Women Still Do Most of the Housework, and Men Are Still Fine With That

vhcat70

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What say you? Me, I'm fine with it too.

"According to the New York Times, a new survey from Gallup found that even among 18-34-year-olds, heterosexual couples were no more likely than their older counterparts to divide housework equitably, with women still bearing the brunt of the labor. Meanwhile, a sociology study from last month found that similarly gendered notions of household labor still persist among high school students as well."

https://www.insidehook.com/daily_br...he-housework-and-men-are-still-fine-with-that
 
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I’m fine with it also... also fine with people doing whatever they want in their own homes, but I’m decidedly not fine with people like this redefining what society should be.

If young people can’t even envision a model of what men’s time at home might look like, that’s evidence that our beliefs about gender are really strong and sticky,” Joanna Pepin, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Times. “That’s yet another thing that’s getting in the way of social change.”



How about, no?
 

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I’m fine with it also... also fine with people doing whatever they want in their own homes, but I’m decidedly not fine with people like this redefining what society should be.

If young people can’t even envision a model of what men’s time at home might look like, that’s evidence that our beliefs about gender are really strong and sticky,” Joanna Pepin, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Times. “That’s yet another thing that’s getting in the way of social change.”



How about, no?

I'm also fine with whatever people decide to do in their own homes, but I have no problem with people who have opinions on how we can improve society.

I don't always agree with those opinions, but just because something's been done a certain way forever doesn't mean that it can't and shouldn't be reviewed periodically to determine if there might be a better way.
 
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She's a sociologist whose work entails improving society by undermining family structure.

I'm fine with people having whatever ideas on how they would improve society too, but her's and her cohorts' are awful ideas that don't improve society for anyone but themselves. They don't want to create a better a society, but a better one for them and in the process they don't care the consequences.

All of this under the guise of science and progress, when the ideas passed on as facts would not stand up to serious scientific scrutiny nor do they progress society anywhere but further destabilization.

Like (take a closer look at the picture) the further sexualization of society in the name of progress obviously doesn't and cannot stand up to serious scrutiny, but it sure can to a pseudo-scientific community of brainwashed ideologues egged on by a bunch of pervert degenerates they helped create. Sure it's better alright, but for whom?
 

Crushgroove

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Wife does the laundry and ~75% of the kid running
Daughters do their rooms, the dishes, vacuum, dust and sweep
I get bathrooms/kitchen, walking the dogs, cooking, grocery shopping, bill paying, yard work, painting, fixing, maintenance and whatever else needs doing... b/c I was raised to be a man. Likely explains the high quality of my companion.

Real recognize real.
 

CatOfDaVille

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Wife does the laundry and ~75% of the kid running
Daughters do their rooms, the dishes, vacuum, dust and sweep
I get bathrooms/kitchen, walking the dogs, cooking, grocery shopping, bill paying, yard work, painting, fixing, maintenance and whatever else needs doing... b/c I was raised to be a man. Likely explains the high quality of my companion.

Real recognize real.

Agree. Real men step up and help out around the house. Does that mean it's equal from a housework perspective? Not always. But you have to contribute or your wife is just a second mother.
 

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I’m fine with it also... also fine with people doing whatever they want in their own homes, but I’m decidedly not fine with people like this redefining what society should be.

If young people can’t even envision a model of what men’s time at home might look like, that’s evidence that our beliefs about gender are really strong and sticky,” Joanna Pepin, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Times. “That’s yet another thing that’s getting in the way of social change.”



How about, no?

That's a look of a man who has yet to realize that he will one day kill his wife.
 
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In other recent news, it was discovered that in a majority of households men cut the grass, fixed the toilets, moved furniture, maintained cars and changed the light bulbs disproportionately more then women.:grimace:
 
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bigsmoothie

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I cook; my wife cleans.

But she has the nerve to complain about me making a mess; it’s not like I give her **** for getting hungry.
Biggest difference between myself and my wife cooking. I clean as I cook. Load the dishwasher as I go. After we eat the dishes on the table only need cleaned up. She f’s up the whole kitchen. Stuff laying everywhere. It’s really amazing the mess she makes.
 
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Biggest difference between myself and my wife cooking. I clean as I cook. Load the dishwasher as I go. After we eat the dishes on the table only need cleaned up. She f’s up the whole kitchen. Stuff laying everywhere. It’s really amazing the mess she makes.

Before I was "good" at cooking, I was the same way. The more organized and better I got at cooking the cleaner I became. It's more about process than anything else - which is frankly what being a good cook is about. That and love (which is what I tell my wife her problem is). :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
 
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dgtatu01

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How about everyone does whatever they want in their home and everyone else mind their own dang business. How arrogant you must be to think you have a better way for someone else to live their life if they don't have a problem with it.
 

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I’m fine with it also... also fine with people doing whatever they want in their own homes, but I’m decidedly not fine with people like this redefining what society should be.

If young people can’t even envision a model of what men’s time at home might look like, that’s evidence that our beliefs about gender are really strong and sticky,” Joanna Pepin, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Times. “That’s yet another thing that’s getting in the way of social change.”



How about, no?
The only thing not wrong with this pic is the “Glory Hole” sign
 

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My parents told us before we got married......"Make a list of all the chores that you'll think you'll do around the house........and assign them to your liking." We did this and we have never had a debate about who does what around the house.

However, this does not change how we do our jobs.
-Me: I just shut up and get it done.

-Wife: Doesn't complain all the time, but does complain quite a bit. I try to help her with her tasks, but with things like laundry she has a very particular way she likes to do them and won't let me help. I asked her to teach me her way of doing things and she skirts around the issue. It's like she prefers complaining.....
 

trueblujr

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Agree. Real men step up and help out around the house. Does that mean it's equal from a housework perspective? Not always. But you have to contribute or your wife is just a second mother.
The problem is what defines equal? If my significant other is doing 75% of the cooking, cleaning, Laundry, etc. but I'm doing 90% of the yardwork, house maintenance, home improvement projects, etc. what constitutes equal?
 

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The problem is what defines equal? If my significant other is doing 75% of the cooking, cleaning, Laundry, etc. but I'm doing 90% of the yardwork, house maintenance, home improvement projects, etc. what constitutes equal?

It's not black and white, but you can certainly feel how equitable the division of labor is.

For example, cutting the grass every Sat for six months out of the year is not equal to cooking dinner and cleaning every day year round. One is two hours per week, and the other is 8-10 hours per week.
 
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I do most of the cooking and cleaning, but there are a few reasons why.

1. I'm better at both.
2.. I'm faster at it.
3. I'm very particular about how I like things and I'd just end up cleaning up what she didn't clean right (according to me) in the first place.
4. I don't count lawn-mowing time because that's 'me' time.
 

trueblujr

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It's not black and white, but you can certainly feel how equitable the division of labor is.

For example, cutting the grass every Sat for six months out of the year is not equal to cooking dinner and cleaning every day year round. One is two hours per week, and the other is 8-10 hours per week.
that would depend on the size of property you own. if you live in a typical suburban subdivision on a postage stamp sized lot that takes 10 minutes to mow then yeah. I own over an acre, back yard completely fenced in. Mowing, weedeating, trimming shrubs, keeping up the landscaping, blowing and burning leaves in the fall, upkeep on the homes exterior, etc. easily can become an all-day job for part of the year. more than 6 months of the year, that's for sure.
 
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I’m fine with it also... also fine with people doing whatever they want in their own homes, but I’m decidedly not fine with people like this redefining what society should be.

If young people can’t even envision a model of what men’s time at home might look like, that’s evidence that our beliefs about gender are really strong and sticky,” Joanna Pepin, a sociologist at the University of Texas at Austin, told the Times. “That’s yet another thing that’s getting in the way of social change.”



How about, no?


That is a VERY unattractive lesbian couple.
 

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The only thing not wrong with this pic is the “Glory Hole” sign
Lol, it took 16 posts before this was pointed out. [laughing]

As for dividing chores, we both do whatever needs to be done. She does most of the cooking. I do most of the outside work. We both do laundry, we both clean. Sometimes I do more, sometimes she does more. I take care of most of the financial stuff, she takes care of the medical stuff. When our daughter was living, I probably stayed home with her on days that she was sick because my work schedule was more flexible.

We don't keep score. That has led to a good marriage.
 

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We divide it pretty evenly with her taking a little more BUT I also work longer hours.

We split cooking. We both enjoy it and are pretty good at it.

She does cleaning, tidying with occasional help from me. I do the pet care, general maintenance and keep the cars clean and running, with occasional help from her.

I’ve never given a **** about traditional gender roles. I just want tasks completed. In my household we’re a team because the 1950s were a long *** time ago and that life isn’t something I’m interested in. Equal partnership to me is better than man = boss; woman = man’s slave.
 
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Currently, I earn 100% of my household income. My wife has chronic pain and labor force work isn't practical at the moment. I do all yard work, 50-70% of laundry, change the bed 90% of the time, scrub toilets 98% of the time, and do dishes 10% of the time while cooking 5%.

My wife shouldn't have a complaint.
 
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We divide it pretty evenly with her taking a little more BUT I also work longer hours.

We split cooking. We both enjoy it and are pretty good at it.

She does cleaning, tidying with occasional help from me. I do the pet care, general maintenance and keep the cars clean and running, with occasional help from her.

I’ve never given a **** about traditional gender roles. I just want tasks completed. In my household we’re a team because the 1950s were a long *** time ago and that life isn’t something I’m interested in. Equal partnership to me is better than man = boss; woman = man’s slave.


Cannibal Corpse makes their women do all the work. Quit being Harry Styles and Backstreet Boys
 

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I don't mind dust piling up on book shelves, etc...She does, so she is the one that dusts.
I don't mind if the carpet vacuumed regularly, She does. So she USUALLY vacuums.
She does not give a rat's arse if the oil in the car hasn't been changed in over 5K miles. I do ...so I change the oil.

Some things she cares more about thus she usually takes care of the matter. Some I care more about and do the same. Some we both care equally about and share. Sometimes we just help one another out.

I've taught my sons and am teaching my sons in law that REAL men do laundry sometimes; wash dishes sometimes; Do a lot of cooking. They're role is not to be another kid for the wife to take care of.

It shouldn't take a sociologist to help us figure out how to make a marriage/family work.
 

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I don't mind dust piling up on book shelves, etc...She does, so she is the one that dusts.
I don't mind if the carpet vacuumed regularly, She does. So she USUALLY vacuums.
She does not give a rat's arse if the oil in the car hasn't been changed in over 5K miles. I do ...so I change the oil.

Some things she cares more about thus she usually takes care of the matter. Some I care more about and do the same. Some we both care equally about and share. Sometimes we just help one another out.

I've taught my sons and am teaching my sons in law that REAL men do laundry sometimes; wash dishes sometimes; Do a lot of cooking. They're role is not to be another kid for the wife to take care of.

It shouldn't take a sociologist to help us figure out how to make a marriage/family work.
Excellent post
 

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I try to take care of my own messes - clean my own dishes, do the laundry, take the trash out. Try not to be messy and pick up after myself - help clean the kids toys up, etc. She definitely does the majority of the work. We have a cleaning service clean the house every two weeks. Probably the best money I have ever spent. My dad did absolutely nothing at all so I try and do more than he ever did.
 

bigsmoothie

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I try to take care of my own messes - clean my own dishes, do the laundry, take the trash out. Try not to be messy and pick up after myself - help clean the kids toys up, etc. She definitely does the majority of the work. We have a cleaning service clean the house every two weeks. Probably the best money I have ever spent. My dad did absolutely nothing at all so I try and do more than he ever did.
We had a lady clean our house twice a month a few years ago. But we got to the point where we were cleaning before she came. My wife didn’t want her to think we were slobs.
 

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My dad took early retirement about a year after I moved out for college. So there was 15 years where he stayed home all day while my mom was at work. So he did all of the cleaning and started dinner every night. I still remember the first time I came to visit after this happened. He just went "I spent all day cleaning up the basement, if you make a mess I'll knock you out"