I came across Game 3 of the 1976 NLCS on YouTube and thought I'd ask those Phillies fans that remember, were the Phillies better with Dave Cash & Larry Bowa or Manny Trillo & Larry Bowa? How did they compare? Thank you in advance.
Were the Phillies better with Cash & Bowa or Trillo & Bowa?
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Initial thoughts are better hitting team with Dave Cash and better defensive team with Trillo. Trillo IMHO wielded a wicked glove at 2nd base and had a really strong arm to turn 2 or relay to home.
I was a Bobby Murcer guy, so I went from the Yanks to the Giants to the Cubs. Trillo was on those Cubs teams. Solid defensively, but not much of a bat (not nearly as bad as Bowa though). He could get streaky. I think he was leading the league in hitting for a long while one season, but he couldn't sustain it. I'd take Cash if we needed runs. And you always need runs.
Wasn't Cookie Rojas, one of the few baseball players to man every position in a single game?
After thinking about it, Cash couldn't hit me if I ran through the batters box. I'd take Trillo.
Manny Trillo. Look up his fielding %. That is no knock on Dave Cash, either. I was a season ticket holder from 1973 to 1984, so I saw them play.
I was a Phillies fan since I was a young lad in the early/mid 60's.
Dave Cash was a hitting machine who brought the Pirates WINNING tradition with him.
Pete Rose came aboard, and gave Schmitty, Luzinski, and Bowa a "Big Red Machine" kick in the *** and won the '80 World Series!
Manny Trillo was a great 2nd baseman, and had quite a few big hits during his time with the Phillies.
Tough call between Cash and Trillo. Phils had much better pitching when Trillo was there. Loved Cash, but, going Trillo here, by a hair.
Dave Cash was a hitting machine who brought the Pirates WINNING tradition with him.
Pete Rose came aboard, and gave Schmitty, Luzinski, and Bowa a "Big Red Machine" kick in the *** and won the '80 World Series!
Manny Trillo was a great 2nd baseman, and had quite a few big hits during his time with the Phillies.
Tough call between Cash and Trillo. Phils had much better pitching when Trillo was there. Loved Cash, but, going Trillo here, by a hair.
Maybe, but I think I remember Cesar Tovar from the Twins doing it also.
Bert Campy Campaneris played all nine positions in a game in 1965.
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Bert Campaneris Plays All Nine Positions In Game (Sept. 8, 1965)
In 1965, the Kansas City A’s were on their way to a 103-loss season. In order to draw crowds, A’s owner Charlie O. Finley came up with “Campy Campaneris Night,” in which his young…
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I saw both play and the sabermetrics are pretty spot on Cash gets the nod even with Trillio playing a half year more( 81 Strike)
This is their years with the Phils
Cash actually had a better defensive War and Runs Fielding than Trillo yet Trillo gets GG's with the Phils??
Yes because the winner of the GG the prior 5 years that covered Dave Cash stint with the Phillies was.............. Joe Morgan..... who is 34-35 years old when Trillo wins his with the Phillies
When Morgan wins Cash stats are even better the 3 years with the Phils ---- Criminal that he doesnt win it in 74--- in 76 even Trillo/Stennent was better than Morgan --- so maybe the gold glove is popularity contest in a lot of ways Winning teams??? or just based on Fld Pct as the main metric at the time????
Trillo GG wins nothing stands out for him against his peers 79 probably is the winner--- 82 maybe but its not clear statically
Morgan wins GG all 3 years
Trillo wins GG 79, 81 (strike shortened) , 82
Doug Flynn wins 80
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He played 8 in one game and all during his career. Bert Campaneris and Cesar Tovar I believe accomplished that?
Yes, I knew there a few others but a rare occurrence.Bert Campy Campaneris played all nine positions in a game in 1965.
Bert Campaneris Plays All Nine Positions In Game (Sept. 8, 1965)
In 1965, the Kansas City A’s were on their way to a 103-loss season. In order to draw crowds, A’s owner Charlie O. Finley came up with “Campy Campaneris Night,” in which his young…