Why UCONN?
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Open your eyes. It's for basketball only. Brett Yormark is separating basketball from football in the Big 12’s television negotiations and looking at expansion with basketball in mind.
Basketball coaches for more than a decade have been told their sport doesn’t matter in conference realignment and doesn’t matter in major financial decisions and doesn’t matter except in the solitary month of March. But Yormark sees tremendous value in basketball and promoting the sport.
Houston AD Chris Pezman said Yormark is on the right path. Pezman: “We all believe because of the strength of basketball ... when the next TV deal comes up, separate it. There’s real merit in that."
The SEC and Big Ten are out there financially. How do you close that gap? The idea that propping up basketball makes a lot of sense. Tramel wrote Big 12 basketball coaches love Yormark.
Keep it separate and I'm all for it.
Basketball coaches for more than a decade have been told their sport doesn’t matter in conference realignment and doesn’t matter in major financial decisions and doesn’t matter except in the solitary month of March. But Yormark sees tremendous value in basketball and promoting the sport.
Houston AD Chris Pezman said Yormark is on the right path. Pezman: “We all believe because of the strength of basketball ... when the next TV deal comes up, separate it. There’s real merit in that."
The SEC and Big Ten are out there financially. How do you close that gap? The idea that propping up basketball makes a lot of sense. Tramel wrote Big 12 basketball coaches love Yormark.
Keep it separate and I'm all for it.
I’m curious why it makes sense from a UConn perspective, unless we plan to back up a truck to take on the burden that is UConn football and solve that school’s financial woes. Returning to the Big East resuscitated a dead brand, now they’re champions again with nearby rivals and an MSG conference tournament, I’m sure the alumni are happy, would be best IMO for their AD to stay put.
Connecticut interest is for all sports including football. Finding a P5 home for it's derelict football program is why they would be interested. Little birdies have been telling me for months that it will be Connecticut, Colorado, Arizona, and San Diego State. Instant coast to coast. Instant added strength to basketball. Decent football. Smaller payments to G5 newbies.
Not sure why UConn would sign up for this again after their last venture. There is a very high probability of the quality football programs being poached again at some point, leaving them in another AAC situation.
Even if that doesn’t happen, there is still the possibility of UConn hoops again falling to the wayside at the expense of propping up a football program that most in their community could care less if it exists or not.
They will again lose their regional identity with most of their road games being even further than the AAC road trips. If I’m a UConn fan I say hell no to this crap, chasing conference football dollars has yet to help anyone, and nearly killed their own AD.
yet they will win another national championship before WVU does. so banners hanging from a ceiling and royalty money alone aside, who is really incompetent?
Teams leaving big 12 is over. Connecticut football has been as successful as many big 12...including wvu recently. Connecticut is a basketball bluebloox and that won't change. If offered they have a lot of money to gain and little to lose.
Teams leaving the Big 12 is over only if nothing changes. If any of the Big XII programs becomes a national power in football they will be gone immediately. If the B1G wants a to expand further south, Baylor, TCU, Tech, OK State, KU are all targets.
If either of the B1G or SEC decides basketball is now more important, Kansas and anyone else they want is gone immediately.
As for UConn football and pretending they have any value, they have not finished over .500 in over a decade playing a mostly G5 schedule, and exist only because the Big East begged and pleaded for them to try and play big boy football only to be abandoned by the football members of that league. Their own fans would rather the program have never existed than to try again at a (better) power conference level.
That community believes rejoining the Big East saved its basketball program. Now they are hanging a national championship banner and are happy. The alumni being happy means everyone at UConn has job security. Doing this move and risking another dark era for basketball so that football can join Kansas as a punching bag means UConn risks disenfranchising its core basketball fans once again for the sake of the afterthought football program.
Lol...disenfranchising basketball...because of football. Sorry...but that's some pretty dumb shitt. Sounds like you worry about wvu vs Connecticut.
I wouldn’t expect a simp like you to understand why a program that has barely existed in a semi-serious setting in the few years they were a Big East member, shouldn’t be driving decisions at a school that has 5 basketball national championships.
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Don't believe it's the same idea as Big East was. But you can close your eyes to the situation if you must.
Uconn won the Big East in 2010 in football, and they have won more national championships in basketball then the entire Big 12 combined in the last 20 years. I'm not sure they would want to come to the Big 12 considering they were willing to throw their football team under the bus to get back into the Big East. The new Big East has won more titles in basketball than the Big 12 has.
The only reason teams aren't leaving the Big 12 is because the current slate has no where to go. If the Big 10 or Sec came knocking they would run as fast as they can out the door.
San Diego State and SMU are locks for PAC 12. Especially after Colorado and Arizona head to Big 12 and then Stanford, California, Washington and Oregon go to Big 10. It's in all the major publications of the National CFE Sports Papers.
Pretty sure no Big 12 remaining teams are on top of the list to be asked. Not many more teams in the NCAA football that can fill the dance card of SEC and Big 10.
The media is in full control of who gets invited where so as to turn a profit for themselves as well as the Big Two.
Not sure what’s hilarious about it, there is literally nothing to suggest in the history of CFB, and particularly all events since the original Big East raid that these conferences will stop trying to find ways to make more money via expansion.
TCU has gone further than any non Ohio based B1G football program since the 90s and are based in Dallas, with the B1G needing to milk as much out of their network before cable disappears completely in the next couple of decades, they should be a target. They threw their academic snobbery out the window when they added Nebraska so I don’t want to hear that nonsense argument.
We haven’t even gotten to the part where these conferences realize how much more money they can make if they kick out certain schools who are only there because of being grandfathered in or because of a bad decision from a different era. Vandy, Northwestern, etc will not survive this century as members of their current athletic conferences IMO.
It's not about wins. See Rutgers, Maryland. TCU will never be asked bank on it.
Many teams are far ahead of them.
When they separate there will only be 32 top teams. There will be no kicking out the weaklings. It will be the top dogs moving on to form their own level and away from NCAA. Book it. The college NFL is coming.
32 is where they are already at before Clemson, FSU, Washington, Oregon, and Notre Dame are added, so that number is inevitably going to be incorrect.
It once was about TV (Rutgers, Maryland, Missouri), now it’s becoming more about football brands (USC and UCLA being dragged in for the sole purpose of springing USC, OU, Texas). The NFL-lite right now has no place for private city schools in markets they already own that don’t want to invest in football. When streaming eventually takes over as the primary means of how sports are consumed, then the NFL-lite will have no need for large public schools near major markets that don’t want to invest in football. The NFL-lite will replace deadweight with the cream of the crop from the rest of the conferences, or just simply cut them.
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If they're leaving those so called weaklings will be staying behind and conference names stay with them.
Those forming a new league will be put in divisions. Heard a long time ago this number could drop to as low as 24
If everyone unanimously voted out Vandy, I don’t understand how that means Vandy gets to walk out with the SEC brand name?
Temple was voted out of the Big East once upon a time, they didn’t keep the name.
CFB and sports in general are at a crossroads. With NIL money, the portal, etc. and the NCAA having no balls to act on any of it, things are going to change IMO.
The only thing that makes sense is the power 5 (or whatever the new name will be called) teams to break away and set their own set of rules.
I can see a EPL type system where the bottom 4 teams in each pod get regulated and the top teams from the lower conference join in. The CFP system is closest to the EPL system than any other sports league with the "rich get richer" and unbalanced spending an revenue streams. Why not follow the model to a degree. It's a working model and very popular.
I don't see it as the NFL lite at all. That is a socialist model which works amazing from a competitive aspect. NCAA football is the furthest from that as the top 5-10 programs have far more $$$ and weight than the other 60 or so teams.
The only thing that makes sense is the power 5 (or whatever the new name will be called) teams to break away and set their own set of rules.
I can see a EPL type system where the bottom 4 teams in each pod get regulated and the top teams from the lower conference join in. The CFP system is closest to the EPL system than any other sports league with the "rich get richer" and unbalanced spending an revenue streams. Why not follow the model to a degree. It's a working model and very popular.
I don't see it as the NFL lite at all. That is a socialist model which works amazing from a competitive aspect. NCAA football is the furthest from that as the top 5-10 programs have far more $$$ and weight than the other 60 or so teams.
They're not voting anyone out. Read. The top teams are going to leave th SEC, Big 10 and grab the ones left are worth it. They will form their own divisions. The SEC, BIG 10 name will still exist. Will not be any voting out of lower dogs if Big Dogs leave.
For the very same reason the B1G took Rutgers.....8 million people living in NYC.
Even the big dogs need some perpetual cupcakes to chew on, especially with wins being harder to come by due to the stiffer competition.
Yeah you're right. That's what other schools in the Big 12 think about wvu now!
We don’t have a conference network though, and even then the ACC passed the last time around.
ACC took Louisville to block Big 12 from getting them. They knew UCONN was always going to be there.
I’m pretty sure the cupcake games is what the SEC and B1G are trying to avoid. They see that the NFL has become the behemoth it is because of the parity. Layup games are killing college athletics, no one wants to see a full season where Bama (or whoever) has 1-2 challenges, they want to see a season where if the big dog doesn’t show up, they will get kicked in the teeth by an under .500 team.
So the ACC compromised their academics to take the 2nd best AD in friggin Kentucky over UConn and their proximity to NYC… what am I missing?
What do think? Louisville didn't want to pay the buyout for Big East. Louisville would be Big 12 if they had not waited. Louisville would be in Big 12 instead of Houston or UCF if they had not been stupid.
There is basically no difference in security in being in the Big XII vs the ACC except the ACC has a longer GOR. Louisville was screwed either way, as are we.