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Brown needs to absorb the fact that it is time to transition to Greene. It sucks that he has put this **** off so long. Greene will likely barely see the field unless Doege gets hurt or we are getting destroyed. Not an ideal game to transition on.
 

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Brown needs to absorb the fact that it is time to transition to Greene. It sucks that he has put this **** off so long. Greene will likely barely see the field unless Doege gets hurt or we are getting destroyed. Not an ideal game to transition on.
Rather see Crowder
 

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Or.
Greene sucks that bad he doesn’t have another choice.
Haven’t seen anything verifiable that Greene is a better QB.
Unfortunately this means that there are obvious QB development issues with this staff. But you don’t throw everything out because of one part is bad.
 
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Or.
Greene sucks that bad he doesn’t have another choice.
Haven’t seen anything verifiable that Greene is a better QB.
Unfortunately this means that there are obvious QB development issues with this staff. But you don’t throw everything out because of one part is bad.

Well if Doege is the best we got, his play this year does not warrant sacrificing reps for players that will actually be on the roster next year.
 

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Well if Doege is the best we got, his play this year does not warrant sacrificing reps for players that will actually be on the roster next year.
Might make sense to you
But not to anyone with half a brain.
Transfer portal.
Brown will play the best he has. Attack the coach for not playing the correct QB is a pretty old troll move
But when you do it after a win. Just seems a little obvious
 

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Greene is not better at this point. I dont get how our fanbase could think overwise. I get everyone loves the back-up, but come on people.
 
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Greene is not better at this point. I dont get how our fanbase could think overwise. I get everyone loves the back-up, but come on people.

It's not a matter of if he is better, it's a matter of how bad Doege is. If Doege gives us a real shot at an 8 or better win season, then play him. Even this game kind of shows that if WVU does make it to 8 wins it may be DESPITE him. Either way, if the best Doege can manage is a level of play that will have WVU struggling for 6 wins, it's more valuable to the program to have someone who will be on the roster next year get meaningful reps than an extra 1-2 wins in a forgettable season.
 
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Might make sense to you
But not to anyone with half a brain.
Transfer portal.
Brown will play the best he has. Attack the coach for not playing the correct QB is a pretty old troll move
But when you do it after a win. Just seems a little obvious

Makes sense to anyone that is not a dick head. Doege is a senior and gone after this year. If his level of play has WVU struggling to get over the 6 win mark, then as the program goes that is not worth sacrificing a season worth of meaningful playing time for a player that will actually be on the roster next year.
 

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Makes sense to anyone that is not a dick head. Doege is a senior and gone after this year. If his level of play has WVU struggling to get over the 6 win mark, then as the program goes that is not worth sacrificing a season worth of meaningful playing time for a player that will actually be on the roster next year.
Some people never played NCAA 2005 Dynasty mode. When your roster is over the limit, you cut the 83 rated senior in favor of the 81 freshman.
 

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Greene is not better at this point. I dont get how our fanbase could think overwise. I get everyone loves the back-up, but come on people.
Ok. Let’s suppose GG is 80% the passer Doege is. He is 200% the runner Doege is. Plus GG’s passing will improve with playing time. Doege is exactly what he is and will not improve by any significant amount.
 

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Ok. Let’s suppose GG is 80% the passer Doege is. He is 200% the runner Doege is. Plus GG’s passing will improve with playing time. Doege is exactly what he is and will not improve by any significant amount.
Incorrect
Seniors don’t improve?
QBs in the NFL improve. Like talking with people who have worms eating their mind
 

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Ok. Let’s suppose GG is 80% the passer Doege is. He is 200% the runner Doege is. Plus GG’s passing will improve with playing time. Doege is exactly what he is and will not improve by any significant amount.
Doege knows the offense. He does a better job of knowing where his receivers will be so that he can avoid throwing the ball to that area.
 

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Greene is not better at this point. I dont get how our fanbase could think overwise. I get everyone loves the back-up, but come on people.
It's not about that. It's about him giving us another dimension with play calling. Like it or not he is a huge key to our success without being a starter.

You can teach Greene to throw.

Gonna teach Doege to run?
 

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It's not about that. It's about him giving us another dimension with play calling. Like it or not he is a huge key to our success without being a starter.

You can teach Greene to throw.

Gonna teach Doege to run?
SO you want to play the quarterback that can't throw over the one that can?

Makes perfect sense.
 

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Guy is trying to win games right now
Can always get a transfer portal QB next year

Greene obviously isn’t the guy. Would have won the job already if he was
 

steeleer

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Incorrect
Seniors don’t improve?
QBs in the NFL improve. Like talking with people who have worms eating their mind
Improved arm strength? Speed? Really?!? A 10% bump at this point in his career would be huge. That won’t be nearly enough.

He literally lacks the fundamental measurable skills to succeed as a starting QB at this level.
 

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Pretend that isn't a variable. For Christ's sake, Dana hired a DC (eFore) because he was his drinking buddy.

When all reasonable causes for a stupid decision are eliminated, only unreasonable options remain.

Once again there is no evidence that Greene is anywhere near the QB that Doege is.
If there was I would be in agreement. There isn’t so I see why Doege is still the starter.
Like I said earlier. You might need a change at QB coach because the issue could be development.
As of right now Doege provides WVU the best chance at winning football games. He might not be an All Big 12 QB but he is the best option. I believe if this changes Brown would make a change.

Frustrating to watch a QB almost throw away the game. But with QBs. There comes a point where mistakes will happen. If they continue to happen you get a new one because that means they cannot improve
 

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If we do. I would like to bring in this brother you are hating on. Even if it isn’t for the QB coach position. Everyone at USC getting replaced.
The QB he brought into USC is good. Jaxson Dart.
 

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If you want I can bring up the tweets from his Dad. That Seth believed in his son. Recruited him for USC.
Low 3 star QB who ended up rising the rankings. Looked unbelievable today in his start
 

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If we do. I would like to bring in this brother you are hating on. Even if it isn’t for the QB coach position. Everyone at USC getting replaced.
The QB he brought into USC is good. Jaxson Dart.

I'm not hating on his brother. I just don't think that relationship should be affecting who is starting QB at WVU any more than one's ability to do a keg stand should determine if they become a DC at a P5 school.

There is no way you can say Greene is a worse thrower than Doege. He's gotten no legitimate opportunity to show what he can do live and that is 100% Brown's fault.
At any time, was WVU at risk of losing to LIU? Then why did't Greene play at least the entire second half?!? It defies any and all logic. When you are emotionally invested in a player (on a personal level) you do stupid **** like that.
 

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I'm not hating on his brother. I just don't think that relationship should be affecting who is starting QB at WVU any more than one's ability to do a keg stand should determine if they become a DC at a P5 school.

There is no way you can say Greene is a worse thrower than Doege. He's gotten no legitimate opportunity to show what he can do live and that is 100% Brown's fault.
At any time, was WVU at risk of losing to LIU? Then why did't Greene play at least the entire second half?!? It defies any and all logic. When you are emotionally invested in a player (on a personal level) you do stupid **** like that.

You are looking for guilt without evidence
Meaning there is nothing there to say that Greene is a better QB but you want to find reasoning that he is.
Not even trusting any of the coaches who have watched a lot more football than you plus watched these QBs throw a lot more balls

Don’t think his relationship with his brother changes anything for WVU right now.
You are acting like it is a horrible thing. When it really isn’t. There is a chance that he can come to WVU.
There is evidence to say that Doege is an excellent evaluator of QBs. Something that is obviously missing on this staff..
At least evaluating the QBs they can get.
 

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I'm not hating on his brother. I just don't think that relationship should be affecting who is starting QB at WVU any more than one's ability to do a keg stand should determine if they become a DC at a P5 school.

There is no way you can say Greene is a worse thrower than Doege. He's gotten no legitimate opportunity to show what he can do live and that is 100% Brown's fault.
At any time, was WVU at risk of losing to LIU? Then why did't Greene play at least the entire second half?!? It defies any and all logic. When you are emotionally invested in a player (on a personal level) you do stupid **** like that.
You are looking for guilt without evidence
Meaning there is nothing there to say that Greene is a better QB but you want to find reasoning that he is.
Not even trusting any of the coaches who have watched a lot more football than you plus watched these QBs throw a lot more balls

Don’t think his relationship with his brother changes anything for WVU right now.
You are acting like it is a horrible thing. When it really isn’t. There is a chance that he can come to WVU.
There is evidence to say that Doege is an excellent evaluator of QBs. Something that is obviously missing on this staff..
At least evaluating the QBs they can get.
You guys should have John Moore aka @Rootmaster settle this debate for you. I am sure he will show up like clockwork after the next loss.
 

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It is a talent issue

People had high hopes for Greene.
Still could happen. Not going to completely dismiss him

But to think you have coaches who would jeopardize their careers for relationships would be incorrect
There is only one coach that I know of who was fired because he didn’t replace someone. That was Les Miles at LSU with Cam Cameron. He knew that guy forever. Was more about how he saw football as well