Xavier hired Miller
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So much for that. He'll tear it up there. Now what? This story makes it very clear that, whatever we do from here will constitute "settling". It's a bad, bad optic.
Hard to blame Miller or Tanner here. Once that job came open, it was evident he was going back. I think most reasonable people get this. Only the ultra negative or opposing fan would think this looks bad. It stinks, but not much we could do once they went after him. Very similar to Kirby Smart. The worst part of it all is it just shows who we are as an athletic program. This is not a great job…
McMahon is probably the top candidate, but can we wait him out? My gut says we end up with Richey in the end. I love BJ McKie as a player, but I believe hiring him as a head coach would be a disaster. He needs to get some experience. And before people compare him to Beamer, Beamer had worked at a ton of schools under a bunch of great coaches. Not to mention, nobody knows how that hire will work out yet.
McMahon is probably the top candidate, but can we wait him out? My gut says we end up with Richey in the end. I love BJ McKie as a player, but I believe hiring him as a head coach would be a disaster. He needs to get some experience. And before people compare him to Beamer, Beamer had worked at a ton of schools under a bunch of great coaches. Not to mention, nobody knows how that hire will work out yet.
Tanner and Biden, neither one knows what the hell they are doing.
If that's the case, our AD didn't see it. He put on the full-court press to hire him while both jobs were open. So, yeah, blame him.
Yeah, if he had backed off Miller, then everyone would’ve criticized him for that too. Maybe Tanner did change course after the Xavier job came open? Everything is speciation at this point.
No, Sir. He went hard after this man when even the media reported he was entertaining thoughts of Xavier. The freaking State newspaper had a piece about it three days ago. It looks bad, no matter how you slice it. Ray got left at the altar again. If he had broken off discussions and rescinded any offer soon after learning that Miller might want to get back together with his first wife, he should have let it out that he was moving on, even if he had to leak it. This man has no savoir faire whatsoever. Now THIS will be the perception. https://www.thestate.com/sports/col...ina/usc-mens-basketball/article259495899.html
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My understanding is Tanner offered a good bit more money. Xavier has one helluva basketball history with a ton of NCAA Tournament success. They are in a fertile recruiting area for basketball and they have regularly sold out the Cintas Center for many years.....fan apathy is not an issue. Xavier is a premier program....its hard to overcome.
Quit goofing around and hire Marshall. If Xavier can get away with hiring a guy who was investigated by the FBI for Pete’s sake, we should be able to hire a guy who thumped a player
Sorry, but he's right.....everyone would have criticized Tanner if he pulled out. We put our best foot forward....and a better basketball program hired him. Simple as that.
Hire Marshall now while all the focus is on the tournament. It’ll still get some negative press, but attention will turn back to the tournament very quickly. All you have to do is ride out a few days of somewhat negative press. Folks will move on. Nothing Marshall did is the kind of thing that’ll have students protesting and all that. By the time basketball season rolls around it’ll be ancient history. People these days just don’t have the stomach to endure even a very brief period of negative press.
Why would they be criticizing him today since what was insinuated has actually come about? He would have been proven correct retroactively.
Tend to agree with Ward here. They should have had that Xavier possibility scoped and understood early on, and when it became news, we could have saved ourselves some embarrassment. Instead, we made poor Mike Uva look out of control.
We are awful at hiring, bottom line. Plus, no one wants to come here. Sign BJ, move on to the next President and Athletic Director.
If Tanner pulled out of the Miller sweepstakes and then Miller took the Xavier job, Tanner would be blamed for pushing him there. You know it and I know it. It sounds as though Tanner played the best hand he had.....a better financial package. Tanner couldn't do much about the other advantages that Xavier offers.
We have a slam dunk hire just sitting at our feet. All we have to do is pick it up.
Did Tanner make any comment about who we were pursuing? Not that I've heard......just a lot of speculation by bloggers and reporters and that information could have come from many sources outside our athletic administration.
How many opportunities will we have to hire a guy who is an absolute NCAAT machine? This is close to a once-in-a-lifetime shot for us.
I would have been ok with Miller but now that he’s off the table, anyone else is a total roll of the dice.
We have chance to guarantee ourselves multiple trips to the the NCAAT. It frustrates me to no end when people take very easy decisions and make them complicated. We should have announced this hire on Tuesday.
No, sir, not when published reports of his interest in Xavier, where he has already successfully coached, have already been out there for several days. Ray could have cut bait and not turned a hair on anyone's head. The only thing is, had he elected to do that, he would have needed to get it out then and not let things develop as they have. He must not have any competent advisors at all.
This would have been very close to a Spurrier-level acquisition.
I don't disagree with you. I think he is a heckuva coach who can find talent. But he has some baggage and is a bit arrogant....that will put off some BOT members.
King made the analogy to Spurrier. He had no baggage but is there any coach who has ever been more arrogant?
The hire is pretty simple. Address the baggage up front, it’s in the past and whatever happened or didn’t happen we are giving him a clean slate at South Carolina and move on.
I’m not arguing with you, just venting. I feel like I’m reliving the Dave Odom over Bob Knight experience again.
We are simply going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Tanner may have gotten a pass from the national media, but not the local or a portion of our fanbase....especially those who don't know Xavier's basketball history. Xavier and Dayton regularly battled TOSU for basketball players....and won quite a few of those battles.
Good call. Marshall could do for our basketball program what Spurrier did for football. It would be transformative.
Yep. No argument from me on that comparison or line of thinking.
Perhaps. But really all this is speculative as we don't know what Tanner did when Miller expressed interest in the Xavier job. You can bet our administration isn't going to make any public comment regarding the search and I seriously doubt Miller's agent would either. As a result people will fill in the holes as they see fit.....nature abhors a vacuum.
Well, this is the night for venting and hypothesizing. I'm about ready to hope for McMahon. He looks pretty good to me.
Actually like him also....though I like Marshall a bit more, I think he would be a harder sell to the powers that be.
Might be easier today than it was yesterday.
It would be a blip on the radar screen for a few days.
The media probably wouldn’t actually care all that much. We are not a high profile job, so it would probably seen as fitting for someone who has fallen from grace.
With the Xavier announcement his luggage has been mentioned, but one could hardly classify it as a "shitstrom". As you said a mere blip in passing.
Familiarity, and perhaps no football team lured him back to the northern banks of the Ohio River.
