All I got are these 2 eyes and a TV, but gosh darn it I think 3, 4 & 5 are our best options and should see the field the most. “The playbook, the right way, bla bla bla”. Gimme athletes in space I wanna win!
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I want the total package. Can catch, willing to do the dirty work and block nasty, and knows where they're supposed to be. I think too many dudes come in as former number ones and don't adapt well to the team game
This is a position where it looks like the coaches feel they have to throw a random walk on out there on most plays. Problem is they are awful. No top notch program does this. It’s an embarrassment that this happens at Nebraska. It’s obvious who the playmakers are.
Clemson won a Nattie with a walk on WR playing at least half of their snaps and he had the game winning TD in one of their playoff wins.....
Walk on is a euphemism for white guy. When I see walk on wide open, I don't care. Throw him the ball.
Leiwer should be lower on the depth chart. He isn’t that good. The other guys just need to step it up in practice
Leiwer is the only true walk on WR getting snaps I think and he's proven it in practice and games. I don't understand the hate. He's a really good player who didn't get much attention because of where he went to high school. He was a really nice pick up for us.
Apparently all things considered he's better than the guys behind him on the depth chart. I don't care how many stars you had coming out of high school if you can't be depended on to run the right route and catch the ball. You have to prove it in practice or you're not going to get thrown out there to "let em play".
Are you advocating we reduce the walk on program?? Sounds good to me. Spend more time coaching the first three units.
There was one 3rd down play where Manning was running downfield one-on-one vs a CB with no safety help. Martinez hesitated for several seconds before dumping the ball short of the first down marker. Why can't we throw the ball to our 6'4" 225 beast and let him go get it? It's freaking Fordham
How complicated is the playbook for college players to learn to get on the field? If it’s that hard to decipher then simplify otherwise the “dudes” everyone thinks should be playing, learn it enough to get it done during the week.
Manning is all hype and no production. Where is Will Nixon who we kept hearing about? Brewington and Allen need more touches. Toure is our best weapon. Martin is good too when not injured.
But Frost has utterly failed to recruit a Stanley Morgan or even a Kenny Bell type guy. I sometimes wonder if this coaching staff’s biggest weakness isn’t in talent evaluation. Guys who look good on paper and who maybe pass an eyeball test aren’t necessarily going to be the best players. The best coaches have an eye for that, a knack for sensing that. I don’t think this staff spends the time required to develop that skill set.
But Frost has utterly failed to recruit a Stanley Morgan or even a Kenny Bell type guy. I sometimes wonder if this coaching staff’s biggest weakness isn’t in talent evaluation. Guys who look good on paper and who maybe pass an eyeball test aren’t necessarily going to be the best players. The best coaches have an eye for that, a knack for sensing that. I don’t think this staff spends the time required to develop that skill set.
The way to look at it, ESPECIALLY with WRs, is to picture how bad the guys behind them are in practice and blocking.
Seriously, say you’re a dad of a HS kid who only plays WR(finds a way to not play defense)…when the other fellas are walking away from the water cooler after you tell them that imagine what they are saying. Those are the kids Nebraska is getting at WR on scholarship.
And the kids with ballsacks are beating them out for reps. This is what happens folks.
Seriously, say you’re a dad of a HS kid who only plays WR(finds a way to not play defense)…when the other fellas are walking away from the water cooler after you tell them that imagine what they are saying. Those are the kids Nebraska is getting at WR on scholarship.
And the kids with ballsacks are beating them out for reps. This is what happens folks.
Hunter Renfrow was a walk on at Clemson. It’s not uncommon. I think you’ll see others overtaking him as the year goes on.
See the quote above Pennsy. AMart has to pull the trigger. I think I know exactly the play ATL is talking about. Moron Millen doing color said he was covered, though Manning was running a post iirc and had the DB beat with no help. Throw it up to the beast of a receiver and let him get it. Otherwise why do we go after 6'3" ish 220lb WRs?
That’s an exception - not a rule. If you think we are getting back to being a top program with players like Liewer at WR then you are going to be greatly disappointed. Not saying you specifically- but some of the other posts in his thread are just plain silly. Liewer is not a great player, he’s not a good player and honestly he’s not a division 1 player and his 5 catches for 35 career yards proves it.
You sir are correct but our coaches are addicted to being right instead of winning. I don't want to see Liewer, Faulk or Belt unless its ST or really really really garbage time.. Dafuq coaches??!!
No, no one is complaining about Oliver Martin because he's actually good..
Yup...and KO coverage as well. It's almost like there is some kinda unwritten rule that you MUST play 4 walk on on KO.
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As Soon as he walks through memorial stadium let me know. All walk ons aren't created equal.
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If you have some walk ons with the kind of speed some of those kids do, it's a great place to use their talents. Damn. Why are the walk ons taking such a beating this week? We've got a walk on DB who showed up in the spring game who is one of our fastest DBs and the kid can tackle. He's on kick offs. Is that a bad thing?
Only Nebraska coaches and a few fans who are more fans of the walk on program than they are of winning games thinks that kid is a good D1 WR. It's comical...
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Have you watched the kid play? He's been one of our most consistent WRs for the past two years. I realize that's like being the skinniest Iowa cheerleader but damn. Betts can't figure out where he's supposed to run his routes and apparently Manning has had some issues. We need a lot of WRs to play to keep guys fresh so Liewer plays. He's a solid player. People hear white walk on WR and they assume he's slow. That isn't the case.
We've had multiple white walk on WRs at least get signed by NFL teams over the past 20 years. He's a good player or he wouldn't be playing. I don't know why guys like Nixon and Brown haven't taken on bigger roles but something tells me it has to do with their route running and blocking.
Do you remember one of our WRs only making it in to NU because of relaxation of admissions standards because of COVID? I do. Manning struggled to get eligible as well. I don't know how to break it to everyone but not every football player is on the Honor Roll in high school. The play book isn't that tough. Missing practice time doesn't help you either.
It's pretty simple my guy. You play your best players. If we have four walk on guys on our KO team I'm not buying the fact that we are playing our best players. If so our coaches should be fired for the fact that they can't recruit well enough.
None is against playing walk ons. I'm against playing below average walk ons at the expense of more talented scholarship players. Mainly because some have this antiquated infatuation of the walk on program. These kids arent Joel Mackovicka, or Shanle .
I didn't have a problem with a Todd Peterson at WR. Joel or Jeff Mackovicka at FB., Spencer Long on the OL, or Matt OHanlon at safety. But don't confuse the guys we have running down there with them. These are guys for the most part our coach is throwing out there for some type of sentimental feeling for the walk on program and fans of it. ND and SD St. and teams like that have crippled that program. There isn't near as much talent as their used to be walking on at NU.
Sooner or later THIS year when those guys actually have to cover a kick you are gonna see what I mean. It's fine as long as our kicker boots it out of the end zone . You will see why I say what I said. To me it makes no sense. I watch BAMA trot out a Heisman trophy winner on special teams last year but we can't or WONT play our best guys? It'll show itself soon enough though....
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Ok....What are your expectations of the program? If you are ok with guys like Leiwer starting and getting starters minutes you should probably lower your expectation. He's not starting anywhere in the BIG...I'm sorry
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I expect us to play the guys who give us the best chance to win. If Betts can't figure out how to get to where he needs to be and can't catch the ball I don't want him on the field just because he's bigger and faster. We played multiple WRs "starters minutes" . I don't really care who trots out on the field for the first play. I'm fine with the kid being in the 2 deep and beyond that it's up to other players beating him out. Being the fastest or biggest WR on the field doesn't mean you're going to be somebody we can depend on to catch a 10 yard pass on 3rd and 8. EVERYBODY wants all of our WRs to be able to house every catch they make but they have to run the right route, catch the ball and be able to block on the >50% of our plays that are run plays.
That was the post route correct? He had a step too. That was a bad decision. Fear of failure