When even Ben Jones turns?

Creamery

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1st half the article was very good. Lot of good questions toward possible causes of the problems. 2nd half sounds like more pompous media expecting insider info. I’d rather hear Bens take on the core issues - whether they be on Franklin or other areas. The team was 11-2 in 2019 so they’re not that far from recent success. Recruiting classes not that highly rated the last 2 years. I’d rather hear more insight into what’s gone wrong there. Also I can’t see MY leaving but will be interested to see what happens with Trautwein.
 

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1st half the article was very good. Lot of good questions toward possible causes of the problems. 2nd half sounds like more pompous media expecting insider info. I’d rather hear Bens take on the core issues - whether they be on Franklin or other areas. The team was 11-2 in 2019 so they’re not that far from recent success. Recruiting classes not that highly rated the last 2 years. I’d rather hear more insight into what’s gone wrong there. Also I can’t see MY leaving but will be interested to see what happens with Trautwein.
I believe Trautwein will be gone and maybe Seider.
 

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Name our star players from Florida....
Johnny Dixon - not sure transfers count?
Keyvonne Lee
Caziah Holmes

you’re right - not much on the present roster - we did have a few receivers from Fla transfer and have at least 2 incoming recruits.
 

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All you have to look at is the offensive Line, Bates, Fries, McGovern and Menet(just got released from practice squad about a month ago.) all in the NFL. It's the scheme.
 

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All you have to look at is the offensive Line, Bates, Fries, McGovern and Menet(just got released from practice squad about a month ago.) all in the NFL. It's the scheme.
Any many of this board (not saying you) wanted Limegrover fired and how we needed an upgrade
 
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When even Ben Jones (not Dave Jones) - who seems like a nice enough young man, but has been an absolutely strident and loyal advocate for Franklin over the years - sees it, you know it is getting pretty bad, obviously.
Penn State Football: It All Has to Get Better. That Starts at the Top and with a Vision | State College, PA
Franklin outlined his vision clearly and succinctly - to be elite. We are not there and are drifting further and further away the last few seasons. It seems obvious that Franklin is not the guy to get us there…he has a large body of work now with a lot of “should haves”…it’s time for a change.
 

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A question that Ben hints at but didn't ask. What is the culture and identity Franklin wants for his team at PSU? Sure, he will rattle off some values, but this year what was the offense's identity. All Franklin can point to is that he wants a spread offense, explosive plays, a balance bw passing and running, and more explosive players. But if he looks at other teams, such as UM, WI, Iowa, their identity is clear. UM wasn't always that way, but it is amazing how Gattis has adopted his play calling to what Harbaugh now wants and moved away from the spread offense to more of a ground and pound approach with lots of motion.

Franklin just seems to want more stars in recruiting, but what exactly is the system? Granted, the OCs have changed so there hasn't been consistency, but the last two years, I can't figure out what is the identify of his teams, especially on offense. He keeps saying PSU needs to compete for 365 days and it is complex, but then against MSU, they have a game plan focused on balance bw run and pass, when everyone knows MSU has problems defending the pass. Even the MSU's DL was mad at the secondary in the first half, or so said the on-field reporter. Franklin needs to figure this out and let his OC implement a game plan to win rather than being stubborn and try to run the ball all year when it is obvious they couldn't.

Let's hope that Franklin's shot makes the hole rather than ends in the water.

 

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These quotes pretty much sums it up.

"Because for all Franklin has said over the past two years about improving the program, he has said little about improving himself."

"Transparency and honesty would go a long way in a moment like this."

"The problem is getting people on board with a plan to fix problems nobody has really explained."
 

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These quotes pretty much sums it up.

"Because for all Franklin has said over the past two years about improving the program, he has said little about improving himself."

"Transparency and honesty would go a long way in a moment like this."

"The problem is getting people on board with a plan to fix problems nobody has really explained."
Yep
 

PSU Mike

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Franklin outlined his vision clearly and succinctly - to be elite. We are not there and are drifting further and further away the last few seasons. It seems obvious that Franklin is not the guy to get us there…he has a large body of work now with a lot of “should haves”…it’s time for a change.

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