And by the way, he’s won nothing in 14 years here. He’s 0-13 against Georgia. Still hasn’t beaten Chumlee at Tennessee. Hasn’t even played in a conference championship game. Mizzou has played in 2 since joining the league.
If he refuses to step down, we make his time around program absolute hell. Obviously not bother him or family on personal level but let the boos and obscenities fly at Kroger!He looks absolutely miserable. Someone who cares about him should get in his ear and suggest he negotiates a buyout himself.
I get it. He can force UK’s hand, but why? He’s got more money than he will ever need. Go to Mitch and offer to take half the promised buyout to walk at the end of the season.
Sure, he could get the entire thing by waiting it out but is it worth it? That’s years of being miserable. Offer to take $15 million or whatever and enjoy life.
Wish this wasn’t the case but it’s spot on.Not a single decent program wants Mark Stoops. The only school dumb enough to pay him $9 million a year, to be 1-11 in his last 12 conference games, is, uh, well, Kentucky.
He was able to rid us of Cal without paying him a penny....despite a lifetime contract. I trust MB to do something similar with Stoopsid.Thanks Mitch for your great negation skills
It’s unbelievable we are in this spot with a coach who isn’t even .500 now overall.Thanks Mitch for your great negation skills
Brother idk how to tell you this but stoops is not the first UK coach to not make an SEC title game. In fact we’ve never ever made it once in our historyAnd by the way, he’s won nothing in 14 years here. He’s 0-13 against Georgia. Still hasn’t beaten Chumlee at Tennessee. Hasn’t even played in a conference championship game. Mizzou has played in 2 since joining the league.
He was able to rid us of Cal without paying him a penny....despite a lifetime contract. I trust MB to do something similar with Stoopsid.
It would go down by 75% of his yearly salary. So 9m x 4.5 x.75 = 30.375m. I think his salary go up a small amount so a bit more. The 4.5 is for the years remaining on his contract assuming he is fired effective Jan 1, 2027.I’m assuming it’s a years salary. So, deduct his 9 million yearly salary. So, 38 million - 9 million, would be 29 million.
Ninety nine percent of that was Cals stupidity though.He was able to rid us of Cal without paying him a penny....despite a lifetime contract. I trust MB to do something similar with Stoopsid.
It was Ohio State with out permissionMitch had absolutely nothing to do with that, cal was coming back until he messed up and violated his contract talking to Arkansas and trying to negotiate even more from Mitch. If he hadn’t broken his contract cal would still be here.
I agree for the most part, but if Indiana can compete for the BIG 10 and make the CFP, we certainly can as an SEC school. It takes the right administration and hire. We have enough resources to produce a competitive team a couple years a decade. You can literally buy talent now. Just need a coach and the right guys.Brother idk how to tell you this but stoops is not the first UK coach to not make an SEC title game. In fact we’ve never ever made it once in our history
and if that’s your bar for success at Kentucky, I’m afraid you’re gonna be disappointed the rest of your life. Our ceiling is 10-3 citrus bowl in an SEC down year, consistently 7 or 8 wins is the best I think you can ever expect from UK given our massive disadvantages compared to half of the conference
stoops needs to go but you definitely shouldn’t be listing ‘never made SEC title game’ as a reasonable thing we ever expected him to do.
Just an insane contract. Take Arkansas coach. He had to be over .500 overall to get a 9 million dollar buyout. That’s the kind of offer Stoops should have had.It would go down by 75% of his yearly salary. So 9m x 4.5 x.75 = 30.375m. I think his salary go up a small amount so a bit more. The 4.5 is for the years remaining on his contract assuming he is fired effective Jan 1, 2027.
Wow, that is still a lot of money. But we may have to do it if he remains our coach.It would go down by 75% of his yearly salary. So 9m x 4.5 x.75 = 30.375m. I think his salary go up a small amount so a bit more. The 4.5 is for the years remaining on his contract assuming he is fired effective Jan 1, 2027.
Should’ve done that when he flirted with A&M but no he extends and gives him more money. Mitch is so stupid when it comes to contracts.The only way we win this is if Mitch finds a clause that they can fire him for or he leaves like cal did. Sadly he is not going anywhere unless fans do Joker style boycott
Just unbelievable.Should’ve done that when he flirted with A&M but no he extends and gives him more money. Mitch is so stupid when it comes to contracts.
I'm not aware of any revision to Mark's contract after amendment six which was signed in Nov 2022. Please provide a link to indicate Mitch extended and gave him more money after he flirting with aTm.Should’ve done that when he flirted with A&M but no he extends and gives him more money. Mitch is so stupid when it comes to contracts.
This is my thinking as well.He looks absolutely miserable. Someone who cares about him should get in his ear and suggest he negotiates a buyout himself.
I get it. He can force UK’s hand, but why? He’s got more money than he will ever need. Go to Mitch and offer to take half the promised buyout to walk at the end of the season.
Sure, he could get the entire thing by waiting it out but is it worth it? That’s years of being miserable. Offer to take $15 million or whatever and enjoy life.
You're correct he signed his extension in 2022 and flirted with A&M in 2023 that was my bad I had them flip flopped in my mind. My point still stands that when his foot was out the door and was ready to go to A&M the very next year after signing his extension at UK he should've been let go. They were all but going to hire Stoops at A&M until it was vetoed. According to this article sources say that Stoops was telling staff members , friends and boosters that he was leaving for college station until they said no no no no.....I'm not aware of any revision to Mark's contract after amendment six which was signed in Nov 2022. Please provide a link to indicate Mitch extended and gave him more money after he flirting with aTm.
Arkansas should have waited a few more games and it would have saved them some money. He was 2 games above .500 since 2021. If they would have waited, that number drops to $5.7 million. I don’t know why they didn’t.Just an insane contract. Take Arkansas coach. He had to be over .500 overall to get a 9 million dollar buyout. That’s the kind of offer Stoops should have had.
That was more Cal's stupidity than Barnhart's smarts.He was able to rid us of Cal without paying him a penny....despite a lifetime contract. I trust MB to do something similar with Stoopsid.
Yeah it’s kinda surprising, but I guess they just decided to get it over with and eat the money.Arkansas should have waited a few more games and it would have saved them some money. He was 2 games above .500 since 2021. If they would have waited, that number drops to $5.7 million. I don’t know why they didn’t.
Mitch had absolutely nothing to do with that, cal was coming back until he messed up and violated his contract talking to Arkansas and trying to negotiate even more from Mitch. If he hadn’t broken his contract cal would still be here.
Ninety nine percent of that was Cals stupidity though.
This is just "BarnMan Bad" style Barnhart Derangement Syndrome. If the contract was the dumbest lifetime contract thingy evah....then why "screw up" and risk it by flirting with Ark? Do you really think Cal was stupid too? Agree he was a carnival barker...but stupid is not something he is. He certainly played our fanbase for years.That was more Cal's stupidity than Barnhart's smarts.
I would absolutely say that Cals ego and arrogance made him do a stupid thing . He hadn’t decided whether he was taking the Arkansas job but Mitch had the “Breach of contract “ papers drawn up and delivered to his house the very day he found out about Cal talking with Arkansas. I know this for a fact.This is just "BarnMan Bad" style Barnhart Derangement Syndrome. If the contract was the dumbest lifetime contract thingy evah....then why "screw up" and risk it by flirting with Ark? Do you really think Cal was stupid too? Agree he was a carnival barker...but stupid is not something he is. He certainly played our fanbase for years.
Mitch played it perfectly. Cal left on his own and we paid him squat.
You can be smart in some areas and an idiot in others. Cal thought there was no way anyone would ever terminate him so he could do what he wanted regardless of contract terms. So, he was stupid by letting his ego get the best of him. He's not the first and won't be the last smart person to do something stupid.This is just "BarnMan Bad" style Barnhart Derangement Syndrome. If the contract was the dumbest lifetime contract thingy evah....then why "screw up" and risk it by flirting with Ark? Do you really think Cal was stupid too? Agree he was a carnival barker...but stupid is not something he is. He certainly played our fanbase for years.
Mitch played it perfectly. Cal left on his own and we paid him squat.
How long have you been a UK football fan? UK athletics is just in it for the SEC cut in football. Other than a few years, we have always run the same garbage out.If we care about Football, we can't keep running the same garbage out week after week, year after year.
But Cal QUIT. He wasn't terminated. He quit despite having a "lifetime contract". A contract that the BDS infected among us said we were stuck with him for life. I still haven't seen apologies from all the haters who were WRONG. Mitch got rid of Cal and he will do the same to Stoopids.You can be smart in some areas and an idiot in others. Cal thought there was no way anyone would ever terminate him so he could do what he wanted regardless of contract terms. So, he was stupid by letting his ego get the best of him. He's not the first and won't be the last smart person to do something stupid.
From what I understand he was told to either resign or be fired for breech of contract. I don't think he wanted to leave.But Cal QUIT. He wasn't terminated. He quit despite having a "lifetime contract". A contract that the BDS infected among us said we were stuck with him for life. I still haven't seen apologies from all the haters who were WRONG. Mitch got rid of Cal and he will do the same to Stoopids.
Oklahoma, Ole Miss, A&M and Vandy have also never made an SEC title game. If everybody eventually makes one ... wanna take a guess who will be the last one to make it?Brother idk how to tell you this but stoops is not the first UK coach to not make an SEC title game. In fact we’ve never ever made it once in our history
and if that’s your bar for success at Kentucky, I’m afraid you’re gonna be disappointed the rest of your life. Our ceiling is 10-3 citrus bowl in an SEC down year, consistently 7 or 8 wins is the best I think you can ever expect from UK given our massive disadvantages compared to half of the conference
stoops needs to go but you definitely shouldn’t be listing ‘never made SEC title game’ as a reasonable thing we ever expected him to do.
That would require forethought and negotiation skills. Not sure why we don’t have professional negotiators, would have been way cheaper than $40mil.Just an insane contract. Take Arkansas coach. He had to be over .500 overall to get a 9 million dollar buyout. That’s the kind of offer Stoops should have had.