Last time Michigan was this bad…

[vkj91]

We beat them. I miss the Kyle Flood days.

 

[Bob Chaewsky_rivals]

We beat them. I miss the Kyle Flood da

People like to say he won with Schiano's players, but wait Schiano couldn't win a league championship with Schiano's players.

 

[RUChet]

People like to say he won with Schiano's players, but wait Schiano couldn't win a league championship with Schiano's players.

He did win with Schiano recruits and wasn’t able to maintain it on his own

 

[Caliknight]

Flood > Schiano

 

[vkj91]

He did win with Schiano recruits and wasn’t able to maintain it on his own

Flood would be so much better evaluating the portal

 

[rutgersal_rivals139582]

Fridge beat them, not Flood. Flood had a 4th year Gary Nova. We played them with our backup QB who is learning the ropes, and virtually no defense.

 

[Knight Shift]

Flood would be so much better evaluating the portal

Agreed, but not musical talent- Counting Crows--oof.

 

[Knight Shift]

Fridge beat them, not Flood. Flood had a 4th year Gary Nova. We played them with our backup QB who is learning the ropes, and virtually no defense.

Hey dipsheet-Flood let Fridge do his job and did not meddle or dictate or put constraints on it, something your guy does not do.

 

[vkj91]

Fridge beat them, not Flood. Flood had a 4th year Gary Nova. We played them with our backup QB who is learning the ropes, and virtually no defense.

Fridge best RU coach ever
Jerry kill second.
Row the boat 3rd
Anthony campanile 4th(will move up)
Flood 5th

sure im missing someone but it ain’t schiano

 

[drewbagel423]

People like to say he won with Schiano's players, but wait Schiano couldn't win a league championship with Schiano's players.

There's no way Greg even gets a sniff at the old conference championship against Louisville like Flood did that one year.

 

[Bueller]

Michigan was bad in 2014 (ended at 5-7). Everybody knew the coach, Brady Hoke, was going to be fired.
In the she same 2014 season RU should have beat Penn St in eventual 13-10 loss.
I never forget that game because PSU's secondary coach PROMISED his unit FOUR INTs and they got FIVE.

TurNOVA

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

People like to say he won with Schiano's players, but wait Schiano couldn't win a league championship with Schiano's players.

Yep and it’s a very fair point.

The 2012 class was truly good, 2011 waaay over rated but GS left an empty cupboard at DB that was a major issue for Flood that was the seedling of the entire dismantling of the program.

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

Flood > Schiano

Would be nice to take the best of both.

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

Fridge beat them, not Flood. Flood had a 4th year Gary Nova. We played them with our backup QB who is learning the ropes, and virtually no defense.

Who hired Fridge?

Fridge was there in 2014 but how many years was Nova in Flood’s program prior?

Schiano had 5th year Teel. How did 2008 go? By your logic, it should have gone waaay better than it did, no?

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

Hey dipsheet-Flood let Fridge do his job and did not meddle or dictate or put constraints on it, something your guy does not do.

 

[koleszar]

Fridge best RU coach ever
Jerry kill second.
Row the boat 3rd
Anthony campanile 4th(will move up)
Flood 5th

sure im missing someone but it ain’t schiano

Do like the list'

Remember Fridge's parting shot at Flood when he left. Something along the lines of, when I'm working, I would expect everyone else to be working and in the building. At the time, it was reported Flood would leave early to have dinner with his family and leave everyone else to do film study and gameplan.

 

[Knight Shift]

Do like the list'

Remember Fridge's parting shot at Flood when he left. Something along the lines of, when I'm working, I would expect everyone else to be working and in the building. At the time, it was reported Flood would leave early to have dinner with his family and leave everyone else to do film study and gameplan.

Yeah, that was a bad look. But Flood was getting a bit more than minimum wage and he had a target on his back. Personally, if that were me, I would hammer down and say F it, I'm going to work my butt off and show my stupid boss I'm up to the job. But some people say F it, why try, I'm gonna get fired anyway. Don't agree with that logic, but can understand it.

 

[koleszar]

There's no way Greg even gets a sniff at the old conference championship against Louisville like Flood did that one year.

HUH?

2006 West Virginia loss in OT 41-39, win that one and we get the BCS bid as we beat Louisville head to head but would have shared the conference title with them. You remember the nonfumble call on a clear fumble by Slayton and the drop TD by Townsend game.

Or 2011 an 8-3 Rutgers just beat a 4-7 UConn team and you win a share of the conference title. Only to get curb stomped 40-22. I know I was there.

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

Yeah, that was a bad look. But Flood was getting a bit more than minimum wage and he had a target on his back. Personally, if that were me, I would hammer down and say F it, I'm going to work my butt off and show my stupid boss I'm up to the job. But some people say F it, why try, I'm gonna get fired anyway. Don't agree with that logic, but can understand it.

There is nuance to all of this history. Don’t get me wrong, I’m sold that Schiano works harder than Flood did but ‘hours worked’ is not necessarily the ultimate metric and working 12+ hours a day to try and outwork your peers isn’t necessarily a good thing.

Regarding Fridge, while Flood traveled to visit recruits, Fridge was home. There are only so many hours in a week. In any case, maybe the more important point is Flood has proven to work hard enough to hold down jobs at Alabama and now Texas for 5-6 years, making more $ than he did at Rutgers.

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

HUH?

2006 West Virginia loss in OT 41-39, win that one and we get the BCS bid as we beat Louisville head to head but would have shared the conference title with them. You remember the nonfumble call on a clear fumble by Slayton and the drop TD by Townsend game.

Or 2011 an 8-3 Rutgers just beat a 4-7 UConn team and you win a share of the conference title. Only to get curb stomped 40-22. I know I was there.

He meant that in 2012, Schiano wouldn’t have done as well as Flood did.

 

[Bueller]

HUH?

2006 West Virginia loss in OT 41-39, win that one and we get the BCS bid as we beat Louisville head to head but would have shared the conference title with them. You remember the nonfumble call on a clear fumble by Slayton and the drop TD by Townsend game.

Or 2011 an 8-3 Rutgers just beat a 4-7 UConn team and you win a share of the conference title. Only to get curb stomped 40-22. I know I was there.

That was a nasty game (UConn). RU had beaten Cincy (with Munchie) the week before and team was riding high. UConn was pumped to spoil and RU was lost in the clouds. A problem Schiano had was when his team had a big win he didn't bring them back to earth for next game. The best coaches know how to keep teams grounded.

The 2006 Cincy game thrashing (30-11) after Louisville should never have happened.. But players were doing media interviews all week and TV/print were throwing bouquets like RU just won the Super Bowl. Greg always had a "the kids deserve acclaim" attitude. Nobody was thinking about Cincy (except Thompson, Britt and Clark). Teel throws 4 INTs, Ray Rice and Leonard combine for 57 yds rushing. The 2011 UConn game was the same thing. RU beat UConn two years in a row including the Tim Brown Halloween slap. UConn was amped to play spoiler. One thing about football is that even a mediocre team can be nuclear if they get pumped for real.

 

[koleszar]

He meant that in 2012, Schiano wouldn’t have done as well as Flood did.

What like not blitzing a one-legged Teddy Bridgewater? I will give him credit for the fake field goal, great call and 2.5 yds. downfield is not 3 like the rule states and nobody calls it when it's that close except that dick. It usually has to be egregious and well past 3 yds.

 

[jsol_05]

HUH?

2006 West Virginia loss in OT 41-39, win that one and we get the BCS bid as we beat Louisville head to head but would have shared the conference title with them. You remember the nonfumble call on a clear fumble by Slayton and the drop TD by Townsend game.

Or 2011 an 8-3 Rutgers just beat a 4-7 UConn team and you win a share of the conference title. Only to get curb stomped 40-22. I know I was there.

Did you just say "if" ?

 

[koleszar]

Did you just say "if" ?

Yeah, he said Schiano would never sniff getting close to the conference championship and I pointed out the painful times that he did. And also, if he meant just 2012, that defense with those seniors ran itself. It's actually a crime that Flood went 9-4 with the talent on that team.

 

[tico brown]

He did win with Schiano recruits and wasn’t able to maintain it on his own

At least HE WON.

Schiano couldnt even win with “Schiano Recruits.”

 

[tico brown]

There's no way Greg even gets a sniff at the old conference championship against Louisville like Flood did that one year.

Michigan was bad in 2014 (ended at 5-7). Everybody knew the coach, Brady Hoke, was going to be fired.
In the she same 2014 season RU should have beat Penn St in eventual 13-10 loss.
I never forget that game because PSU's secondary coach PROMISED his unit FOUR INTs and they got FIVE.

TurNOVA

The same way Schiano and the best offense he had in 2.0 couldn’t beat a Penn State team with an Interim HC that couldn’t wait till the season was over.

 

[RUChet]

At least HE WON.

Schiano couldnt even win with “Schiano Recruits.”

You may be right

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

That was a nasty game (UConn). RU had beaten Cincy (with Munchie) the week before and team was riding high. UConn was pumped to spoil and RU was lost in the clouds. A problem Schiano had was when his team had a big win he didn't bring them back to earth for next game. The best coaches know how to keep teams grounded.

The 2006 Cincy game thrashing (30-11) after Louisville should never have happened.. But players were doing media interviews all week and TV/print were throwing bouquets like RU just won the Super Bowl. Greg always had a "the kids deserve acclaim" attitude. Nobody was thinking about Cincy (except Thompson, Britt and Clark). Teel throws 4 INTs, Ray Rice and Leonard combine for 57 yds rushing. The 2011 UConn game was the same thing. RU beat UConn two years in a row including the Tim Brown Halloween slap. UConn was amped to play spoiler. One thing about football is that even a mediocre team can be nuclear if they get pumped for real.

There are many reasons why some of us believe that Schiano has a 9 win ceiling, regardless of resources and what you describe is one of them.

I was at that UConn game. They were 4-7. One might argue that was the biggest game since the remainder of the 2006 season after Lville and the team laid a total egg.

 

[RU on Manns Planet]

Yeah, he said Schiano would never sniff getting close to the conference championship and I pointed out the painful times that he did. And also, if he meant just 2012, that defense with those seniors ran itself. It's actually a crime that Flood went 9-4 with the talent on that team.

The offense was bad. Only so far a good D can take you and when Rutgers played the 3 teams* with good DLs, the offense was rendered in the fetal position. Can’t win when your OL is dominated.

*Pitt, Va Tech and Lville I think

 

[Phantom Clip]

Fridge best RU coach ever
Jerry kill second.
Row the boat 3rd
Anthony campanile 4th(will move up)
Flood 5th

sure im missing someone but it ain’t schiano

Darren Rizzi. Great recruiter. He was the lead recruiter on alot of the big time players from that time.

 

[Randal7]

Fridge beat them, not Flood. Flood had a 4th year Gary Nova. We played them with our backup QB who is learning the ropes, and virtually no defense.

Who hired fridge? Who gave fridge the latitude to call the plays?
And while we’re answering questions - Who’s a massive jackass?