What is the answer.......

[Bubs72]

This has probably been hashed and rehashed a million times here, but lets discuss it again. There is no doubt that CBB is down this year, but that happens from time to time. Some years talent is thick and there are lots of incoming freshmen that can play, other years, that talent does translate so well and we get left with a season like this; no seemingly dominant teams, although I think Nova looks to be in the drivers seat right now.

So what is that answer? The NBA is never going the route of the NFL and not allowing the kids to go right out of HS and staying at least 3 years. But, if they create a go right out of HS or stay at least two years rule, don't you all think it damages CBB more? I mean, how many of this years incoming freshmen would have committed to two years over making millions at 18 years old? Not that I blame them, I would much rather be cashing checks than having to get up and go to English 101.

How does the NBA and the NCAA fix this problem or do they?

 

[John Henry]

I don't have a problem with kids going straight out of high school to the NBA. College basketball will adjust just like they did when Moses Malone, Daryl Dawkins, Labron and others went straight to the league.

Kentucky can win big without a one and done rule. Coach Cal can win big without a one and done rule. We might have to adjust our recruiting since our program has depended on one and done's with Cal as our coach but we will adjust and we will win championships.

 

[docholiday51]

I think right out of high school or two years in college would help college basketball in the long run.College basketball can't miss whoever wasn't there in the first place.Coaches can and will very quickly develop a 2 year plan(Cal will be on the cutting edge of this) Let's do this and get it over with,OAD has run it's course,the players and their handlers have evolved to the point that OAD is not working and hurting both pro and college basketball.In other words players not Cal or K or any other coaches did it.The Zions,Bagleys Bambas Aytons Diallos and maybe Knoxs of the world did the damage.

 

[Whatsup]

This has probably been hashed and rehashed a million times here, but lets discuss it again. There is no doubt that CBB is down this year, but that happens from time to time. Some years talent is thick and there are lots of incoming freshmen that can play, other years, that talent does translate so well and we get left with a season like this; no seemingly dominant teams, although I think Nova looks to be in the drivers seat right now.

So what is that answer? The NBA is never going the route of the NFL and not allowing the kids to go right out of HS and staying at least 3 years. But, if they create a go right out of HS or stay at least two years rule, don't you all think it damages CBB more? I mean, how many of this years incoming freshmen would have committed to two years over making millions at 18 years old? Not that I blame them, I would much rather be cashing checks than having to get up and go to English 101.

How does the NBA and the NCAA fix this problem or do they?

Jesus Christ.

 

[docholiday51]

Jesus Christ.

He's the answer to most everything but college basketball may not be near the top of his priority list.

 

[Wallins Creek cat]

Balance recruiting. If you have 6 spots take 4 with one and done potential and the other 2 with shooting skills and high basketball IQ. Each group will learn from the other. Look at last 10 NCAA champions how many of those were all freshman and 2 sophomores?

That my friends are what we are all freshman and 2 sophomores.

 

[Bubs72]

Jesus Christ.

What?? I just asked a question.

All you have to do is look at the scores from games every night to see that CBB is having a down year, or years. I don't have a problem with players leaving early, I don't blame them. I wouldn't want to play for free when I can get millions for doing the same thing. I think it's a problem when the NBA and NCAA won't let them decide for themselves, all I'm saying is that the OAD rule is a joke. Either let them go right out of high school or don't, but making them play one year isn't doing anyone any favors.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Let the kids make money so that they don't immediately jump at the NBA.

But they'll never do that because it ruins the NCAA's billion dollar scheme. It's just proof that what they're really about isn't education or the product on the floor. It's profit, and they'll do what maximizes profit.

The NBA is as well, but they admit it. They're a business. They should be about profit.

 

[Kybluedude]

I think Cal has already adjusted it's just hasnt registered with fans. Bridge year.

 

[BlueBomb]

Jesus Christ.

I thought that maybe he could help as well.

Jesus once recruited two guys who were REALLY good at what they did -- Simon Peter and Andrew. They were five-star fishermen.

But Jesus sold them on being faithful to him (the coach) instead of running off to the Israeli Fishing League -- the IFL -- after one year.

And you know what? Those two dudes stuck with him for three years. Or until he died. Simon Peter and Andrew were all about the names on the FRONT of the jersey.

It's all about what you're selling. Jesus -- that dude was a good salesman.

 

[CELTICAT]

I thought that maybe he could help as well.

Jesus once recruited two guys who were REALLY good at what they did -- Simon Peter and Andrew. They were five-star fishermen.

But Jesus sold them on being faithful to him (the coach) instead of running off to the Israeli Fishing League -- the IFL -- after one year.

And you know what? Those two dudes stuck with him for three years. Or until he died.

It's all about what you're selling. Jesus was a good salesman.

Andrew founded the Orthodox Church as the Bishop of Byzantium, and Peter founded the Catholic Church as the Bishop of Rome. Not many diaper dandies have legacies that last 2,000+ years.

 

[JC43]

I hope the NBA keeps it the way it is, I would wait til La Var ball and co. Go bankrupt. , Then the NBA can get rid of the rule. At least a minimum age of 18.

 

[BlueBomb]

I'm perfectly fine with kids going straight to the NBA. BUT, if they commit to a college, I'd like to see them have to stay at least two years.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

I don't have a problem with kids going straight out of high school to the NBA. College basketball will adjust just like they did when Moses Malone, Daryl Dawkins, Labron and others went straight to the league.

Kentucky can win big without a one and done rule. Coach Cal can win big without a one and done rule. We might have to adjust our recruiting since our program has depended on one and done's with Cal as our coach but we will adjust and we will win championships.

Agree.

Coach Cal was a leader in adjusting to the new NBA rules 10+ years ago, and I would hope, expect, that he would be once again, to whatever the new rules become.

The NBA can go multiple paths, each with a different effect on the college game. I think college basketball will do just fine, regardless of what path the NBA takes. Sure there could be more or less "elite" players. But there will always be good players in college ball. There will always be players who develop late, players who are good but undersized for the NBA, or players who are good but not athletic enough for the NBA. UK should be able to get the best of whomever the college player pool will include.

 

[Ben101er]

Don't know the answer, because I am not sure I understood the question.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Curious... but could it be the way the SEC is officiated that, at the very least, just isn't conducive to freshman trying to learn the game?

I know WVU is in a free fall, but they are still a VERY good and a VERY capable team. We went into THEIR house and snatched a win from them, and the calls weren't too glaringly one way or the other (from what I saw).. meanwhile, we go to USCjr and Mizz and half our team winds up in foul trouble.

We had a better chance to beat a very good WVU at their house than a bottom feeder SEC team at theirs.. That says something.

 

[The_Answer1313_rivals]

I feel like I hear this every year tho. College basketball is "down"........or the bubble is "very large" this year.

Honestly, I'm not sure it is.

Maybe in terms of pure raw talent. But we are in a year where one team (Villanova) is putting up the best offensive numbers in the history of the game. You have another team this year (Virginia) that's putting up the best defensive numbers in the history of the game.

I don't necessarily see it as down. Your bluebloods (Kentucky, Kansas, UNC) might be a bit down for their standards but as a whole?

I'm not sure it is.

 

[kevcat]

What is the answer?

Shine on us all set us free
Love is the answer

 

[Elliott Tim]

I think right out of high school or two years in college would help college basketball in the long run.College basketball can't miss whoever wasn't there in the first place.Coaches can and will very quickly develop a 2 year plan(Cal will be on the cutting edge of this) Let's do this and get it over with,OAD has run it's course,the players and their handlers have evolved to the point that OAD is not working and hurting both pro and college basketball.In other words players not Cal or K or any other coaches did it.The Zions,Bagleys Bambas Aytons Diallos and maybe Knoxs of the world did the damage.

Sounds like you

I think right out of high school or two years in college would help college basketball in the long run.College basketball can't miss whoever wasn't there in the first place.Coaches can and will very quickly develop a 2 year plan(Cal will be on the cutting edge of this) Let's do this and get it over with,OAD has run it's course,the players and their handlers have evolved to the point that OAD is not working and hurting both pro and college basketball.In other words players not Cal or K or any other coaches did it.The Zions,Bagleys Bambas Aytons Diallos and maybe Knoxs of the world did the damage.

Good post.

 

[irishcat1965]

Curious... but could it be the way the SEC is officiated that, at the very least, just isn't conducive to freshman trying to learn the game?

I know WVU is in a free fall, but they are still a VERY good and a VERY capable team. We went into THEIR house and snatched a win from them, and the calls weren't too glaringly one way or the other (from what I saw).. meanwhile, we go to USCjr and Mizz and half our team winds up in foul trouble.

We had a better chance to beat a very good WVU at their house than a bottom feeder SEC team at theirs.. That says something.

And WVU destroyed a good KSU team last weekend by 30 points.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

And WVU destroyed a good KSU team last weekend by 30 points.

Good point. I just wonder.. it's not often you see Kentucky lose outright. Almost half our losses are because of an abundance of fouls or bad calls. When Kentucky is allowed to play, they are hard to beat and they'll run you out of the gym.

SEC officiating slows the game down and that seems to burn Kentucky quite often. You're just not going to win many games when half your team is in foul trouble.. and that includes Villanova, Kansas, Duke, etc..

 

[Cbbcrazy2]

Is college basketball down, or not having all the blue bloods at the top lead us to believe it is down ? Purdue and Nova are really good teams, I would say right now that one of these has the best chance to win it all. I know college basketball is down for me when Kentucky is not in the top 5 at the end of the regular season. Your thoughts ?

 

[kevcat]

Is college basketball down, or not having all the blue bloods at the top lead us to believe it is down ? Purdue and Nova are really good teams, I would say right now that one of these has the best chance to win it all. I know college basketball is down for me when Kentucky is not in the top 5 at the end of the regular season. Your thoughts ?

Every single year we hear that it’s a down year for college basketball.

I don’t really think so.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Well "down" is not always the same as "Balanced". I don't think it's a stretch to say that there aren't as many elite teams tis year as years past. When UVA, Purdue and Villanova are the top of the list, that kind of says something about the top.

But it is fact that the 2017/18 season has seen more rotation in the top25. The last undefeated team went down earlier than usual. It's definitely a more balanced year, but that doesn't mean it's a down year.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Also, if you're a fan of the game itself.. you'd be crazy to not be salivating over March Madness this year.. talk about pandemonium. You're going to see a lot of upsets. The 11 and 12 seeds are much closer to the 5 and 6 seeds than what we're used to.

I'll take a "down" year all day long..

 

[Whatsup]

I thought that maybe he could help as well.

Jesus once recruited two guys who were REALLY good at what they did -- Simon Peter and Andrew. They were five-star fishermen.

But Jesus sold them on being faithful to him (the coach) instead of running off to the Israeli Fishing League -- the IFL -- after one year.

And you know what? Those two dudes stuck with him for three years. Or until he died. Simon Peter and Andrew were all about the names on the FRONT of the jersey.

It's all about what you're selling. Jesus -- that dude was a good salesman.

Loved your post.

 

[weatherbird]

Well, to continue on the thoughts above, I'm not so sure that college basketball really is down. I believe, like many above, it is just more balanced. And the point about the bluebloods not being at the top has merit as well. The truth is, there isn't much difference between talent and experience. The talented young guys make more mistakes, but they have more talent to make up for their mistakes. The experience reduces the amount of mistakes made, but those guys generally don't have the talent to make up for the mistakes they do make. In the end, it is all a wash.

But to the question at hand, they should let the kids go straight outta high school. But they should also institute a pay scale for that. There should be a set amount of money that the players make based on draft position and age. As an example, let's say the #1 draft pick is set at 12 million at age 24. This means that if that draft pick is an 18 year old, then his contract is 2 mil/yr for 6 years. If it is a 21 year old Junior from college, then he gets 4 mil/yr for 3 years. Regardless, their earning potential is set until they are 24. The reason being, it is less enticing for these guys to jump as quick as possible, and it ensures that the NBA ends up paying for talent instead of hype.