ImTheVillageIdiot

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There’s no world like that only the world you guys are creating in your head. Losing garrison is losing a jr/sr who has an angry streak. Not a bad attribute for a guy his size. AND AND what does that have to do with anyone else? There’s room for all that toughness on the roster. You guys make things up so you have something to attack. lol hey and don’t forget Oweh. Maybe the toughest guy on the roster.

What? lol. You think you exhibit normal behavior?
No but I have a variety of posts rather than the the same two tired points. I am nowhere close to normal lol. I’m not sure that I insinuated in any regard that I am.
 
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bucsrule8872

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Not sure we are better or worse off. I think this could be a better defensive team, maybe a better rebounding team. Offensively, I don’t know. And we aren’t anywhere near as experienced, losing all those fifth year guys. Luckily, just about everyone in the SEC has a bunch of veterans to replace as well.
 

JimboBBN

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Butler = Lowe (Butler better on defense, Lowe on offense)
Oweh (Jr) < Oweh (Sr)
Robinson = Jasper
Carr < Garrison (Jr)
Williams < Quaintance

Almonor, Brea, Chandler, Kriisa, Garrison, Perry, Noah < Dioubate, Williams, Wilkerson, Chandler, Moreno, Perry, Noah


You can move some of the pieces around in the starting line up for next season, but there is not doubt we are going to field a better team in 2026 than 2025. Even if the starters are close, the bench is not.
 
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TigerMoving

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Last year's roster had Final Four/title capabilities (if they stayed healthy obviously). This roster can go to the FF/win it all too, just gotta improve the defense some and get luckier with injuries.
 
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Festivus Miracle

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Jasper Johnson is a PG too. He averaged 6 assists per game at the OTE academy. He played off ball as a junior next to Philon at Link Academy, was the primary this past year.
This is not being considered enough. He will be an outstanding combo by March.
 

bucsrule8872

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Jasper Johnson is a PG too. He averaged 6 assists per game at the OTE academy. He played off ball as a junior next to Philon at Link Academy, was the primary this past year.
This is not being considered enough. He will be an outstanding combo by March.
This.

Johnson is going to play PG at the next level.

I think Pope was going to play him there over Lewis, which is why Lewis has opted out.
 

flacat22

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There’s no world like that only the world you guys are creating in your head. Losing garrison is losing a jr/sr who has an angry streak. Not a bad attribute for a guy his size. AND AND what does that have to do with anyone else? There’s room for all that toughness on the roster. You guys make things up so you have something to attack. lol hey and don’t forget Oweh. Maybe the toughest guy on the roster.

What? lol. You think you exhibit normal behavior?
"Angry" does not equal productive or tough. That anger nearly got us in hot water. It's one thing to place with emotion but to play with the inability to keep that emotion in check it becomes detrimental to the team.
 

Dalroxas

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I think it’s
Lowe at pg
Johnson sg
Oweh sf
Muhammad at pf
JQ if healthy at C

With Chandler, Kam, Noah, Moreno, and Garrison at reserve
 

Eagles_Ball_69

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ACLs aren’t that big of a deal. 6-8 months is typical.
6-8 months isn't typical. I've pissed off plenty on here discussing this, so much so that they've found about a handful of BASKETBALL players over the last 25 yrs or so that returned prior to 9 months. So yeah, that's not typical at all.

What is typical is somewhere between 8-12 months to fully return to play, and 8-9 months is the expectation if there are no setbacks. Can JQ beat that? Sure. But it's not typical. Could it take significantly longer? Sure. But that's not typical either.

As The Skipper TLR once famously said, "buh, men not machines".
 

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Shocked if Garrison returns after deleting all Kentucky stuff off his social media🤔

So we more than likely sitting at 10, with JQ a little bit of a question mark due to health. We need to end with 3 studs and go get 9.

Alvaro, Wilkerson and a stud PG.
We are out on Alvaro, Wilkerson is poor on defense, could be others were bad on team but the Defense rating is BAD so hope he can score
 
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Eagles_Ball_69

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Lowe is not a significant downgrade from Butler lol.
Lowe is POTENTIALLY not a significant downgrade. Correct. As it stands currently with the data he's provided in two years of play, it's pretty hard to not see he's at the very least a downgrade.