They would be our 3rd best win behind UVA and Wake. We would be their best win by a pretty wide margin ahead of Missouri. If the D shows up at all (which is questionable) we win comfortably. We all know we will score on them.
We would be UK's best win and they would be our 3rd best win
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Based on ESPN’s FPI, UofL is #53 and UK is #38. UofL has a win over #37 Virginia which is one spot better than UK. UK has a win over Missouri, which is rated #32, 21 spots better than us.
Wake Forest is 51 in those rankings, so they are also not better than UK.
So using an objective metric rather than the subjective eye test, UofL has beaten one team better than UK (but we did that at home). UK also has one win against a team better than us, also at home.
We can win, but we did NOT win in our two road tests against similarly ranked teams (Miami is 33 and FSU is 47). A win in this game will be our best performance of the year.
Wake Forest is 51 in those rankings, so they are also not better than UK.
So using an objective metric rather than the subjective eye test, UofL has beaten one team better than UK (but we did that at home). UK also has one win against a team better than us, also at home.
We can win, but we did NOT win in our two road tests against similarly ranked teams (Miami is 33 and FSU is 47). A win in this game will be our best performance of the year.
I used the Sagarin ratings:
UL: #47
UK: #48
We have wins over #32 (UVA) and #49 (Wake) while their best win is over #52 (Missouri). So, technically we would still be their best win and they would be our 2nd best, but essentially equal to the Wake win.
UL: #47
UK: #48
We have wins over #32 (UVA) and #49 (Wake) while their best win is over #52 (Missouri). So, technically we would still be their best win and they would be our 2nd best, but essentially equal to the Wake win.
I get what you’re saying, but Missouri isn’t better than us.
I think we can all agree that any metric that ranks that putrid Missouri team 21 spots ahead of UL is flawed to the point of being useless.
we might get the chance to find out. They are 5-6 with a game left against Arkansas and are still awaiting an NCAA decision on their Bowl ban appeal.
Saragin also has the ACC as the 6th ranked conference behind the AAC, which is obviously false. So really any particular measure you can find is flawed.
I mean Missouri in my mind is about like any team we play. Average Power 5 teams are average power 5 teams.
We are 7-4 against a average power 5 schedule and sUcKs is 6-5 against an average power 5 schedule. Not much you can take. They’ve lost some games they regret, we’ve lost games we regret. We beat teams we are better than, they’ve beat teams they are better than.
It’s a crapshoot to judge by analytics. We put up big points and can’t stop anyone. They hold the ball a long time and don’t score and hold every team they play to low point totals.
It comes down to can our offensive line hold their own against their front guys are probably are the 4/5th best group by talent we’ve played. And that stat about Micale not handling the blitz well, I bet Stoopy will send pressure. Gotta block em!
They’re not as talented as Clemson or Notre Dame. But I’d say they’re similar to a Miami or Virginia.
We played about 80 snaps this week and they got a rest against an OVC team. We have to capitalize when we get the ball, because they will move the chains and eat clock.
Their offense is like a Georgia Tech right now where it’s hard to prepare for in one week. And there’s not a lot of film on what they can bring out. That backup QB could have some drives and they could throw some option stuff we won’t have on film.
Sagarin seems more accurate. Mizzou has been a colossal disappointment this year.
Lol....it'll be a good win when the Cats finally break the home schneid this year. Won't be a pretty game, but Stoops likes the grind.
The two conferences are out of kilter again this year....SEC it's LSU, Georgia, Bama and Florida pretty much in that order with Auburn coming on.....then everybody else except Vandy and Arkansas jammed up. ACC has one truly exceptional team then everyone else is a juggle.
SEC has a couple good wins OOC, but some stinkers as well. Haven't kept up with the ACC in OOC.
It'll be the Cats best win this year against a P5 team.
Glad to have it
The two conferences are out of kilter again this year....SEC it's LSU, Georgia, Bama and Florida pretty much in that order with Auburn coming on.....then everybody else except Vandy and Arkansas jammed up. ACC has one truly exceptional team then everyone else is a juggle.
SEC has a couple good wins OOC, but some stinkers as well. Haven't kept up with the ACC in OOC.
It'll be the Cats best win this year against a P5 team.
Glad to have it
ACC teams went 0-5 against Notre Dame this year. Virginia Tech played them the best of all of the ACC teams, losing 21-20 at Notre Dame.
The best P5 conference wins in the non-conference have been Clemson against Texas A&M and North Carolina over South Carolina. Wake Forest also won their “non-conference” game against North Carolina. The only other nonconference P5 win was BC’s against Rutgers.
UKAY’s Super Bowl is once again the “Louisville Cardinals”. We as Cards fans get it as it always has been but I suspect that CSS and company are way ahead of us.
This game comes down to their Oline. It is better than Louisville’s front 7. Louisville can’t get gashed. They have to be great in the red zone force field goals. Yeast is out. It is not a good matchup.
I have no idea how good UK’s defense is they have played terrible offenses all year. They got Georgia in a monsoon. Louisville will be the best offense they have faced. I think Virginia and Miami defenses are comparable.
UK should win they are in the 8th or so season with their staff. They lose this game to a 1st year staff ouch.
I have no idea how good UK’s defense is they have played terrible offenses all year. They got Georgia in a monsoon. Louisville will be the best offense they have faced. I think Virginia and Miami defenses are comparable.
UK should win they are in the 8th or so season with their staff. They lose this game to a 1st year staff ouch.
Agreed. I think I read that stoops still has a losing record yet being in his 7th or 8th year in addition to playing 8 home games most years.
Every one is talking about stopping their run which will be a tall task. However, I look for gran to start with some short passes and to use the tight end over the middle probably in the red zone.
Getting their QB a Passing TD would be demoralizing to our defense. Sure hope CSS and staff are prepared for this look.
I agree that a UK trying a passing attack of any kind would be somewhat of a "surprise" to our defensive game plan, but I just don't see UK trying that. They haven't shown a tendency to do that, or to be very successful passing when they've been forced to do it. I actually look for UK to try to stuff it down our throats with the running game from the first snap til the last, only attempting to pass when necessary. I think their plan will be ball and clock control, keeping our offense off the field as much as possible, and wearing our defense down.
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They have protected their defense with their running game. Their defense hasn’t been on the field much. This is another factor in evaluating their defense. They have played bad offenses and limited the number of times those offenses get the ball.
Their defense is good enough as it is now limit a teams possessions it puts a ton of pressure on the other offense to be productive.
Why would a supposed “vastly superior” team feel the need to “change” their DNA for one game? Especially for a D as vulnerable to the run as ours has been?
They WANT to come out and show their strength.
We just need a stop, or two (or three
) and get ahead of them. FORCE them to change because we made them. Then the pressure is as much on their O as it is our D.
If this happens, they will lose composure and we win easy.
If it doesn’t we have a problem. I don’t like us in a slugfest.
They WANT to come out and show their strength.
We just need a stop, or two (or three
) and get ahead of them. FORCE them to change because we made them. Then the pressure is as much on their O as it is our D. If this happens, they will lose composure and we win easy.
If it doesn’t we have a problem. I don’t like us in a slugfest.
A couple of comments and a simple question....
We have played and lost to Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami.
We have played and beaten Eastern, Western, Boston College, Wake Forest, North Carolina State, Virginia and Syracuse.
Which group of teams does Kentucky look most like?
It’s that simple. Kentucky is more like Virginia and Boston College then it is any of the four teams that beat us.
We have played and lost to Notre Dame, Florida State, Clemson, and Miami.
We have played and beaten Eastern, Western, Boston College, Wake Forest, North Carolina State, Virginia and Syracuse.
Which group of teams does Kentucky look most like?
It’s that simple. Kentucky is more like Virginia and Boston College then it is any of the four teams that beat us.
You might want to take Miami out of that discussion at the top with losses to Georgia Tech and FIU. Yeah and not Florida State either.
I’d put
0-2 Tier 1-Powerhouses and we got blown away
Clemson & Notre Dame
3-2 Tier 2-Team that are average to good
Virginia, Wake, Miami, FSU, KenSucky, Boston College
4-0 Tier 3-garbage and lower level
Syracuse, NC State, WKU, EKU
So I’d say they’re in the middle. Now the game Saturday will show if they’re closer to a Miami or a Boston College. Now in Tier 2 we are 1-2 on the road. And I’d say Saturday will be the first fires up road crowd we’ve seen all year, which that could be good or bad for our guys as some thrive against charged up crowds.
If you go by results and type of players, I’d compare them to Miami. Miami is inconsistent and led by a defensive guy. Both teams played Florida close and should’ve won. But both also have some stinker games. The line play for both is strong compare to us.
Now the difference is that they’re going to not pass the ball, but be a Georgia Tech level of difficulty to prepare for and they’ll hit. If we can find the right mojo to stop them, we win. If they start pushing us back it will be a long day.
Bu bu bu but...they play in the SEC....the SEC east that is. I have never seen another school pound that conference drum as much as those clowns, no to mention they use it as an excuse for any of their failures. They cant even take care of Tennessee and Florida when they are historically down.