Zaha Hadid RIP
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Where will the world find another architect whom can design and construct a fire station wherein the firetrucks can't fit?*
*That was an urban legend apparently. But I stand by my rhetoric:
That's a nice contemporary art center. Let me design an empty art gallery with 70% circulation space and I can show you some thangs too.
*That was an urban legend apparently. But I stand by my rhetoric:
That's a nice contemporary art center. Let me design an empty art gallery with 70% circulation space and I can show you some thangs too.
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****** buildings
****** attitude
****** human rights position.
But, uhhh... My sincerest condolences.
Seriously, though. No one deserves to die for the first two things on my list.
****** attitude
****** human rights position.
But, uhhh... My sincerest condolences.
Seriously, though. No one deserves to die for the first two things on my list.
I see that our resident Paddock architects have vented much vitriol against someone who has had a chance of designing buildings with unchecked budgets/freedoms, full-knowing their own careers are to be considered compromised, insignificant, contributions to built mediocrity (at best).
But hey, enjoy that.
It's okay. I've come full circle on these matters. I used to be pissed about the dichotomy of the profession . Now I just work tirelessly and quietly for the 'man' and cheer on those starchitects who can turn a buck and fleece the idiots buying the dream.
But hey, enjoy that.
It's okay. I've come full circle on these matters. I used to be pissed about the dichotomy of the profession . Now I just work tirelessly and quietly for the 'man' and cheer on those starchitects who can turn a buck and fleece the idiots buying the dream.
She didn't turn a buck on ****. Run the numbers.
As with most starchitects, she was the "artistic" child of the wealthy (Iraqi Industrialists). That shoud I read: she was too dumb to excel at a profession that would actually make "real money" for the family business so she took up architecture (which seems like a intellectually tough profession, but isn't).
Instead, she stocked up on meaningless degrees, dicked around with paper architecture, and taught theory on her family's dime for decades. When she actually got a commission then she hired "real architects" to do the actual work.
There is no doubt that she operated at a net loss if you start the accounting at the moment she called herself an architect.
And she was a stone cold *****, by all accounts.
For my background, I spent all of my time working for billionaires in NYC with no budgets in sight (I didn't know what "V.E." meant until I moved back home.) It was mostly "cocktail party" apartments and upstate residential stuff. I designed $17k custom concrete bathtubs, etc. I have no qualms about my bona fides vis-a-vis that over-hyped cow.
Please post the years you attend Arch. school so we can confirm your sad bias as to her genius. I'm sure you attended in her laughable prime.
As with most starchitects, she was the "artistic" child of the wealthy (Iraqi Industrialists). That shoud I read: she was too dumb to excel at a profession that would actually make "real money" for the family business so she took up architecture (which seems like a intellectually tough profession, but isn't).
Instead, she stocked up on meaningless degrees, dicked around with paper architecture, and taught theory on her family's dime for decades. When she actually got a commission then she hired "real architects" to do the actual work.
There is no doubt that she operated at a net loss if you start the accounting at the moment she called herself an architect.
And she was a stone cold *****, by all accounts.
For my background, I spent all of my time working for billionaires in NYC with no budgets in sight (I didn't know what "V.E." meant until I moved back home.) It was mostly "cocktail party" apartments and upstate residential stuff. I designed $17k custom concrete bathtubs, etc. I have no qualms about my bona fides vis-a-vis that over-hyped cow.
Please post the years you attend Arch. school so we can confirm your sad bias as to her genius. I'm sure you attended in her laughable prime.
Guess again... Zaha was painting at the AA when I was at school 87-92.
IMHO There hasn't been an architectural genius since Lou Kahn died. I've worked 2 tours all over this town for starchitects hoping that some magic would rub off on lil ol me.
But after many frustrating years of disdain from seeing behind the curtain, I've come to realize that these business people are no different than rap music artists. They appeal to the unwashed, have little to no talent, build a brand through self-promotion then fade after a few years as a fad.
Nothing wrong with rap or gimmick buildings. Are they timeless art? Nah. But I can't blame someone for reaching for the gold coin.
I hate the profession, but it's a living.
RIP Zaha.
BTW: her Highline building is pretty cool.
IMHO There hasn't been an architectural genius since Lou Kahn died. I've worked 2 tours all over this town for starchitects hoping that some magic would rub off on lil ol me.
But after many frustrating years of disdain from seeing behind the curtain, I've come to realize that these business people are no different than rap music artists. They appeal to the unwashed, have little to no talent, build a brand through self-promotion then fade after a few years as a fad.
Nothing wrong with rap or gimmick buildings. Are they timeless art? Nah. But I can't blame someone for reaching for the gold coin.
I hate the profession, but it's a living.
RIP Zaha.
BTW: her Highline building is pretty cool.
Believe it or not, that time period is what I was talking about as "her prime" - the Deconstructivist MoMA show in '88 - as a B.S painter. The buildings show her faults.
I knew you were old/successful enough to be a NYC architect living in Jersey with a Z3(?) at your disposal so I guessed at your time in college at late 80's early 90's.
Your name's not "Greg," is it?
I knew you were old/successful enough to be a NYC architect living in Jersey with a Z3(?) at your disposal so I guessed at your time in college at late 80's early 90's.
Your name's not "Greg," is it?
...but work my balls off. Not sure how many more years of this I can take. I'll be a failed architect in 10 years, found dead in Penn Station toilet stall.
Joey - who are you working for in NKY? Is it Wheaton or NBBJ? I deal with glass and glazing folks globally. Located in KY. I like to keep in touch with local designers from a local perspective as I am happy to give AIAs or do collaborative workshops for facade designers. We can do this offline if you want.
The reality of architects: wants to discuss the merits of of zaha hadid in a paddock thread. Gets peddled for a lunch and learn by a glazing vendor.
No problem, man.
I am recently registered in New York State which gives a three year grace period before I need to turn in CE credits. So I have been avoiding lunch 'n learns like the plague.
Besides that, I am also in grad school for computer science right now and am hoping to be a "Data Architect" (and a "failed architect") by the time those C.E. credits are actually due.
I am recently registered in New York State which gives a three year grace period before I need to turn in CE credits. So I have been avoiding lunch 'n learns like the plague.
Besides that, I am also in grad school for computer science right now and am hoping to be a "Data Architect" (and a "failed architect") by the time those C.E. credits are actually due.