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TheResistance

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PG - Lowe
SG - Aberdeen
SF - Oweh (For now0
PF - Diabete
C - Moreno

Next:
Chandler (Oweh)
Jelly (Diabete)
Garrison (Moreno)
Johnson
Kam

You have to hope that Oweh figures out how to get that fire again. He CANNOT shoot 6 Three pointers in a game.
If Oweh doesn't hustle on defense BENCH him.

Moreno is better than Garrison. Nothing more to say.

Can Kam take the positives from the Loserville game and pass Johnson on the depth chart? Can Trent take the spot from both of them? Whoever is hitting the three, should play.

Will the Analytics prove Pope correct? He gave up on shooters for defense and physicality. I will be paying attention to the 3 point percentages and rate per game. Pope may have to adjust this part of his offense if our shooting woes continue.
 
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TheResistance said:
PG - Lowe
SG - Aberdeen
SF - Oweh (For now0
PF - Diabete
C - Moreno

Next:
Chandler (Oweh)
Jelly (Diabete)
Garrison (Moreno)
Johnson
Kam

You have to hope that Oweh figures out how to get that fire again. He CANNOT shoot 6 Three pointers in a game.
If Oweh doesn't hustle on defense BENCH him.

Moreno is better than Garrison. Nothing more to say.

Can Kam take the positives from the Loserville game and pass Johnson on the depth chart? Can Trent take the spot from both of them? Whoever is hitting the three, should play.

Will the Analytics prove Pope correct? He gave up on shooters for defense and physicality. I will be paying attention to the 3 point percentages and rate per game. Pope may have to adjust this part of his offense if our shooting woes continue.
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As much as I hate to say it, we're a better team with Oweh out and Chandler in. I don't think it's a permanent change or one that Pope will make, but Oweh clearly has something going on that may require him to come along slowly this season.

I think your lineup is solid. Again, for now and while the team comes up to speed.

To be honest, I feel like the shooting woes are due to Pope not focusing on offense at all yet. Guys don't understand spacing or passes, so guys aren't getting open and/or aren't shooting from their best analytical method (spot up, off the dribble, etc). I think we have the shooters, but whether we get/put them in a position to score is another matter entirely.
 
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TFCat11

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DA
CC
OO
Mo/ AJ
JQ/ MM

Lowe
JJ
AJ/ Mo
Kam
BG
Noah (until he proves he’s a D1 level contributor)

The top 5 need 28 minutes plus! No more mini-platoons or lottery ball subs! Is Pope wanting to win games or run a social club for young millionaires? Got to decide between the two!
 
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TheResistance said:
PG - Lowe
SG - Aberdeen
SF - Oweh (For now0
PF - Diabete
C - Moreno

Next:
Chandler (Oweh)
Jelly (Diabete)
Garrison (Moreno)
Johnson
Kam

You have to hope that Oweh figures out how to get that fire again. He CANNOT shoot 6 Three pointers in a game.
If Oweh doesn't hustle on defense BENCH him.

Moreno is better than Garrison. Nothing more to say.

Can Kam take the positives from the Loserville game and pass Johnson on the depth chart? Can Trent take the spot from both of them? Whoever is hitting the three, should play.

Will the Analytics prove Pope correct? He gave up on shooters for defense and physicality. I will be paying attention to the 3 point percentages and rate per game. Pope may have to adjust this part of his offense if our shooting woes continue.
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I like that rotation. Plug Noah in as needed IF his shot is falling.
 
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chasingwildcat

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Develop Jasper and Kam in regular season

Top 8 guys:
DA
Chandler
Oweh
Jelavic
JQ

Lowe
Moreno
Mo

And ninth guy to be determined. If Jasper is still far from finish, play Kam as 9th guy
 
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wkycatfan7 said:
This season is gonna be about riding the hot hand imo, could be different each game. That said, I like Aberdeen, Chandler, and Moreno for sure.
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I agree with this but I think this is a hard way to build a quality game plan night in and night out. Without having a reliable go to guy to run your game plan through, you're just waiting to see which player steps up each night.
 
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chasingwildcat

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ChicagoCat90 said:
I agree with this but I think this is a hard way to build a quality game plan night in and night out. Without having a reliable go to guy to run your game plan through, you're just waiting to see which player steps up each night.
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I think DA will finally be go to guy in our roster

Because he has a all around game, could drive, could shoot. And he is pretty tall for PG, 6-5. Pretty athletic.

But if you want to be championship level team, DA should not be go to guy, he is Martin/Richard but not Clayton.

If it is some combination like Dent/Aberdeen or Wilkerson/Aberdeen, I would say we have best backcourt in country
 
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JonathanW2

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First of all, I think of focusing on starting lineups is silly. You can have a start play just 20mpg (or even less like BCG did) and you can have guys on the bench playing >20mpg. Also, you can have different combinations on the court together, guys playing at multiple positions. So I prefer to think of minute projections. Here are mine (before JQ starts playing, and after JQ starts playing), how I would divide the minutes.

before JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
23 Dioubate
21 Lowe
20 Moreno
18 Chandler
18 Johnson
15 Jelavic
15 Garrison
13 Williams
8 Noah

after JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
22 Quaintance
22 Dioubate
20 Lowe
18 Moreno
17 Chandler
17 Johnson
14 Jelavic
12 Williams
5 Garrison
4 Noah
 
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megablue

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JonathanW2 said:
First of all, I think of focusing on starting lineups is silly. You can have a start play just 20mpg (or even less like BCG did) and you can have guys on the bench playing >20mpg. Also, you can have different combinations on the court together, guys playing at multiple positions. So I prefer to think of minute projections. Here are mine (before JQ starts playing, and after JQ starts playing), how I would divide the minutes.

before JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
23 Dioubate
21 Lowe
20 Moreno
18 Chandler
18 Johnson
15 Jelavic
15 Garrison
13 Williams
8 Noah

after JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
22 Quaintance
22 Dioubate
20 Lowe
18 Moreno
17 Chandler
17 Johnson
14 Jelavic
12 Williams
5 Garrison
4 Noah
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Look at the minutes from last night .. Aberdeen, Chandler, Lowe and Oweh ... do you think they all played too many minutes ?? I may be wrong, but I do not see the quality depth that you do. CMP will figure it out, but I just think we can only play 7-8 against the quality teams. Go extended minutes with your best five ... in my opinion.
 
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Catsfan2025

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^^^^^^ Jonathan W2. LOL, HTF do you "assign" minutes to players ? NO coach in the world (outside of maybe Upward Bound or something similar) sits down and map out minutes for all of the players. If you don't mind, explain to me how Lowe's minutes goes from 21 to 20 with JQ in the lineup ??????? See how dumb that is ? JQ and Lowe do not play and position similar on the court, but Lowe's minutes go down ? LOL, Jasper lost a minute also. A PG losses minutes because a Center comes back ???? BG, MM, or Jelavic would make a little sense, but Lowe / Jasper????????? Maybe go outside and draw up some plays in the dirt and take pictures and post them for all of us to see. Maybe some defensive sets also, I bet they would be VERY "interesting".
 
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Eagles_Ball_69

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JonathanW2 said:
First of all, I think of focusing on starting lineups is silly. You can have a start play just 20mpg (or even less like BCG did) and you can have guys on the bench playing >20mpg. Also, you can have different combinations on the court together, guys playing at multiple positions. So I prefer to think of minute projections. Here are mine (before JQ starts playing, and after JQ starts playing), how I would divide the minutes.

before JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
23 Dioubate
21 Lowe
20 Moreno
18 Chandler
18 Johnson
15 Jelavic
15 Garrison
13 Williams
8 Noah

after JQ starts playing:
25 Oweh
24 Aberdeen
22 Quaintance
22 Dioubate
20 Lowe
18 Moreno
17 Chandler
17 Johnson
14 Jelavic
12 Williams
5 Garrison
4 Noah
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That's way too many players playing 12+ mins.
 
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catfanlou

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Lowe should play as much as he can. He decides when he wants to come out or go back in. Different team with him at helm. I understand he needs to play limited minutes now particularly against cupcakes to rebuild his strength .
Garrison should be encouraged to transfer between semesters . Best for him and for us .
OO needs to get under control or sit . Aberdeen and DA should also be on the court 25 minutes plus depending on upon game situation.
Moreno is special and should be on court as much as he can until our big guy returns . CC should contnue to get major minutes as should Cam Williams . CC subbing for both Lowe and Aberdeen . Willian’s subbing for DA and OO. JJ special also needs as many minutes as coach can find for him in backup role . Jelavic needs to be in rotation as well for 12 or so minutes as needed .
I don’t know what to say about Noah .
but biggest thing is to give Lowe as many minutes as possible . Different team with him in and as a former point guard it all starts with the point guard.
 
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Noledynasty2490

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Give Garrisons minutes to Jelavic. If he wants to cry and transfer about it, oh well
 

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Eagles_Ball_69

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  • Aberdeen
  • Chandler
  • Oweh
  • Moreno
  • I can't decide who to play at the 4. MO is such a bad fit for this roster, except he's just a stud defensively and on the glass. But he just doesn't have an offensive fit. I think the best version is probably with Williams or Jelavich and just play small ball. There's a reason the NBA scouts like Kam so much, and I honestly think he's probably better suited to play 4 and be a matchup problem. If JQ comes back and is healthy this becomes much easier, as he's an elite rim protector.

  • Lowe is first guard off the bench, but man, he's got to defend. Offense is better with him, but he was Reed/Dilly bad on D last night. Just gave up straight line drive after straight line drive.
  • JJ gets 5th guard mins, and there are plenty to get. That five dudes for three spots.
  • Jelly or Kam, whichever doesn't start gets backup 4 mins
  • Situationally split Garrison and MO at the 5. Honestly, I have no clue why Pope continues to lean on Garrison. He was so bad defensively last night (and most of last year) in P&R and DHO's. They just had him turning his head 100 different directions and always on skates.
 
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JonathanW2

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megablue said:
Look at the minutes from last night .. Aberdeen, Chandler, Lowe and Oweh ... do you think they all played too many minutes ?? I may be wrong, but I do not see the quality depth that you do. CMP will figure it out, but I just think we can only play 7-8 against the quality teams. Go extended minutes with your best five ... in my opinion.
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It close games or games we are down (like last night), you will see a bigger separation, but in games where we win by 10+ you will see it even more balanced than I showed. What I estimated was an average.
 
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MidseasonTweak

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I just want to see more Kam now. Don't let that positive burst of confidence go to waste. Reward him with more opportunities. Oweh/Garrison are getting unearned minutes. If Kam regresses, so be it, but I'd like to see him more for now
 
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JonathanW2

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Catsfan2025 said:
^^^^^^ Jonathan W2. LOL, HTF do you "assign" minutes to players ? NO coach in the world (outside of maybe Upward Bound or something similar) sits down and map out minutes for all of the players. If you don't mind, explain to me how Lowe's minutes goes from 21 to 20 with JQ in the lineup ??????? See how dumb that is ? JQ and Lowe do not play and position similar on the court, but Lowe's minutes go down ? LOL, Jasper lost a minute also. A PG losses minutes because a Center comes back ???? BG, MM, or Jelavic would make a little sense, but Lowe / Jasper????????? Maybe go outside and draw up some plays in the dirt and take pictures and post them for all of us to see. Maybe some defensive sets also, I bet they would be VERY "interesting".
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Don't be stupid. I never used the word/phrase "assign" minutes. It's basic math, these are the averages I expect to see, in close games seeing a bigger separation (top 5-6 to others), and in 10+ pt wins a more balanced approach.

How would Lowe's minutes go down by 1 adding in a C. That is a good question, for which I have a good answer. His 1 minute at PG could go to Aberdeen, who could lose 2min at 2G to Lowe, who could lose 3min at SF to Williams, and so on up the positional ladder.
Notice Garrison takes the biggest bump, losing 10min w/ the addition of JQ.
 
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JonathanW2

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Eagles_Ball_69 said:
That's way too many players playing 12+ mins.
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Probably right. But it's been done before. However you nor I are in practice every day seeing who is earning minutes or not. So it's not as easy for us to divide minutes optimally as it is a coach who watches them compete every day. Also, guys get hot and guys go into slumps. This kind of depth allows you to reward a "hot" player with more minutes, or bench a cold guy, which creates more balanced AVERAGES. But those would not necessarily be the same playing times every game.
 
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GoCATSGo77

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The problem is no matter how you slice it, we will have either a poor shooting team (3 non-shooters: current starting line-up) or a poor defensive team if we play the shooters more.

I love Lowe and his confidence offensively, but he's a baddddd defensive player. Aberdeen hustles but he ain't it defensively either.
 
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KYSouthpaw

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This is how I would do it just from observing the team...not taking into account NIL$, years of experience, or media expectations...

1. Lowe/Aberdeen/JJ
2. Chandler/Aberdeen/JJ
3. Oweh/Dioubate/Noah
4. Williams/Jelavic/Dioubate
5 now. Moreno/Garrison/Dioubate/Jelavic
5 later. JQ/Moreno/Garrison

I'm still baffled where to play Dioubate, but I don't want him in the game with Oweh and Garrison. I definitely want him playing significant minutes as our "enforcer" and the guy who gets the tough rebound.

For me, he's the piece that doesn't fit exactly right, but might be the "glue guy" at the same time.
 
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