NCAA MBB Tournament Selection thread

Tom McAndrew

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please use this thread to discuss the selection show, where teams are slotted, etc.
 

Bison13

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Surprised Michigan was in at 11 ahead of Indiana who is a first 4 game
 

delcoLion

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Surprised that Nova got a 2 seed. Surprised Michigan & Notre Dame got in. I like Arizona to go the distance right now.
 

PineIslandLion

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With Rutgers in a play in game, reasonable to assume they wouldn’t be dancing had PSU upset them last Sunday, which they came ever so close to doing.
 
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Erial_Lion

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With Rutgers in a play in game, reasonable to assume they wouldn’t be dancing had PSU upset them last Sunday, which they came ever so close to doing.
It would have changed things, since then they aren’t the #4 seed in Indy and have a different path.
 

IrishHerb

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One thing I don't understand about the play-in games ... always thought those were for the #16 seed in each regional. But now I see them playing for a #11 seed, #12 seed, etc. If 2 teams aren't good enough to make the 64 team bracket, how is it possible for them to be playing-in for a #11 seed?
 

LionJim

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One thing I don't understand about the play-in games ... always thought those were for the #16 seed in each regional. But now I see them playing for a #11 seed, #12 seed, etc. If 2 teams aren't good enough to make the 64 team bracket, how is it possible for them to be playing-in for a #11 seed?
This started three or four years ago.
 

IrishHerb

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This started three or four years ago.
Yes, and doesn't really make sense. Theoretically the four 16 seeds are the lowest ranked teams in the 64 team bracket. So if the NCAA is increasing it to 68 teams, then the 8 lowest ranked teams should be playing-in for the #16 seeds. I just don't understand the reasoning here.
 

Erial_Lion

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Yes, and doesn't really make sense. Theoretically the four 16 seeds are the lowest ranked teams in the 64 team bracket. So if the NCAA is increasing it to 68 teams, then the 8 lowest ranked teams should be playing-in for the #16 seeds. I just don't understand the reasoning here.
It was all part of the compromise to expand the tournament...it was 64 with 30 auto bids and 34 at-large selections. A 31st conference was formed, and the "big boys" didn't want the auto-bids cut down, so they moved from 64 to 65, keeping the 34 at-large selections and having 64 play 65 for the right to be a 16 seed. Then a 32nd conference was added, they expanded again, and all agreed to move from 65 to 68, with 32 auto bids, and 36 at-large. As part of the expansion, the smaller conferences didn't want to all lose their spots, so an agreement was reached that teams 65 thru 68 would play each other for 2 of those 16 seeds, and the last 4 at-large teams would play either other for the other two extra spots, slotting into whatever position they would fall in the bracket.
 
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Erial_Lion

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Looking at the host cities, I think the NCAA needs to get a map.
The regions apply to the locations of the Regional Semifinal/Regional Final...for the first round games, top seeds are kept as close to home as possible as a reward. Moving to this "pod" system allowed them a lot more flexibility in filling out the bracket.
 

LionJim

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Seth Greenberg has Gonzaga, Kentucky, Arizona, and Iowa as his final four, with Arizona winning it all.
 

Erial_Lion

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Not only dancing, but as an 11 seed, they weren't even on the bubble.
I would have easily had them in…they played an extremely tough non-conference schedule, 7 wins over other tournament teams, only two questionable losses (and no shame in the loss at UCF), metrics like them. Pretty much everyone that looks at this seriously had them in.
 

RockyMtnLion

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The regions apply to the locations of the Regional Semifinal/Regional Final...for the first round games, top seeds are kept as close to home as possible as a reward. Moving to this "pod" system allowed them a lot more flexibility in filling out the bracket.
And increased the likelihood of full stands, which I believe was the criteria used.
 

LionJim

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And increased the likelihood of full stands, which I believe was the criteria used.
Sure. It’s business. The Connecticut women will once again be playing in Storrs; they have home court advantage just about every year. Tennessee used to have that same advantage back in the day, themselves.
 
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I heard on Sirius College Sports radio that Jameer Nelson (guard from St. Joe’s Elite Eight run) has a son playing for Delaware that just made the tournament. Hearing this really hit me in the gut! I looked up Jameer’s birthdate and I was a sophomore in high school in 82. While I wasn’t hooking up at that age, it makes me old enough to have a grandson in the NCAA tournament.
 
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