Mine is an 8-4 or 7-5 record but tending toward the latter. I just couldn't get on board with the irrational exuberance of a mid-level Big 12 team jumping to the Big 10 and winning 9+ games.The so-called easy schedule created an unfair benchmark for Campbell with anything less than nine wins bringing out the boobirds.......well they're here. It's going to take a couple of years to right this ship. Be a little patient
I'm standing by my season prediction
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Going into the game yesterday I considered it a toss up so Wisconsin winning wasn't surprising to me. A Big 12 team playing their first BIG game was going to be a factor. This isn't what Cignetti had going to a basketball school with little or no expectations. There's going to be a steep learning curve for the coaching staff as well as the players. To me it's more on the coaching staff as they get to have their first full recruiting schedule after this season.
The Big XII stuff needs to stop
With the portal none of that matters
Agreed, but as part of a full off season. They didn't have that heading into this season.
7 of our offensive starters are from ISU. Isn't ISU in the Big 12?
RE: the Big XII stuff. I wasn't at all surprised PSU struggled at Temple. How many times as ISU players did they go on the road to play a team that had their game circled on the calendar? I'm guessing not that often if at all. Now yesterday playing the first Big 10 game against a traditional Big 10 team. Again, not surprised they lost. Hopefully and time will tell these are all great learning experiences for the coaching staff.
And now they're in the Big Ten and many would be even without Campbell if they had been willing to transfer
Is Indiana now a Big XII team after their portal grabs? Is UCLA just James Madison? Of course not. .this is all nonsense
Jesus...we didn't struggle vs Temple
I get everyone is frustrated but the overreaction to a bad loss (it was) is absurd even for this board.
If we have Howard we likely win easily...he's a gamechanger. If Rapp and Rocco didn't play the worst games of their lives we likely win. It was bad all around. We're used to escaping with wins in these situations but let's not pretend Franklin didn't lose these games aside from a 3 year span before last year.
How they respond matters. Do I think we beat Northwestern without Howard? No but I thought that before yesterday.
I’m willing to give CMC a chance. But it bothers me that he thinks HIS QB had a good game according to a post game article I read. If he truly thinks this, then he and Penn State are in big trouble. It still bothers me that he guaranteed Becht the starting QB position and ran off Grunk. I thought at the time he knows what he is doing. Now I’m not so sure.
Well, let's just try something different and maybe reduce that ISU offensive starter number to 6 next week. Starting at TB.
Did you watch Q yesterday? Awful. Cost us 6 early in the game...which ended up being the difference. 4 points left off on the board
Peoples and Hansen (when healthy) are the only two that should see the field.
I hope you're not suggesting Q should play at all after yesterday
Actually...did you notice how less effective the offense was yesterday with Hansen limited? Or did you miss that?
Who is comparing to Franklin? You? I'm just suggesting be patient. This is/was not an overnight turnover irrespective of the schefule
I'm simply suggesting that Hansen shouldn't be PSU's starting tailback. He wouldn't have made most PSU rosters in the past.
LOL he was all Big XII--he'd have been our RB 3 last year and better than in many other seasons
This delusional stuff I'm talking
He's significantly better than Q and Wallace right now--your bias against a Big XII guy is blinding you
I agree with patience and regarding it wasn't an overnight project
A lot of people are bringing up Franklin
The Big 12 sucks and Hansen couldn't carry either Skeeter Nichols' or Jon Williams' jock. Or any of 50+ other past PSU tailbacks. That in plain enough English for you?
His longest run - on 35 carries - is 16 yards. He has TWO receptions for 13 yards. This against 3 tomato cans and Wisconsin at home.
Enough already.
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They struggled early against Temple. Again first road game for new staff so I wasn’t surprised. First road game for the ISU transfers so I wasn’t surprised.
Take your own advice--enough already applies to you.
And Q has one big run and has done nothing else. We don't need him to break off 60 yard runs. Watch him in pass pro then watch Q get run over
Countless teams start slow early against cupcakes for about a half. That's just football. Temple game out like it was their SB and still did almost nothing. The game was in cruise control in the second half. I'm sorry but that's not "Struggled vs Temple". 27-3 (late score to make it 9) is never "struggled"
The offense has issues but the defense had the Temple game in control from the start.
How many do you think it will take? Kraft fired Franklin for not meeting the “standard” of winning Big and National Championships despite the fact Franklin won the last Big in his third season which was the first year he had a full complement of scholarship players. I understand his firing but you don’t do it in the middle of a season without a clear succession plan and kiss away virtually an entire recruiting class because you were upset that Franklin’s agent went around your back and went directly to the President to try to get a raise.
The talent level in the entire offensive backfield is as poor as I can remember. Someone better get Blaise Alexander on the phone and line up a QB and a TB for next season, or we are looking at sub .500 B1G records.
Yes it does Lando. Please explain to me how Penn State is going to do better in the portal than OSU, Oregon and Indiana for that matter when its NIL budget is 7th in the Big Ten. As an aside, do you still think Hansen is a great back?
Peoples and Hansen are not an elite 1-2 but plenty good enough if they'd stop mixing in the other 2 and Hansen is healthy
You realize he's been playing banged up all season, right?
Hopefully the 'Big 12 coaches' now realize this is not New Mexico State or Colorado State - and the Big 10 is a different talent level.
Over confidence by the 'experienced' QB means the defense of Big 10 teams is much better than he has ever faced.
And the new OC needs to learn just how the Big 10 designs and operates an offense against new coaches.
And the DC - the Wisky offense in hurry-up style had you wondering what was happening. Wake up !
Over confidence by the 'experienced' QB means the defense of Big 10 teams is much better than he has ever faced.
And the new OC needs to learn just how the Big 10 designs and operates an offense against new coaches.
And the DC - the Wisky offense in hurry-up style had you wondering what was happening. Wake up !
I thought Kraft fired Franklin for not meeting the “standard” of winning Big and National Championships. I also saw numerous posts on here before the season proclaiming Campbell was a superior coach to Franklin. How long shall I give Campbell before he takes off his Big Ten “training wheels”?
Again, it's not 7th--this nonsense has to stop. It's beyond pathetic anyone believes that
Hansen, when healthy, should be splitting carries with Peoples--they're the only two that should be on the field.
Franklin reached his ceiling--I think we all agree on that. It was a Mark Richt ceiling that was solid
Campbell may be better or worse than Franklin--time will tell but one loss to Wisconsin in year one doesn't determine that.
Franklin went 2-6 in the Big Ten his first year with losses to Northwestern and Maryland. Then followed that up with another poor season with losses to Temple and Northwestern. Year 3 is where I started to judge James and will be where I start to judge MC like all coaches. If in year 3 we're not where we need to be he needs to go.
Your reaction to one game is just as ridiculous as those that hate James
Sure--but no one ever said they were elite. Did they?
Your being ridiculous and you're not typically pathetic. Like man up, I get you like Franklin and you disagree with how MC built the team--he didn't have an option due to how long it took Kraft to hire someone. This year, even with Franklin, wasn't going to be great. That's just how it works.
No team has an elite player at any position every year.
Maybe Ohio State at WR
If you think Penn State lost yesterday because Howard didn’t play this team has way more problems than his unavailability. Refresh my recollection, how many games did Franklin lose to Wisky? My recollection is that Franklin was fired for not winning the “big” game and just beating the teams he should beat. Maybe it’s just me but I think beating Wisconsin in a homecoming game when you are up 17-0 qualified as one of those games a coach should win.
Not quite. You are the one who is blind. I don’t give a royal rat’s you know what about how Hansen was played in the Big 12. He’s playing in the big boy’s league now.
If Howard plays yesterday we win and, yes, that would just be masking our other issues.
I didn't say there aren't issues--did I?
Who cares how many games he lost to Wisconsin? He lost to Temple and last year lost to UCLA who was MUCH worse that this year's Wisconsin team
Franklin was fired because he was given the cooridnators he wanted and the money to build the roster then start 2-3 with losses to UCLA and Northwestern while demanding more money. He was fired for losing to teams he shouldn't have.
We should have won yesterday--bad on Campbell--no one disagree. It has nothing to do with James--at all.
He barely beat BC after struggling with Maryland.
You keep changing the argument
Define Big Time RB--all Big XII is a big time back--you want some other guys that have received that honor?
Which RB cost us 6 points yesterday?
Didn't OK State beat Oregon this year?
You realize the Big XII (well not as good as the Big Ten) is FCS football
You're trying too hard to try to attack guys that have done nothing wrong
Our team was depleted (blame Kraft) and Hansen (plus countless others) came here to help us build a competitive roster. It's a shame he's been hurt all year. Even more of a shame that people like you can't acknowledge what he's done in his career or think one run by Q means more than that.
Great point. A coach should also win homecoming when you are 20.5 pt favorites as in 2025 NW.
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