what is washington selling?
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How many top programs are their on the west coast? Have you seen the population throughout the 3 western coastal states? Lots of players to choose from.
A good school in a beautiful area.
48 million people in those 3 states and their are only 8 schools in those 3 states.
Oregon St
Oregon
Washington
Washington St
USC
California
Standford
UCLA
Do not think I left any of them out. Those are the major schools and their is only one major conference in the Pac 12.
All these programs should be damn good consindering the amount of population their is to choose from.
Personally I would much rather live in the pacific NW versus San Fran and below. Just to dry and baron for my taste.
Oregon St
Oregon
Washington
Washington St
USC
California
Standford
UCLA
Do not think I left any of them out. Those are the major schools and their is only one major conference in the Pac 12.
All these programs should be damn good consindering the amount of population their is to choose from.
Personally I would much rather live in the pacific NW versus San Fran and below. Just to dry and baron for my taste.
Beautiful city with beautiful women and a highly regarded academic institution. Add in the population and relative lack of competition among major sportsing colleges and there's your sell.
So true. One of the coolest tailgating traditions too. They have over 50 guys on their roster from California. That speaks volumes. They have a very good history (a top 20 program historically).
Don't know about basketball but football-wise they have a great coach and good tradition to go with a good school. Almost 60 players come from California so they also have a fertile recruiting ground. Nice program.
All you have to do is take a trip there. It is beautiful.
Mountains, ocean, rivers. Better than average temperature. Wonderful food. Marijuana is legal.
The legal age for possession of marijuana in Washington (as with the other states I've examined) is 21. That won't do much to influence recruiting.
I'm talking about not being charged. They could get it before it was legal in the first place. If 18 was the age, then you would not live in fear of arrest and scandal. Further, if the school took a hands off approach (in view of legality) then it would basically be like alcohol, only available sooner. As it stands, I'm pretty sure upperclassmen enjoy the state of things. Is the program testing them for use? Maybe. Maybe not? Inquiring minds want know. If use does not mean arrest, do coach and AD really care? At what point does someone tell the lab, "We're just looking for coke, heroin, meth, etc. now. We aren't interested in weed positives."?
This.
I went to Oregon once in college when EKU played Oregon St. We stayed in Corvallis. It was incredible. If Washington is anything close to that, and I'm guessing it is, I can easily see the appeal.
Add in a coach who is from the surrounding area, went 92-12 as the HC at Boise, has recruited the area since 1993, and is stellar at turning 3* players into studs.
Washington football gets to play in arguably one one of the most beautiful stadiums in the country but at this point I don't even think it's a talent thing. Petersen is an outstanding football coach and gets the most out of his players.
A lot of people west of the rockies, mainly in the population centers of Cali, and not a proportional level of competition for the amount of talent compared to our part of the country.
Lots of good talent in the southeast, but there are 3 major conferences relatively bunched up and intertwined competing for the talent.
West Coast has one P5 conference, and really only 1 or 2 top dogs, and those programs only have room for 53 a piece.
Kids in southeast/mid west grow up with SEC, ACC, Big 10, even some B12.
In Florida, you can have kids who grew up watching seminoles and canes who want to play acc, but their friends down the block grew up watching Gators and bulldogs and each of those kids have teammates who follow buckeyes/wolverines or longhorns and sooners.
Kids in California grow up primarily with Pac 12 and stay loyal to it.
We keep seeing that it doesn't take much for a Pac 12 team to become relevant. Hire a good offensive minded coach and you can take off relatively quickly because the talent is there and readily available.
Seeing it with Washington, WSU.
The surprise isn't UW's talent, it is the fact that they along with a lot of other Pac programs more dominate more often.
Lots of good talent in the southeast, but there are 3 major conferences relatively bunched up and intertwined competing for the talent.
West Coast has one P5 conference, and really only 1 or 2 top dogs, and those programs only have room for 53 a piece.
Kids in southeast/mid west grow up with SEC, ACC, Big 10, even some B12.
In Florida, you can have kids who grew up watching seminoles and canes who want to play acc, but their friends down the block grew up watching Gators and bulldogs and each of those kids have teammates who follow buckeyes/wolverines or longhorns and sooners.
Kids in California grow up primarily with Pac 12 and stay loyal to it.
We keep seeing that it doesn't take much for a Pac 12 team to become relevant. Hire a good offensive minded coach and you can take off relatively quickly because the talent is there and readily available.
Seeing it with Washington, WSU.
The surprise isn't UW's talent, it is the fact that they along with a lot of other Pac programs more dominate more often.
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As a truck driver I go up to the Seattle area several times a year and the western side of Washington is just simply beautiful.
As for as football goes they have one of the top 4 coaches in the country and maybe the best at evaluating talent and maximinizing that talent to its fullest. They play extremely disciplined on both sides of the ball. The only schools who wouldn't trade head coaches with them are Bama, tOSU, Michigan and maybe Clemson and Washington wouldn't trade for Dabo.
I've always felt like Petersen and his staff at Boise were excellent at evaluating talent. They may not have had the depth of an upper tier team, but their starters were really good looking football players.
Another thing I didn't mention is that I think he is excellent at finding kids who fit what he wants to do on both sides of the ball. I know he has an offensive background, but I think he could step over and run the defense just about as effectively as he can the offense. Just a great football mind and obviously a great motivater by being able to get people to reach their max potential. By all accounts he doesn't have all the quirks Meyer and Harbaugh bring with them and Dabo to an extent.
I'm sure some schools look at our recruiting rankings the last few years and wonder what the eff too.
Makes more sense to me that Washington is good over Alabama, Ohio State, and Michigan. Now that they have a coach on par with the others, where would you want to go to school?
billue, I have to assume you're not any older than 30 (not being snide, for the record), because Washington under Don James was about as strong and consistent a program West of the Rockies as there was in college football for about twenty years. That 1990-91 team was incredibly dominant and churned out major NFL talent every bit as much as Miami and Florida State at that time and were beating the hell out of Southern Cal back then.
By just about any account Seattle is a spectacular town and it's prep ranks do produce quite a few high level basketball players.
By just about any account Seattle is a spectacular town and it's prep ranks do produce quite a few high level basketball players.
Petersen is a great coach who is innovative and fun to play for. The college and stadium are very nice. You may have noticed a certain green herb is legal in the state. USC is on the decline, so more California talent is looking elsewhere.
I agree 100% with all that. If I were an AD looking for a football coach, Petersen would be my first call, and I would present him with a blank check.
That has pretty much been tried before, he always stayed at BSU. But he jumped on the Washington job. I have heard his son has some condition and the best treatment is in that region is why he stayed, no idea if that is true or just urban legend. Maybe he is from the area I don't know, or he could just love the northwest and want to be there, but Washington will be a program the Pac12 has to deal with as long as he is there and maybe the rest of the country.
Petersen is a west coast/pacific northwest guy through and through. Born in Cali, educated and played in Cali, coached in cali, oregon, idaho, and now Washington.
I agree that any school that doesn't have a top 4-5 coach would be silly not to empty the bank for him, but he was never going to leave that region. He may stay at UW until he retires. The only scenario I could see him leaving is if a big Cali school opens up, or if a pro team in that part of the world gives him a call.
I agree that any school that doesn't have a top 4-5 coach would be silly not to empty the bank for him, but he was never going to leave that region. He may stay at UW until he retires. The only scenario I could see him leaving is if a big Cali school opens up, or if a pro team in that part of the world gives him a call.
it is definitely the rain "Days per year with precipitation - rainfall:147 days"
Ever been to Seattle OP? It's one of our nation's great cities set in the beautiful Pacific NW. Go ocean kayaking in the AM, and skiing in the PM. It's a beautiful campus and an excellent school. Kind of the same formula Oregon uses though Eugene is no Seattle.
IIRC quite a few people tried to get Peterson away from Boise for a long while and he said "no" time after time. There were those saying that he would never leave Boise... Peterson interviewed with USC but
Another article where he talks about his decision to leave...
Q: You decided USC wasn't the best fit for you (the job was eventually given to Steve Sarkisian, which opened up the Washington job for Petersen). What made Washington work?
A: That's a great question. I don't know. It's really interesting with the USC thing. I don't know what they felt, and it's hard to describe what I felt — it just didn't feel like it was totally the right thing. But when I spoke to these guys, it did. I know a little bit more about this program just because of some of the connections that I have over here. I felt like I knew it better than the other one. So I felt like I knew what I was getting myself into more.
Q: What role did money, either for you or the money behind the program up there, play in your decision to leave?
A: Money for me personally, none. I've said this before, head coaches already make ridiculous money. That wasn't going to change my happiness at all. The support, in terms of everything else that supports the program, I think that's a positive here, there's no question about it. There's a lot of support here."
Didn't he have a special needs child and he wanted to keep the child under the care of drs in Boise? Seems I recall that was a reason given for his turning down Nebraska several years ago.
Yes it is. Maybe even better since you have the city of Seattle and still access to great outdoor activities.
Seriously, if you have never gone to the northwest, make it a vacation spot at least once. Do it early summer or late summer. Take shorts and hiking gear. And just go to the mountains, real mountains. Climb parts of Mt. Baker or Hood. Go see Mt. St. Helen. Take a full hike up Mt. Si and look at Seattle and the bays.Go see Pike Place Market and eat your fill of fish, fresh fish.
Get a bike and ride through Seattle. It is not very big. Watch the ships come in and deliver their cargo. Ride the FERRIS WHEEL.
take a ferry across the sound and have lunch on one of the islands. Then take AMTRAC down to Portland for a day or so. It is less than $50 each way.
Get a bike and ride through Seattle. It is not very big. Watch the ships come in and deliver their cargo. Ride the FERRIS WHEEL.
take a ferry across the sound and have lunch on one of the islands. Then take AMTRAC down to Portland for a day or so. It is less than $50 each way.