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Rogue Cock

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Wow, that is heavily redacted. You are right in that this provides nothing relevant or meaningful on the issues involved.
 
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Rogue Cock said:
Wow, that is heavily redacted. You are right in that this provides nothing relevant or meaningful on the issues involved.
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I believe the most relevant material for FSU is on page 164 regarding the extension of the agreement. FSU contends it ends in 2027. Too redacted to say.
 
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Rogue Cock said:
Waste of time IMO. They aren’t near the stage that mediation will have any chance of success.
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The ACC is not currently in a position where they feel they have a need to mediate. Mediation will not become a reality until there is pressure of potential loss.
 
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Rogue Cock said:
Waste of time IMO. They aren’t near the stage that mediation will have any chance of success.
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Yeah, this is only happening because a judge ordered them to enter mediation. And mediation, unlike arbitration, does not decide any outcome.
 
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Wish the ACC would dissolve. Then the SEC can pick who they want.
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I think that’s a lot closer to happening than people care to admit. If the stuff about the contract and GOr having to be resigned for an extension is true that’s problems for the ACC.

I really think now it’s going to come down to the exit fee. ESPN and the ACC misrepresented what the GOr actually said. Again if all this is true and there is a lot of fire that it is. Also questionable as to whether the extension could have been granted without an acc vote. To me those are two major things working against the ACC.
 
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Yard_Pimps said:
I think that’s a lot closer to happening than people care to admit. If the stuff about the contract and GOr having to be resigned for an extension is true that’s problems for the ACC.

I really think now it’s going to come down to the exit fee. ESPN and the ACC misrepresented what the GOr actually said. Again if all this is true and there is a lot of fire that it is. Also questionable as to whether the extension could have been granted without an acc vote. To me those are two major things working against the ACC.
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And if it happens, I can see Clemson and FSU in the SEC. No SEC team will take a pay cut. If the ACC dissolves, no SEC team will have to take a pay cut. All that's my opinion.
 
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KingWard said:
Nobody in the SEC is going to take a pay cut. It's not the ACC.
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Agree. When, in the past, I have expressed doubts about FSU and Clem coming into the SEC, it's on the basis of payouts. Make it happen without SEC teams taking a pay cut, bringing them into the SEC is doable (not guaranteed though, even with no pay cuts). As I've said numerous times in the past, I selfishly want Clemson in the SEC because their easy path to the playoffs would be OVER!!!!!! There are 8 or 9 "Florida States" in the SEC already. Consequently, a significant recruiting tool advantage for them would disappear. All one has to do is see what has happened to Nebraska's previously powerhouse football program and national brand name since they traded conferences. The Huskers are not the same program they were 20-25 years ago, not even close. Texas A&M won 18 conference football championships prior to joining the SEC. Arkansas won 13. Neither has won a conference championship in the SEC.
 
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