Yeah, doesn't really matter that much but recent Team rankings vs Transfer U-----

jauk11

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UK now has 24 commits and is ranked 19th in the team rankings while Transfer U has 22 commits and is ranked 32nd. While I agree that star ratings on recruits are very hit and miss on an individual basis, for a whole class they do carry quite a bit of weight. And I also maintain that Rivals numerical ratings are much more accurate than the "star" ratings, where a three can be a near two star at 5.4 or a near four star at a 5.7, a lot of difference IMO. Of course they usually add a couple of transfers that usually have as their only redeeming quality their football ability, which helps them, but I haven't heard any news there yet.

Besides the recent player ratings upgrades UK added two (much needed, a big DT and a promising QB) 5.4 commits that lowered our average rating, while UL lost their 5.7 QB commit, Odin (originally a four star) but replaced him with a 5.7 LB from Georgia (I omitted the kicker commit for both teams, always very low) and they also added a 5.2 RB.

Using the numerical averages UK now averages a 5.617 while UL's whole class averages a 5.582. Both teams will probably fall several places because some other teams can wait for higher rated recruits and also have below 20 commits so they get the full point rating for any player added, for example if they are under the 20 commits they will get the full 75 points for that commit while a 5.6 for UK will only add the difference between the 5.6 and our 20th lowest point commit, probably a 5.4 for a plus 30 points instead of 75.

Probably not a lot of change overall though.

UK's average during the Brooks and Joker eras probably never got much over a 5.5 in any year (for instance Brooks best was his last I think, 2009, and it averaged about a 5.520) AND many of the top ones didn't stick around, we haven't lost many of Stoops recruits.

And you really really don't want to look at the Bama's of the world, typically some of them average a 5.9 four star for the whole class, Florida in 10 AVERAGED over a 5.9 for their TWO DEEP when Joker played them with more three stars than two stars starting-----plus two walkons.

But yeah, we should start beating them right away, Stoops didn't inherit that big of a deficit----LOL.
 
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It's about having good players to go along with better coaching. Look at how bad Florida was Muschamp's last year, don't tell me that they didn't have talent. I'm glad that you're happy with your recruiting, I like ours as well.
 

Beatle Bum

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I hear this claim but UL's record has dropped each year from the time Strong left when UL's fans claimed BP's amazing offense and coaching were going to take them even higher than Charlie had taken them. They make fun of UK fans' optimism.
 

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I believe that we can pull in better classes than UofL on a yearly basis as far as recruiting goes.

The transfers have been the biggest difference in the past few years.

It would be nice though to pull in a dominant offensive player like Lamar Jackson.

They've gotten Bridgewater and now Jackson who are players who can single handedly win you games.

We haven't gotten a guy like that since Cobb and he was mis-used IMO...
 
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I hear this claim but UL's record has dropped each year from the time Strong left when UL's fans claimed BP's amazing offense and coaching were going to take them even higher than Charlie had taken them. They make fun of UK fans' optimism.

I loved Charlie, but Bridgewater made Charlie look better than he actually was. Charlie was a defense minded coach that preferred a clock control offense, that kept us in games and it also kept the opposition in games. I prefer Charlie as a person but Petrino as a coach. Strong also never coached us in the ACC, thus our schedule is tougher now.
 

Beatle Bum

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I loved Charlie, but Bridgewater made Charlie look better than he actually was. Charlie was a defense minded coach that preferred a clock control offense, that kept us in games and it also kept the opposition in games. I prefer Charlie as a person but Petrino as a coach. Strong also never coached us in the ACC, thus our schedule is tougher now.

Jackson won BP a bowl against a team without a QB. The elevation of BP to genius has been decimated by his two years back.
 

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You may not like him, but he was 43-9 here the first time and he had Arkansas preseason top 5.
Keywords: was and had. Petrino is no where near the coach he used to be. I'm not sure why he isn't but he clearly isn't. You can watch him on the sideline and that's not the same cocky confident coach. He gets rattled easy now. I watched several UL games last year and the guy stayed flustered.
 

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say ja, however I know it's your thing and won't argue with ya. [winking] But I will say just about every new coach takes over a mess; after all, the mess is what got his predecessor fired. Other than Joker, every new coach at UK (beginning with Bradshaw) has taken over a mess. There is nothing new about this. It is just part of the job situation at UK.

On paper, Stoops appears to have recruited well. But until that on paper performance translates into corresponding on field performance (i.e., wins) we just don't know. Because of contract buy out provisions I am strongly of the opinion Stoops and Co. have 2 more years to get it right.

Peace
 

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Bobby is not going to recruit like Strong, I said that from the beginning. Strong was getting elite level kids out of Fla. and elsewhere. I mean those were all his kids that were drafted in the NFL last year. No way will Bobby recruit to that level. Go look at UL when John L's recruits and Bobby's first classes left, Kragthorpe got a lot of that mess. Go look at Ark, the guy before him signs good classes, Bobby adds some skill guys and QB. He leaves and the next 2-3 years they were terrible in personnel. I see a real pattern, he leaves all these programs in shambles personnel wise.

Bobby is not going to recruit to a Strong level, Strong had major talent.
Difference is that Grantham had relationship with a lot of those Ga kids that transferred in and the malcontent transfers is still how they make up for not recruiting to a C. Strong level. Petrino is not a strong recruiter.
I am glad as a UK fan that Petrino is getting talent. Transfers have saved him.
You can only take so many kids who have beaten their girl or been booted for dope and domestics.
That is on UL and Bobby.
IMO
 

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Bobby is not going to recruit like Strong, I said that from the beginning. Strong was getting elite level kids out of Fla. and elsewhere. I mean those were all his kids that were drafted in the NFL last year. No way will Bobby recruit to that level. Go look at UL when John L's recruits and Bobby's first classes left, Kragthorpe got a lot of that mess. Go look at Ark, the guy before him signs good classes, Bobby adds some skill guys and QB. He leaves and the next 2-3 years they were terrible in personnel. I see a real pattern, he leaves all these programs in shambles personnel wise.

Bobby is not going to recruit to a Strong level, Strong had major talent.
Difference is that Grantham had relationship with a lot of those Ga kids that transferred in and the malcontent transfers is still how they make up for not recruiting to a C. Strong level. Petrino is not a strong recruiter.
I am glad as a UK fan that Petrino is getting talent. Transfers have saved him.
You can only take so many kids who have beaten their girl or been booted for dope and domestics.
That is on UL and Bobby.
IMO

Actually according to the Rivals Rankings Louisville is still recruiting at the levels that they did under Strong...Charlie Strong classes according to Rivals from 2010 to 2013 his classes ranged from 29th-(2011 Bridgewater, Calvin Pryor, John Miller, Jamon Brown, Charles Gaines, DeVante Parker and Lorenzo Mauldin Class...all either Started this year in the NFL or major contributors) to 52nd-(Keith Kelsey Class)...Petrino classes are from 32nd-(Lamar Jackson, Javier Alexander) to 40th...not much if any difference.

In the end for me it is still about bringing in players that fit your system...that are coachable and are hungry. Also, again jmo once you get past the Top 10 it pretty much a meaningless...but I know I'm in the minority on this opinion.
 
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Jackson won BP a bowl against a team without a QB. The elevation of BP to genius has been decimated by his two years back.

Even though Texas A&M started a new QB they were not devoid of talent according to Rivals they were 6th to 15th from 2012 to 2015 in recruiting...Louisville in that same time period was 32nd to 52nd...
 
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Even though Texas A&M started a new QB they were not devoid of talent according to Rivals they were 6th to 15th from 2012 to 2015 in recruiting...Louisville in that same time period was 32nd to 52nd...

True, but if you don't have a QB you don't have a team IMO. That position is so important. If not for the QB position uofl would not have beaten UK the last two years.

Like others, I think Petrino is no where as good as he was during his last uofl tenure. Without Jackson this year, not sure you even make a bowl game and you certainly don't win the bowl game you played. Jackson is a stud and uofl is lucky to have him. He will have to learn to throw though but regardless in college he will still be tough to defend.
 

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It has so much to do with how long they stay if we can start keeping most of the players 4 or 5 years and replace most of the ones who leave early either to NFL or for whatever reason with transfers and JUCO's this will make more experienced players which should help the Coaches do a better job as they get experience with the players.
 

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True, but if you don't have a QB you don't have a team IMO. That position is so important. If not for the QB position uofl would not have beaten UK the last two years.

Like others, I think Petrino is no where as good as he was during his last uofl tenure. Without Jackson this year, not sure you even make a bowl game and you certainly don't win the bowl game you played. Jackson is a stud and uofl is lucky to have him. He will have to learn to throw though but regardless in college he will still be tough to defend.

Pretty much agree with what you posted...Someone said that Jackson changed two bowl games....if he would have flipped to Florida-(which he almost did) the SEC could have went undefeated this year in Bowl season.
 

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I loved Charlie, but Bridgewater made Charlie look better than he actually was. Charlie was a defense minded coach that preferred a clock control offense, that kept us in games and it also kept the opposition in games. I prefer Charlie as a person but Petrino as a coach. Strong also never coached us in the ACC, thus our schedule is tougher now.
Kind of like what Kentucky has going for them right now....
 

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True, but if you don't have a QB you don't have a team IMO. That position is so important. If not for the QB position uofl would not have beaten UK the last two years.

Like others, I think Petrino is no where as good as he was during his last uofl tenure. Without Jackson this year, not sure you even make a bowl game and you certainly don't win the bowl game you played. Jackson is a stud and uofl is lucky to have him. He will have to learn to throw though but regardless in college he will still be tough to defend.


agree with this. ul points out that they won last year so assume the status quo. problem with that is that boom and jojo got hurt and ul had no answer for them.... and bobby wasn't designing plays that was causing us problems... jackson was simply that good. same way cobb was for us except bobby was smart enough to ride the kid and joker and co pulled the ball out of cobb's hands on a couple big possessions late.

i think the advent of the spread O has negated most of the advantage that bobby had back in his cusa days. teams are having to play against 3 and 4 wide sets with power running games every where now. i think it's the reason bobby is going for more mobile qb's instead of true pocket passers like what he used to have. the qb run is what's open now with more db's and faster lb'ers.
 

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It is called playing to your strength...Jackson has a long ways to go and much to improve on but the talent is there. But going into the 2016 Governor Cup @ Papa John's barring injury Louisville is returning 18 out of 22 on offense/defense that played the vast majority of the Music City Bowl including the QB...That is why Louisville fans are confident going into 2016 and why they are very likely to enter 2016 in the Top 25
 

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UofL is still recruiting well but Stoops and Morrow are REALLY doing a great job right now.

I DO believe that the good classes will start paying off for us in the next few years.
 
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You may not like him, but he was 43-9 here the first time and he had Arkansas preseason top 5.

You may be in love with him, but 2 years in and UL is not better than before he got here. UL fans repeatedly posted how the offense was going to click now that he was back. But, the defense has been the only consistent thing these past two years. And, he was not left with the cupboard bare. You can look back all you want. He has not been great at UL this go around. Certainly has not looked "genius."
 

Beatle Bum

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say ja, however I know it's your thing and won't argue with ya. [winking] But I will say just about every new coach takes over a mess; after all, the mess is what got his predecessor fired. Other than Joker, every new coach at UK (beginning with Bradshaw) has taken over a mess. There is nothing new about this. It is just part of the job situation at UK.

On paper, Stoops appears to have recruited well. But until that on paper performance translates into corresponding on field performance (i.e., wins) we just don't know. Because of contract buy out provisions I am strongly of the opinion Stoops and Co. have 2 more years to get it right.

Peace

Petrino did not take over a mess. Not close.
 

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Bobby is not going to recruit like Strong, I said that from the beginning. Strong was getting elite level kids out of Fla. and elsewhere. I mean those were all his kids that were drafted in the NFL last year. No way will Bobby recruit to that level. Go look at UL when John L's recruits and Bobby's first classes left, Kragthorpe got a lot of that mess. Go look at Ark, the guy before him signs good classes, Bobby adds some skill guys and QB. He leaves and the next 2-3 years they were terrible in personnel. I see a real pattern, he leaves all these programs in shambles personnel wise.

Bobby is not going to recruit to a Strong level, Strong had major talent.
Difference is that Grantham had relationship with a lot of those Ga kids that transferred in and the malcontent transfers is still how they make up for not recruiting to a C. Strong level. Petrino is not a strong recruiter.
I am glad as a UK fan that Petrino is getting talent. Transfers have saved him.
You can only take so many kids who have beaten their girl or been booted for dope and domestics.
That is on UL and Bobby.
IMO

Not a bad post, but I have a major correction to make, you must have been listening to ESPN too much-----Strong wasn't getting elite players out of Florida (Miami), hurtt was. You remember him, the NROTY at the U and at UL, pretty obvious how he did it at the U (and the $5,000 "loan" wasn't to pay his light bill), but how in hell did he do it at UL a thousand miles from the beaches? A $5,000 "loan" is pretty easy to arrange considering the money to be made in football now, huh, jurich? If you can read this post you should be able to figure it out, but of course if you are a UL fan, who cares, just win baby.

If you can follow the dotted line it should be pretty obvious why Strong couldn't take the TU job when he was MUCH more suited for it unless he took hurtt with him, same reason jurich couldn't afford to fire him when he was censured by the NCAA (instead of banning him like he should have been) and couldn't recruit. How is Butch doing at the other big cheater without hurtt's help?
 

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say ja, however I know it's your thing and won't argue with ya. [winking] But I will say just about every new coach takes over a mess; after all, the mess is what got his predecessor fired. Other than Joker, every new coach at UK (beginning with Bradshaw) has taken over a mess. There is nothing new about this. It is just part of the job situation at UK.

On paper, Stoops appears to have recruited well. But until that on paper performance translates into corresponding on field performance (i.e., wins) we just don't know. Because of contract buy out provisions I am strongly of the opinion Stoops and Co. have 2 more years to get it right.

Peace

Petrino did not take over a mess. Not close.
True. But we're not talking about UofL. Since hiring Schnellenberger in 1985, other than taking over from Kragthorpe (and to a lesser extent Cooper) new Card coaches have not exactly taken over a mess.

Peace
 

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Keywords: was and had. Petrino is no where near the coach he used to be. I'm not sure why he isn't but he clearly isn't. You can watch him on the sideline and that's not the same cocky confident coach. He gets rattled easy now. I watched several UL games last year and the guy stayed flustered.

Part of the reason is the opponent. When he was here before, he was playing a lot of cup cakes. The ACC is still not as strong overall as the SEC. If they played in the SEC, his record would be a lot different.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 
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I'm not sure what you are trying to say ja, however I know it's your thing and won't argue with ya. [winking] But I will say just about every new coach takes over a mess; after all, the mess is what got his predecessor fired. Other than Joker, every new coach at UK (beginning with Bradshaw) has taken over a mess. There is nothing new about this. It is just part of the job situation at UK.

On paper, Stoops appears to have recruited well. But until that on paper performance translates into corresponding on field performance (i.e., wins) we just don't know. Because of contract buy out provisions I am strongly of the opinion Stoops and Co. have 2 more years to get it right.

Peace

Your exactly right. To many fans expect a winner immediately. I've always thought it took a minimum of 5 years for a new coach to get the players he wants in his system, especially when we were as poor as we were in talent when Joker left.

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Not a bad post, but I have a major correction to make, you must have been listening to ESPN too much-----Strong wasn't getting elite players out of Florida (Miami), hurtt was. You remember him, the NROTY at the U and at UL, pretty obvious how he did it at the U (and the $5,000 "loan" wasn't to pay his light bill), but how in hell did he do it at UL a thousand miles from the beaches? A $5,000 "loan" is pretty easy to arrange considering the money to be made in football now, huh, jurich? If you can read this post you should be able to figure it out, but of course if you are a UL fan, who cares, just win baby.

If you can follow the dotted line it should be pretty obvious why Strong couldn't take the TU job when he was MUCH more suited for it unless he took hurtt with him, same reason jurich couldn't afford to fire him when he was censured by the NCAA (instead of banning him like he should have been) and couldn't recruit. How is Butch doing at the other big cheater without hurtt's help?

With Katina Powell's help, Hurtt should do well at Loserville!

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funny i just went over there and they have a lb'er with 5.5 speed that they all were touting but yet kash is a lb'er with 5.5 speed and he's totally overrated. he was smaller though. LOL

im not saying UK fans are not guilty of over inflating our commits but dang ul fans are the kings of down playing our commits. i swear i cant remember more than maybe a couple kids i thought ul "oversigned" but they list 90% of our class as such every year.

take jackson off ul's team and let boom and jojo play the whole game and who honestly thinks ul is superior in most positions? good thing is they are gonna see how good elam, kash, drake, and young are in the next 2 to 5 years. so we can see if everything is absolute as some of their posters think.
 
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True. But we're not talking about UofL. Since hiring Schnellenberger in 1985, other than taking over from Kragthorpe (and to a lesser extent Cooper) new Card coaches have not exactly taken over a mess.

Peace
adding on to my last post. what are the ul recruits that UK fans downgrade like ul fans do ours?? go back the last few years if you can. not talking about the true sleepers but the "reputation" guys. i liked caban, hearns, mcneil, bonnafon (as a wr), culver, and probably a few others. but if you read their board, we dont have a single player they'd take.
 

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funny i just went over there and they have a lb'er with 5.5 speed that they all were touting but yet kash is a lb'er with 5.5 speed and he's totally overrated. he was smaller though. LOL

im not saying UK fans are not guilty of over inflating our commits but dang ul fans are the kings of down playing our commits. i swear i cant remember more than maybe a couple kids i thought ul "oversigned" but they list 90% of our class as such every year.

take jackson off ul's team and let boom and jojo play the whole game and who honestly thinks ul is superior in most positions? good thing is they are gonna see how good elam, kash, drake, and young are in the next 2 to 5 years. so we can see if everything is absolute as some of their posters think.

You understand that Louisville was missing 3 very key players last November on Defense for most if not all of that game...Keith Kelsey, James Hearns and Trevon Young. Also on offense Louisville was without for most of the game it leading WR Staples...both teams had major injuries/suspensions in that game so the "if'n" game can be played both ways.

Bottom line on defense Louisville is returning 8 players that played the vast majority of the Music City Bowl off a defense that finished according to the NCAA in the Top 20 in Total Defense playing a ACC Atlantic Division Schedule....Kentucky is returning 5 players off a defense that finished 59th in Total Defense playing a SEC East Schedule.
 
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You understand that Louisville was missing 3 very key players last November on Defense for most if not all of that game...Keith Kelsey, James Hearns and Trevon Young. Also on offense Louisville was without for most of the game it leading WR Staples...both teams had major injuries/suspensions in that game so the "if'n" game can be played both ways.

Bottom line on defense Louisville is returning 8 players that played the vast majority of the Music City Bowl off a defense that finished according to the NCAA in the Top 20 in Total Defense playing a ACC Atlantic Division Schedule....Kentucky is returning 5 players off a defense that finished 59th in Total Defense playing a SEC East Schedule.

So, I assume we had the injuries and you had the suspensions?
 

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Louisville had both not Kentucky....Young and Hearns were suspended Pregame...Kelsey was knocked out early in the game on defense....Staples our leading WR went out early on offense...Quick was knocked out of the game in the 4th Quarter.

Young is likely to be out for the entire 2016 season due to a hip injury he got early in the Music City Bowl...going into that bowl game and Kentucky game he was our leading Sacker with 8.5 QB Sacks.
 
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Flustered Petrino>Stoops as sideline coach and it ain't close. Deal with it. Stoops and staff pulled more boners than Jenna Jameson in '15.

Recruiting trophy goes to UK though.... Yeah.
 
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funny i just went over there and they have a lb'er with 5.5 speed that they all were touting but yet kash is a lb'er with 5.5 speed and he's totally overrated. he was smaller though. LOL

im not saying UK fans are not guilty of over inflating our commits but dang ul fans are the kings of down playing our commits. i swear i cant remember more than maybe a couple kids i thought ul "oversigned" but they list 90% of our class as such every year.

take jackson off ul's team and let boom and jojo play the whole game and who honestly thinks ul is superior in most positions? good thing is they are gonna see how good elam, kash, drake, and young are in the next 2 to 5 years. so we can see if everything is absolute as some of their posters think.

Their LBer is better because he is not from Kentucky.

I like their class. I really like the LBers they have. But, they are hypocrites. No debate about it.
 

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UK now has 24 commits and is ranked 19th in the team rankings while Transfer U has 22 commits and is ranked 32nd. While I agree that star ratings on recruits are very hit and miss on an individual basis, for a whole class they do carry quite a bit of weight. And I also maintain that Rivals numerical ratings are much more accurate than the "star" ratings, where a three can be a near two star at 5.4 or a near four star at a 5.7, a lot of difference IMO. Of course they usually add a couple of transfers that usually have as their only redeeming quality their football ability, which helps them, but I haven't heard any news there yet.

Besides the recent player ratings upgrades UK added two (much needed, a big DT and a promising QB) 5.4 commits that lowered our average rating, while UL lost their 5.7 QB commit, Odin (originally a four star) but replaced him with a 5.7 LB from Georgia (I omitted the kicker commit for both teams, always very low) and they also added a 5.2 RB.

Using the numerical averages UK now averages a 5.617 while UL's whole class averages a 5.582. Both teams will probably fall several places because some other teams can wait for higher rated recruits and also have below 20 commits so they get the full point rating for any player added, for example if they are under the 20 commits they will get the full 75 points for that commit while a 5.6 for UK will only add the difference between the 5.6 and our 20th lowest point commit, probably a 5.4 for a plus 30 points instead of 75.

Probably not a lot of change overall though.

UK's average during the Brooks and Joker eras probably never got much over a 5.5 in any year (for instance Brooks best was his last I think, 2009, and it averaged about a 5.520) AND many of the top ones didn't stick around, we haven't lost many of Stoops recruits.

And you really really don't want to look at the Bama's of the world, typically some of them average a 5.9 four star for the whole class, Florida in 10 AVERAGED over a 5.9 for their TWO DEEP when Joker played them with more three stars than two stars starting-----plus two walkons.

But yeah, we should start beating them right away, Stoops didn't inherit that big of a deficit----LOL.

Yeah good luck with that moron !!!
 

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Louisville had both not Kentucky....Young and Hearns were suspended Pregame...Kelsey was knocked out early in the game on defense....Staples our leading WR went out early on offense...Quick was knocked out of the game in the 4th Quarter.

Young is likely to be out for the entire 2016 season due to a hip injury he got early in the Music City Bowl...going into that bowl game and Kentucky game he was our leading Sacker with 8.5 QB Sacks.

Two UL starters were actually suspended?? It must've been an Aaron Hernandez type of crime then.
 

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Why do we take shots at UL recruiting? Coaching? Beat them every once in awhile and I'll be the first to fire away. We shouldn't talk about anyone's coaching. Ours wasn't up to most high school standards!
 

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Bobby is not going to recruit like Strong, I said that from the beginning. Strong was getting elite level kids out of Fla. and elsewhere. I mean those were all his kids that were drafted in the NFL last year. No way will Bobby recruit to that level. Go look at UL when John L's recruits and Bobby's first classes left, Kragthorpe got a lot of that mess. Go look at Ark, the guy before him signs good classes, Bobby adds some skill guys and QB. He leaves and the next 2-3 years they were terrible in personnel. I see a real pattern, he leaves all these programs in shambles personnel wise.

Bobby is not going to recruit to a Strong level, Strong had major talent.
Difference is that Grantham had relationship with a lot of those Ga kids that transferred in and the malcontent transfers is still how they make up for not recruiting to a C. Strong level. Petrino is not a strong recruiter.
I am glad as a UK fan that Petrino is getting talent. Transfers have saved him.
You can only take so many kids who have beaten their girl or been booted for dope and domestics.
That is on UL and Bobby.
IMO

The UofL 2015 draft pick who probably had the biggest impact this year from last year's record number was James Sample. He started at safety for the Jacksonville Jaguars for most of this year. He was one and done at Louisville and most definitely a Petrino recruit.

Good luck waiting for the talent level under Petrino to degrade from what Strong brought in here. You're going to be waiting for quite a while.
 
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