"We WILL throw the ball down the field this week"

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Putting it up right now so that we can come back and review this Saturday about 4pm. The memories are fresh from "going to have some life infused by Howard and Denmark" from last week followed by: Denmark 1 snap, Howard 7 snaps.

But hey according to some, actual personnel decisions are not made by head coach Terry Smith šŸ˜‚
 

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Landon Tengwall said the following on Tuesday's pre-game podcast:

-"Andy Kotelnicki is the worst offensive coordinator I have ever seen"
-"He is not serious"
-"He has killed any chance he had at a head coaching position"
-"His play calling makes no sense"
-"We don't have any plays for Koby Howard, but we call three trick plays for Liam Clifford?"
-"We gained 35 yards and scored a touchdown with a 7-offensive lineman set that we used 3 times in the first half... and then stopped going to it."
-"He seems like he is trying to sabotage Penn State at this point. I'm not kidding."
 

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Landon Tengwall said the following on Tuesday's pre-game podcast:

-"Andy Kotelnicki is the worst offensive coordinator I have ever seen"
-"He is not serious"
-"He has killed any chance he had at a head coaching position"
-"His play calling makes no sense"
-"We don't have any plays for Koby Howard, but we call three trick plays for Liam Clifford?"
-"We gained 35 yards and scored a touchdown with a 7-offensive lineman set that we used 3 times in the first half... and then stopped going to it."
-"He seems like he is trying to sabotage Penn State at this point. I'm not kidding."
Terry Smith needs to tell Pat Kraft he is relieving Andy K of his game planning & play calling duties immediately. Let Ty Howle take over. Frankly Kotelnicki is another failed OC experiment and Knowles isn't far behind him.
 

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He has been a total failure in his two game audition. DeLuca? Still playing virtually the entire game. Young WRs? Still sitting virtually the entire game. Dumbass "trick" plays? Still being called and failing miserably and repeatedly. Going with the "cold hand" at RB every game? Check. Refusing to throw the FORWARD ( as opposed to sideways) pass? Check. Going for it on 4th down in your own territory early in a tie/close game? Check. It's like his entire coaching philosophy is "WWBGJFD" (What Would Big Game James Franklin Do?).
 

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According to Terry Smith it's the coordinators call on personnel, so there's that.
Penn State is the first college football program in history in which the head coach has no say over which players actually play. šŸ˜‚. Sorry, this is ********
 

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Landon Tengwall said the following on Tuesday's pre-game podcast:

-"Andy Kotelnicki is the worst offensive coordinator I have ever seen"
-"He is not serious"
-"He has killed any chance he had at a head coaching position"
-"His play calling makes no sense"
-"We don't have any plays for Koby Howard, but we call three trick plays for Liam Clifford?"
-"We gained 35 yards and scored a touchdown with a 7-offensive lineman set that we used 3 times in the first half... and then stopped going to it."
-"He seems like he is trying to sabotage Penn State at this point. I'm not kidding."
There are definitely a number of things wrong with AK's playcalling. The worst on the list might be the insistence of running some wildcat snaps AFTER your QB1 was injured for the season. Now you already have reduced QB depth, and by running wildcat with QB3 you are putting the whole room in serious danger if another injury happens. Guess what, Smolik got hurt. Then he keeps doing it, doubling down by now running it with Clifford. WTF is he doing?! Honestly this is a bad look on Terry Smith and may keep him from getting serious consideration for the head coach job as well. Smith shouldn't have allowed the 2 QB plan with Smolik to ever see the light of day, yet it happened and is still happening. I don't think Smith ever really had much of a shot anyway, short of really galvanizing the team and winning most of the games after Franklin was fired, but this decision is something I think rules him out as a good decision maker as head coach. You simply can't intentionally put more QBs at risk for injury after you've already lost one for the season.
 
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Penn State is the first college football program in history in which the head coach has no say over which players actually play. šŸ˜‚. Sorry, this is ********
Believe what you want but Smith has a reputation for not spewing BS. You could argue that Smith should be the one making the personnel decisions, but if he's saying that decision is being made by the coordinator then I believe him.
 

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Believe what you want but Smith has a reputation for not spewing BS. You could argue that Smith should be the one making the personnel decisions, but if he's saying that decision is being made by the coordinator then I believe him.
This would make him the only head coach in America who has no power over who plays. Sorry I am not buying it
 

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Putting it up right now so that we can come back and review this Saturday about 4pm. The memories are fresh from "going to have some life infused by Howard and Denmark" from last week followed by: Denmark 1 snap, Howard 7 snaps.

But hey according to some, actual personnel decisions are not made by head coach Terry Smith šŸ˜‚
So far after the 1st drive this is not aging well
 

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Can we fire Kotelnicki at halftime? Oh look we need 5 yards for a first down and let's call a 3 yard pass play
 

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TD drive with Singleton in the game and running well? Check. Take him out the very next series? Check. Total lack of production on O thereafter (not to mention a fumble)? Check. Repeat of last week.
 
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This would make him the only head coach in America who has no power over who plays. Sorry I am not buying it
He didn't say he has no control over it, he said the coordinator was the one making the decisions. There's a difference. Perhaps he has since changed that, and has now decided to take more control over personnel decisions given that we are finally starting to see more involvement from some of the younger players.
 

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Putting it up right now so that we can come back and review this Saturday about 4pm. The memories are fresh from "going to have some life infused by Howard and Denmark" from last week followed by: Denmark 1 snap, Howard 7 snaps.

But hey according to some, actual personnel decisions are not made by head coach Terry Smith šŸ˜‚
I don't understand how you can critique anything in any game the rest of the season. It's a scrimmage. We lost a head coach, our QB and our best starting LB. There's no conclusion to be made from any play call, game result, etc. Most of these players won't be here next year and they know it.

Smith has done more to change up the players seeing snap counts than anyone in the last 25 years at PSU.
 

razpsu

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I don't understand how you can critique anything in any game the rest of the season. It's a scrimmage. We lost a head coach, our QB and our best starting LB. There's no conclusion to be made from any play call, game result, etc. Most of these players won't be here next year and they know it.

Smith has done more to change up the players seeing snap counts than anyone in the last 25 years at PSU.
All the players are still there. Everyone has people hurt. Our head coach was a liability. They had a good second half yesterday. Don’t understand why we didn’t do more to get the first down and end the game though. Ak went into turtle mode at the end. Then we were in prevent defense which didn’t help either allowing Indiana to get a miracle catch in the end zone.
 
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Erial_Lion

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Then we were in prevent defense which didn’t help either allowing Indiana to get a miracle catch in the end zone.
To all the people criticizing the defense for playing a "prevent" at the end...did you actually watch the game? It's not like we played Cover 4 the entire last series, rushed 2 or 3, etc. I believe we rushed at least 4 every play, and blitzed several other times. The big play they hit down the middle looked like it was against a Tampa 2 (they hit it over the LB level and between the safeties). We had another play where we blitzed and pressed and gave up a potential big play over the top.

What about that defense was a "prevent"?
 
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razpsu

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To all the people criticizing the defense for playing a "prevent" at the end...did you actually watch the game? It's not like we played Cover 4 the entire last series, rushed 2 or 3, etc. I believe we rushed at least 4 every play, and blitzed several other times. The big play they hit down the middle looked like it was against a Tampa 2 (they hit it over the LB level and between the safeties). We had another play where we blitzed and pressed and gave up a potential big play over the top.

What about that defense was a "prevent"?
We rushed 5 (edit we rushed 4) and sacked him. Then we backed off of that. Dbs were moving back at the snap. Mendoza was struggling under pressure. Should have kept that up. Crowd was super loud on that series.happened right In front of me.to be fair the offense should have run the game out and never put the defense in that position.
 
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Erial_Lion

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We rushed 5 and sacked him. Then we backed off of that. Dbs were moving back at the snap. Mendoza was struggling under pressure. Should have kept that up. Crowd was super loud on that series.happened right In front of me.to be fair the offense should have run the game out and never put the defense in that position.
I just suffered through the last possession again to make sure I had it right...this is where you think we "rushed 5 and sacked him, then backed off of that"?

1st play: rushed the 4 D linemen and sacked him
2nd play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 22 yard pass
3rd play: spike
4th play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 13 yard pass
5th play: rushed either 5 or 6, Campbell started to come but didn't sell out on it because he likely had the RB who stayed in to block (or was spying), incomplete down the left
6th play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 29 yard pass
7th play: rushed 6, 17 yard pass down the left sideline
8th play: showed rushing 6, but looked like 2 D linemen were dropping out, pass batted down
9th play: showed rushing 8, 6 came and looked like 2 guys dropped (one was Campbell who slipped and almost picked it), Mack hit QB to force incompletion
10th play: showed 8, looks like 7 came and 1 of the D linemen was dropping, TD

That last possession had LOTS of pressure...wasn't at all a situation where we dropped into a "prevent" defense to give them time to carve us up.
 

razpsu

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I just suffered through the last possession again to make sure I had it right...this is where you think we "rushed 5 and sacked him, then backed off of that"?

1st play: rushed the 4 D linemen and sacked him
2nd play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 22 yard pass
3rd play: spike
4th play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 13 yard pass
5th play: rushed either 5 or 6, Campbell started to come but didn't sell out on it because he likely had the RB who stayed in to block (or was spying), incomplete down the left
6th play: rushed the 4 D linemen, 29 yard pass
7th play: rushed 6, 17 yard pass down the left sideline
8th play: showed rushing 6, but looked like 2 D linemen were dropping out, pass batted down
9th play: showed rushing 8, 6 came and looked like 2 guys dropped (one was Campbell who slipped and almost picked it), Mack hit QB to force incompletion
10th play: showed 8, looks like 7 came and 1 of the D linemen was dropping, TD

That last possession had LOTS of pressure...wasn't at all a situation where we dropped into a "prevent" defense to give them time to carve us up.
We rushed 4 on the first down and got home. Appreciate your sarcasm.
2nd and 17.
we start with this.4 dbs start 10 yards back plus. That is prevent. Do they go forward. Uh. No!! They go backwards.
Receiver catches the ball 18-19yards downfield and 4 backs are behind him. Even klatt said the short passes are there for Mendoza. Have a great night.
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Erial_Lion

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We rushed 4 on the first down and got home. Appreciate your sarcasm.
2nd and 17.
we start with this.4 dbs start 10 yards back plus. That is prevent. Do they go forward. Uh. No!! They go backwards.
Receiver catches the ball 18-19yards downfield and 4 backs are behind him. Even klatt said the short passes are there for Mendoza. Have a great night.
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I don’t even think we had a play called in on the 2nd and 17. Campbell was trying to yell at guys where to go as they snapped it…seemed like everyone was dropping due to the confusion. That play wasn’t indicative of anything that we were doing.
 

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We rushed 4 on the first down and got home. Appreciate your sarcasm.
2nd and 17.
we start with this.4 dbs start 10 yards back plus. That is prevent. Do they go forward. Uh. No!! They go backwards.
Receiver catches the ball 18-19yards downfield and 4 backs are behind him. Even klatt said the short passes are there for Mendoza. Have a great night.
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Nothing better to shut a loud mouth know it all than proof. Excellent job good Sir!
 
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Since we’re doing pictures, Is this an example of ā€œprevent defenseā€? Blitzing the LB and playing man (pressing on the outside) with Cover 1 over the top?

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razpsu

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I don’t even think we had a play called in on the 2nd and 17. Campbell was trying to yell at guys where to go as they snapped it…seemed like everyone was dropping due to the confusion. That play wasn’t indicative of anything that we were doing.
Exactly. The entire second half we hold them to 3 points then drop back and give up 30 plus yards in prevent. Thank you for proving my point that we switched up what we were doing so well in the second half. That led to two fluke catches near the end zone and in the end zone. They should never have gotten that far.
 
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razpsu

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Since we’re doing pictures, Is this an example of ā€œprevent defenseā€? Blitzing the LB and playing man (pressing on the outside) with Cover 1 over the top?

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Yep. This worked. Then The next play we drop 5, 5!!! 10 to 20 yards back and they catch another 20 yarder. Nice how you left that out. But you keep leaning into it. lol.
 

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Yep. This worked. Then The next play we drop 5, 5!!! 10 to 20 yards back and they catch another 20 yarder. Nice how you left that out. But you keep leaning into it. lol.
They sent 4 guys on go routes on that play…ideally, we would have had more help deep, but it was a great zone beater call. Nothing at all about our alignment pre-snap or the call itself leads towards ā€œpreventā€.



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razpsu

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They sent 4 guys on go routes on that play…ideally, we would have had more help deep, but it was a great zone beater call. Nothing at all about our alignment pre-snap or the call itself leads towards ā€œpreventā€.



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Dude. Give it up. That is prevent. We don’t check them or bump them and they run free. Their number 1 receiver was out the whole game. Our defense shut their other guys down for 58 minutes. Then we drop way back and they all look like Lynn swann and John stallworth. If you want to talk to yourself the rest of the way have at it.
I’m out!
 

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Dude. Give it up. That is prevent. We don’t check them or bump them and they run free. Their number 1 receiver was out the whole game. Our defense shut their other guys down for 58 minutes. Then we drop way back and they all look like Lynn swann and John stallworth. If you want to talk to yourself the rest of the way have at it.
I’m out!
He's a little petulant child who thinks he knows all about all sports šŸ˜‚. It's a guarantee he'll be yelling at clouds even after you undressed him on this repeatedly
 

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Dude. Give it up. That is prevent. We don’t check them or bump them and they run free. Their number 1 receiver was out the whole game. Our defense shut their other guys down for 58 minutes. Then we drop way back and they all look like Lynn swann and John stallworth. If you want to talk to yourself the rest of the way have at it.
I’m out!
Good since you are totally clueless.
 

razpsu

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Good since you are totally clueless.
Ok just one more with the help of tfrank.
ā€œHowever, the final drive lacked that intuition. After an initial sack, the team played soft zone coverage, giving Mendoza easy targets, getting into the red zone from his own 11-yard line in just four throwsā€
 

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All the players are still there. Everyone has people hurt. Our head coach was a liability. They had a good second half yesterday. Don’t understand why we didn’t do more to get the first down and end the game though. Ak went into turtle mode at the end. Then we were in prevent defense which didn’t help either allowing Indiana to get a miracle catch in the end zone.
The only play call I had an issue with was 3rd down with 2:09 left. No benefit to run the ball there because you only burn 9 seconds. So why run a tight set and only slip the TE out in the flat? It had no chance of getting a first down. Should have spread them out and made them cover 4-5 throw options. They struggled with that all game because their secondary isn't that athletic.
 

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I'll start on offense ... on that penultimate drive that allowed IU to have the ball toward the end of the game. After picking up a 1st down with an Allen run off tackle, our 1st down play has Allen lined up behind Grunk in the shotgun, with Rappleyea(!) lined up next to Grunk as the FB. We also have another lineman in there ... in motion. OK, so you're going to smash it to that side. Motioning lineman will come through and clear a path and Rappleyea follows to get any leftovers coming from the side, etc. Got it. Except Rappleyea doesn't lead the way, after the motioning lineman comes through ... actually, the motioning lineman paused at the A gap for a moment, then loops around to the outside, outside of the blocking WR. Rappleyea gums up the play, cutting across Grunk and holding up the handoff ... making Allen pause and lose momentum ... and then Rappleyea goes outside of the motioning lineman. So either the motioning lineman and Rappleyea both messed up, or Allen messed up and that play was meant to go to the outside. Or AK outsmarted himself by trying to create a diversion no one bought, and therefore left his lineman outnumbered on an inside handoff.

2nd play .. Dinkins and Rappleyea lined up next to Grunk with Allen behind ... Dinkins goes to the left to reset on the line ... Rappleyea again (this time from the other side of Grunk) goes to the outside as a faux outlet ... everyone on the left blocks down, pushing the mass toward where Allen wants to go ... Allen has too many stutters, a lineman loses his block and fills the one small hole that was there ... virtually no gain.

Why not use the mass of bodies to help your cause, rather than use them as diversions? On that second play, have Rappleyea lead and he can pick up that IU defender who shed his block and made the play?

3rd down we move everyone and their mother to the left side of the line and then rollout right ... Grunk has been successful passing in a stable pocket. When his feet have to move, he panics. Regardless, this play is designed to be a quick dump to the TE, forcing him to win a 1 on 1 with a defender to make any yardage at all. He doesn't.

I'm definitely not one of those old school "I want 3 yards and a close of dust" guys ... but if you want to run the clock and grind out a first ... do it with a strength. Don't divert and go to a weakness that only is not a weakness if the defense is fooled. Yeah, I would have rather seen them be aggressive and throw for a first, but if you're going to try to run it, do it in a way where the odds are default on your side, not hoping you can trick someone.
 

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Exactly. The entire second half we hold them to 3 points then drop back and give up 30 plus yards in prevent. Thank you for proving my point that we switched up what we were doing so well in the second half. That led to two fluke catches near the end zone and in the end zone. They should never have gotten that far.

The problem here is that you don't know what a prevent defense is.

Just being in a zone doesn't mean it's prevent.

1st play we rushed 4 and were in a Cover 2 ... not prevent.
2nd play, we weren't entirely ready, so we just went Cover 2 again.
3rd play spike
4th play cover 2 again
5th play, the CBs were up on the WRs and we brought 6 (incompletion ... but they had a receiver open deep Mendoza missed). Super risky.
6th play was actually Cover 3 ... that you can call prevent.
7th play DBs are up again and we bring 6 again ... great sideline catch at the 7.

So, while we did call some softer coverages, they weren't "prevent" (with 1 exception, possibly) and we did mix it up a bit.

We just failed.