OT: Reaching my breaking point with pro sports

[18IsTheMan]

I recently posted about the MLB strike and how I was very nearly on my last straw with pro sports, and I'm now being nudged ever closer to the edge. Just prior to the kickoff of the Yankees' season, it was announced that Aaron Judge had rejected the team's offer of 7 years $213 million...$30.5 million per year. As a disclaimer, I'm a life-long Yankees fan and have always respected Judge as a quiet, go about your business kind of player. But, man, this has really soured me. Setting aside that Judge has been injury prone and is already 29 years old...which makes the team's offer seem quite reasonable, generous even...how much stinking money does a person need? It's reported that he wanted 9 years and more than $30.5 million/year. When I was a kid and these kinds of megadeals were announced, I would be kind of star struck by the numbers. Now it just sickens me. I mean, $30.5 million/year isn't enough to play baseball? Players are often quick to point out that baseball is a business, often implicating management with that statement, but whatever happened to players who were happy to play, even though they had work as car salesman and work in hardware stores during the offseason to make ends meet?

I dunno. This just rubs me the wrong way. There's nothing particularly shocking about the numbers or the idea of a player turning down a big offer. I guess it's largely because Judge has presented himself as a workmanlike kind of guy who wasn't concerned with all the financial stuff.

I just can't wrap my mind around the notion that $30.5 million isn't enough. I suppose maybe it'd be a different story if he a had a larger offer on the table (which he doesn't b/c he won't hit free agency until after the season), but even then, for a guy who has loudly proclaimed that he wants to be a Yankee for life, this just rots.

 

[winloseortie]

I get it. The only thing I can say is that players are always the ones getting pilloried about money. Nobody complains about the astronomical profit owners make. I know that does not help but it helps me remember that the owners are...... well i’ll just stop

 

[18IsTheMan]

I get it. The only thing I can say is that players are always the ones getting pilloried about money. Nobody complains about the astronomical profit owners make. I know that does not help but it helps me remember that the owners are...... well i’ll just stop

Well, yeah, no matter the business, whether it's a meat and three diner or an MLB franchise, owners will always poor mouth when it comes time to talk raises etc.

But, considering all factors, this was at the bare minimum a very, very, very fair offer. Some would even say it was generous when you consider his age and injury history and his long-term projections. Even though you'd still be talking money in the tens of millions of dollars per year, I guess I'd understand if the Yankees came out with an insulting offer, but this was a good offer. It just runs counter for a guy who has always portrayed himself as being above the ugly, money side of the game.

 

[Prestonite]

I recently posted about the MLB strike and how I was very nearly on my last straw with pro sports, and I'm now being nudged ever closer to the edge. Just prior to the kickoff of the Yankees' season, it was announced that Aaron Judge had rejected the team's offer of 7 years $213 million...$30.5 million per year. As a disclaimer, I'm a life-long Yankees fan and have always respected Judge as a quiet, go about your business kind of player. But, man, this has really soured me. Setting aside that Judge has been injury prone and is already 29 years old...which makes the team's offer seem quite reasonable, generous even...how much stinking money does a person need? It's reported that he wanted 9 years and more than $30.5 million/year. When I was a kid and these kinds of megadeals were announced, I would be kind of star struck by the numbers. Now it just sickens me. I mean, $30.5 million/year isn't enough to play baseball? Players are often quick to point out that baseball is a business, often implicating management with that statement, but whatever happened to players who were happy to play, even though they had work as car salesman and work in hardware stores during the offseason to make ends meet?

I dunno. This just rubs me the wrong way. There's nothing particularly shocking about the numbers or the idea of a player turning down a big offer. I guess it's largely because Judge has presented himself as a workmanlike kind of guy who wasn't concerned with all the financial stuff.

I just can't wrap my mind around the notion that $30.5 million isn't enough. I suppose maybe it'd be a different story if he a had a larger offer on the table (which he doesn't b/c he won't hit free agency until after the season), but even then, for a guy who has loudly proclaimed that he wants to be a Yankee for life, this just rots.

Tuned out on watching pro sports years ago and have not regretted it a bit. I admit I do monitor some scores and news but do not miss watching at all for the same reasons you mentioned. Some players just rub me the wrong way with their attitudes. Unfortunately college sports seem to be headed in the same direction.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

But, man, this has really soured me. Setting aside that Judge has been injury prone and is already 29 years old...which makes the team's offer seem quite reasonable, generous even...how much stinking money does a person need? It's reported that he wanted 9 years and more than $30.5 million/year.

This no doubt is why he is asking for the 9 year deal. Just like Freeman, they both know that by 34-35, that only in the rarest of cases that the physical skills do not begin to diminish, and that in turn will also diminish any bargaining power they may have.
I agree 30.5 is astronomical and none of us can even begin to imagine having that kind of value, but if you can command that kind of income, then raise a glass and toast to your good fortune.

 

[18IsTheMan]

This no doubt is why he is asking for the 9 year deal. Just like Freeman, they both know that by 34-35, that only in the rarest of cases that the physical skills do not begin to diminish, and that in turn will also diminish any bargaining power they may have.
I agree 30.5 is astronomical and none of us can even begin to imagine having that kind of value, but if you can command that kind of income, then raise a glass and toast to your good fortune.

Unless he turns in a monster season and stays off the DL, it's highly unlikely any other team would offer him in the neighborhood of $30.5 million/year.

I suppose it's mostly disappointing to see that even someone who has portrayed himself as being above the usual greed of the game falls victim to it the same as everyone else.

 

[The Reel Ess]

A recent poll showed that a very small percentage of young people care about MLB. They're dying if they don't change something soon.

 

[atl-cock]

All pro sports are businesses - in the entertainment industry,
Wish the owner/player relationship could be collaborative rather than adversarial.

 

[atl-cock]

A recent poll showed that a very small percentage of young people care about MLB. They're dying if they don't change something soon.

I dislike interleague play, the designated hitter, and the automatic intentional walk.

 

[Cackmandu]

I recently posted about the MLB strike and how I was very nearly on my last straw with pro sports, and I'm now being nudged ever closer to the edge. Just prior to the kickoff of the Yankees' season, it was announced that Aaron Judge had rejected the team's offer of 7 years $213 million...$30.5 million per year. As a disclaimer, I'm a life-long Yankees fan and have always respected Judge as a quiet, go about your business kind of player. But, man, this has really soured me. Setting aside that Judge has been injury prone and is already 29 years old...which makes the team's offer seem quite reasonable, generous even...how much stinking money does a person need? It's reported that he wanted 9 years and more than $30.5 million/year. When I was a kid and these kinds of megadeals were announced, I would be kind of star struck by the numbers. Now it just sickens me. I mean, $30.5 million/year isn't enough to play baseball? Players are often quick to point out that baseball is a business, often implicating management with that statement, but whatever happened to players who were happy to play, even though they had work as car salesman and work in hardware stores during the offseason to make ends meet?

I dunno. This just rubs me the wrong way. There's nothing particularly shocking about the numbers or the idea of a player turning down a big offer. I guess it's largely because Judge has presented himself as a workmanlike kind of guy who wasn't concerned with all the financial stuff.

I just can't wrap my mind around the notion that $30.5 million isn't enough. I suppose maybe it'd be a different story if he a had a larger offer on the table (which he doesn't b/c he won't hit free agency until after the season), but even then, for a guy who has loudly proclaimed that he wants to be a Yankee for life, this just rots.

See Freddie Freeman. It's a bottom line business, supply and demand! I will say if you don't have the great player's you don't have a game, but when is enough enough, as long as people pay unreasonable prices for tickets and tv pays the big deals salaries will continue to grow!

 

[18IsTheMan]

See Freddie Freeman. It's a bottom line business, supply and demand! I will say if you don't have the great player's you don't have a game, but when is enough enough, as long as people pay unreasonable prices for tickets and tv pays the big deals salaries will continue to grow!

Yeah, I get it. The Judge situation is nothing novel in pro sports. Again, I think it goes back to the fact that he's always portrayed himself as "not being about the money." Whenever the talk of eventual extension talks came up, he always brushed them off as if it was no biggie.

And, as much as I've always figured players should get what they can get, at some point you do have to ask, how much is enough? I mean, if he played out a 7 year $213 million contract, how much more does he need? How many Americans could kick back in their mid-30s, never work another day in their life and live like a king? And, it's not like someone else is going to come along and blow the Yankees' offer out of the water. He might get a little more. I suppose I just don't understand what is there to the pursuit of more just because you can get more.

The world is severely lacking in contented individuals.

 

[capngamecock]

I recently posted about the MLB strike and how I was very nearly on my last straw with pro sports, and I'm now being nudged ever closer to the edge. Just prior to the kickoff of the Yankees' season, it was announced that Aaron Judge had rejected the team's offer of 7 years $213 million...$30.5 million per year. As a disclaimer, I'm a life-long Yankees fan and have always respected Judge as a quiet, go about your business kind of player. But, man, this has really soured me. Setting aside that Judge has been injury prone and is already 29 years old...which makes the team's offer seem quite reasonable, generous even...how much stinking money does a person need? It's reported that he wanted 9 years and more than $30.5 million/year. When I was a kid and these kinds of megadeals were announced, I would be kind of star struck by the numbers. Now it just sickens me. I mean, $30.5 million/year isn't enough to play baseball? Players are often quick to point out that baseball is a business, often implicating management with that statement, but whatever happened to players who were happy to play, even though they had work as car salesman and work in hardware stores during the offseason to make ends meet?

I dunno. This just rubs me the wrong way. There's nothing particularly shocking about the numbers or the idea of a player turning down a big offer. I guess it's largely because Judge has presented himself as a workmanlike kind of guy who wasn't concerned with all the financial stuff.

I just can't wrap my mind around the notion that $30.5 million isn't enough. I suppose maybe it'd be a different story if he a had a larger offer on the table (which he doesn't b/c he won't hit free agency until after the season), but even then, for a guy who has loudly proclaimed that he wants to be a Yankee for life, this just rots.

So you're done with pro sports because Aaron Judge doesn't want to sign an extension with your favorite team? haha Spoiled Yankees fans. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to be a Yankee.

 

[18IsTheMan]

So you're done with pro sports because Aaron Judge doesn't want to sign an extension with your favorite team? haha Spoiled Yankees fans. Believe it or not, not everyone wants to be a Yankee.

You get a 0 for reading comprehension.

 

[capngamecock]

You get a 0 for reading comprehension.

Yes I read it. If he accepted the contract you'd have no issue with it I'm sure.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

I dislike interleague play, the designated hitter, and the automatic intentional walk.

Actually I like interleague play, living in Atlanta it has given me a couple of chances to see the Red Sox when they are in town. I'm sure cross town rivals
New York, Chicago, LA and SF fans enjoy those games as well.
The intentional walk I don't have any emotional attachment to really care.
The DH always brings debate.

 

[KingWard]

I get it. The only thing I can say is that players are always the ones getting pilloried about money. Nobody complains about the astronomical profit owners make. I know that does not help but it helps me remember that the owners are...... well i’ll just stop

I believe in capitalism. Part of that is my right to subscribe to or purchase some things while leaving other things alone.

 

[Cocky99]

I pretty much stopped watching professional sports years ago because of all the drama with political propaganda. Same with the Olympics.

College football all that I watch.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

The world is severely lacking in contented individuals.

As a BoSox fan, I can't help but be aware of the irony of your thread. You are unsettled that AJ has not agreed to a contract being offered by the Yanks, which in your opinion is more than anyone should and/or excessive. Yet, it was George Steinbrenner (Yankee Owner) who ushered in the era of buying and spending big to win WS for his club, and making sure everyone knew about it. The overwhelming majority of Yankee fans loved it.

 

[atl-cock]

Actually I like interleague play, living in Atlanta it has given me a couple of chances to see the Red Sox when they are in town. I'm sure cross town rivals
New York, Chicago, LA and SF fans enjoy those games as well.
The intentional walk I don't have any emotional attachment to really care.
The DH always brings debate.

To me, interleague play detracts from the World Series.
The automatic intentional walk eliminates wild pitches and the batter possibly reaching out to hit a single.
In principle, if you play in the field, you take your turn at bat.

Whether or not a bat is made of wood is of no concern to me.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

To me, interleague play detracts from the World Series.
The automatic intentional walk eliminates wild pitches and the batter possibly reaching out to hit a single.
In principle, if you play in the field, you take your turn at bat.

Whether or not a bat is made of wood is of no concern to me.

Just my take on this.
Last year our family went to the Braves-RedSox game here in Atlanta (myself the only Sox fan), the Sox won, and it was all lighthearted.
With that said if the Sox had beaten the Astros, and it came down to Braves-Sox in the series, I can assure you, from our standpoint the mid-season series was not going to be a detraction for the World Series.

 

[18IsTheMan]

As a BoSox fan, I can't help but be aware of the irony of your thread. You are unsettled that AJ has not agreed to a contract being offered by the Yanks, which in your opinion is more than anyone should and/or excessive. Yet, it was George Steinbrenner (Yankee Owner) who ushered in the era of buying and spending big to win WS for his club, and making sure everyone knew about it. The overwhelming majority of Yankee fans loved it.

That's not really the thrust of my post. It's really that AJ has presented himself as someone who was above the money part of the game. It was refreshing to hear him speak in terms that conveyed that he wasn't going to grasp for every stray penny he could get his hands on. He's always spoken like he just wanted to get a quick deal done and move on from it. Just disappointing that he's no different than anyone else. It probably shouldn't be, but the illusion was there.

But, as I noted in subsequent posts, yes, the offer is exceedingly fair, even generous. He's holding out for how much more? He might get a bit more, but nobody is going to blow the Yankees' offer out of the water. It's a stretch that anyone else would even match it, given his age and injury history. He may be able to get a few million more, but when you're making $230 million, what's a few million more?

And I also stated that my attitude towards the big money deals has changed over time.

 

[Rock Hill Cock]

I don’t believe any one player is worth that much money but it s what the market will bear. I don’t watch or follow closely any of the pro sports. What irks me is how much do these salaries cost me when I buy one of the products that pay to advertise on TV and that money is then paid to the teams for rights to broadcast.

 

[18IsTheMan]

A good read on the Yankees offer. Most GMs have privately stated the Yankees were foolish to offer a player of Judge's age and injury that kind of contract, so that doesn't bode well for free agency if he chooses that route. Judge has it in his mind that he should get Mike Trout money. He's easily among the most popular players in baseball, but he's not in Trout's galaxy for talent and production.

Bill Madden: Two wrong decisions make a right in Aaron Judge standoff

What transpired Friday in the prelude to a potential parting of the ways between the Yankees and Aaron Judge was the classic case of dumb and even dumber. For Hal Steinbrenner to offer a seven-year…

www.nydailynews.com

 

[atl-cock]

That's not really the thrust of my post. It's really that AJ has presented himself as someone who was above the money part of the game. It was refreshing to hear him speak in terms that conveyed that he wasn't going to grasp for every stray penny he could get his hands on. He's always spoken like he just wanted to get a quick deal done and move on from it. Just disappointing that he's no different than anyone else. It probably shouldn't be, but the illusion was there.

But, as I noted in subsequent posts, yes, the offer is exceedingly fair, even generous. He's holding out for how much more? He might get a bit more, but nobody is going to blow the Yankees' offer out of the water. It's a stretch that anyone else would even match it, given his age and injury history. He may be able to get a few million more, but when you're making $230 million, what's a few million more?

And I also stated that my attitude towards the big money deals has changed over time.

I wonder if for AJ it was more about respect than $$$.......

 

[18IsTheMan]

I wonder if for AJ it was more about respect than $$$.......

Well, yeah, I guess it's always about "respect." People are so full of pride. And greedy. Not a great combination. They have to make more than someone else who they deem comparable (or in this case, someone who's out of their league entirely). Per the NY Daily News article I referenced above, though, the Yankees' offer was VERY generous and more than Judge could reasonably expect to get from anyone else. We'll see how it pans out. He's betting on himself to stay healthy AND have an MVP-caliber season. SI had an article defending Judge, noting that's it's the only time in his career when he'll have this much leverage, and asserted that the Yankees are in a tight spot because Judge is irreplaceable from his popularity standpoint. He's very popular, but they aren't going to pay him >$30.5 million/yr just because fans like him. And, for that matter, fans have already started souring on him b/c everyone realizes this was a GREAT offer. It's not like the Jeter negotiations. Fans then felt Derek deserved more, and he ended up getting it. The mood of the fan base tells you a lot. In this case, the fans seem to have come down squarely on the side of management (which is very rare). Judge has consistently said he wanted to be a Yankee for life, but then he turned his nose up at a fantastic offer that would have done just that. Totally his prerogative. And if he can get a few more bucks, I guess more power to him, but I've just reached an age where this kind of stuff rubs me the wrong way and squelches my interest.

 

[atl-cock]

Well, yeah, I guess it's always about "respect." People are so full of pride. And greedy. Not a great combination. They have to make more than someone else who they deem comparable (or in this case, someone who's out of their league entirely). Per the NY Daily News article I referenced above, though, the Yankees' offer was VERY generous and more than Judge could reasonably expect to get from anyone else. We'll see how it pans out. He's betting on himself to stay healthy AND have an MVP-caliber season. SI had an article defending Judge, noting that's it's the only time in his career when he'll have this much leverage, and asserted that the Yankees are in a tight spot because Judge is irreplaceable from his popularity standpoint. He's very popular, but they aren't going to pay him >$30.5 million/yr just because fans like him. And, for that matter, fans have already started souring on him b/c everyone realizes this was a GREAT offer. It's not like the Jeter negotiations. Fans then felt Derek deserved more, and he ended up getting it. The mood of the fan base tells you a lot. In this case, the fans seem to have come down squarely on the side of management (which is very rare). Judge has consistently said he wanted to be a Yankee for life, but then he turned his nose up at a fantastic offer that would have done just that. Totally his prerogative. And if he can get a few more bucks, I guess more power to him, but I've just reached an age where this kind of stuff rubs me the wrong way and squelches my interest.

I'm not that passionate about it all, but I enjoyed reading your thoughtful response.

 

[ROCKEMSOCKEMGAMECOCKEM]

I pretty much stopped watching professional sports years ago because of all the drama with political propaganda. Same with the Olympics.

College football all that I watch.

I stopped watching MLB and Pro Basketball in the mid 90s and Pro Football with the showing of lack of respect for our country by kneeing during the National Anthem. I stopped watching the Olympics when they allowed China to host. Furthermore, I have not missed any of these sports. Prior to the Mid 90s, I was really into all sports, I knew the names of all the starter in MLB and Pro Basketball. Prior to the kneeing in Pro Football, I knew all the players names (except for the OL). I do not miss any of these. I am 72 years old, and I spend my extra time with my grandkids and great Grand child. In addition to Collage sports, I follow the PGA and the LPGA.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GO COCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[athenscock3]

As was mentioned during the Braves/Freeman negotiations how much money is enough??? Is it an ego thing?? X player at my position is making X therefore I'm demanding this much more. When I was a boy, I used to race to the mail box to get the daily Spartanburg paper to see how my favorite team the Cleveland Indians did and how many hits Al Rosen, who was born in Spartanburg, got in the game. Back then it was all about the sport with little, if any, mention of money. Now there is almost as much reporting and discussion about salary and money as there is about the game. It's dampened the sporting world for me.

 

[atl-cock]

As was mentioned during the Braves/Freeman negotiations how much money is enough??? Is it an ego thing?? X player at my position is making X therefore I'm demanding this much more. When I was a boy, I used to race to the mail box to get the daily Spartanburg paper to see how my favorite team the Cleveland Indians did and how many hits Al Rosen, who was born in Spartanburg, got in the game. Back then it was all about the sport with little, if any, mention of money. Now there is almost as much reporting and discussion about salary and money as there is about the game. It's dampened the sporting world for me.

Pendulum needed to swing since Rosen's playing days, but it has swung too much in the other direction, IMO.

 

[CAROLINA COCKTAIL]

I dislike interleague play, the designated hitter, and the automatic intentional walk.

And how about the 'Ghost" runner at 2nd base in extra innings? I know you have to love that, as well.

What chaps my *** raw is all this Bulls Hit is being done in an attempt to draw new fans who aren't interested, nor knowledgeable, in the first place.

 

[KingWard]

And how about the 'Ghost" runner at 2nd base in extra innings? I know you have to love that, as well.

What chaps my *** raw is all this Bulls Hit is being done in an attempt to draw new fans who aren't interested, nor knowledgeable, in the first place.

The great pastime has been profaned and degraded.

 

[18IsTheMan]

And how about the 'Ghost" runner at 2nd base in extra innings? I know you have to love that, as well.

What chaps my *** raw is all this Bulls Hit is being done in an attempt to draw new fans who aren't interested, nor knowledgeable, in the first place.

Yep. Why change the sport to try appealing to people who aren't interested in the sport?

All the stuff that's already been mentioned. Expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. This new electronic way of the catcher communicating with the pitcher to call pitches. Instant replay. And I hate analytics (I know many love it). We had a player who was hitting in the low .200s but they were always talking about his launch angle and exit velocity and all this nonsense. I don't care how hard you can hit the ball if it's not a hit. And I hate the way a lot of teams are using starters now. Five innings and then the bullpen.

I almost need a translation dictionary when I watch the games now b/c I don't understand half of what they're talking about.

There's always been a business side of baseball, but there was a distinct game side as well. Now it's pretty much just all business.

 

[atl-cock]

Yep. Why change the sport to try appealing to people who aren't interested in the sport?

All the stuff that's already been mentioned. Expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. This new electronic way of the catcher communicating with the pitcher to call pitches. Instant replay. And I hate analytics (I know many love it). We had a player who was hitting in the low .200s but they were always talking about his launch angle and exit velocity and all this nonsense. I don't care how hard you can hit the ball if it's not a hit. And I hate the way a lot of teams are using starters now. Five innings and then the bullpen.

I almost need a translation dictionary when I watch the games now b/c I don't understand half of what they're talking about.

What's a cutter?

 

[CAROLINA COCKTAIL]

Yep. Why change the sport to try appealing to people who aren't interested in the sport?

All the stuff that's already been mentioned. Expanding the playoffs to 12 teams. This new electronic way of the catcher communicating with the pitcher to call pitches. Instant replay. And I hate analytics (I know many love it). We had a player who was hitting in the low .200s but they were always talking about his launch angle and exit velocity and all this nonsense. I don't care how hard you can hit the ball if it's not a hit. And I hate the way a lot of teams are using starters now. Five innings and then the bullpen.

In 'Field or Dreams' James Earl Jones does a soliloquy about how baseball is what ties us all together and binds us to our past. You can't sensibly compare a 1932 Ford Coupe with a 2022 Tesla in any shape or form. But, you can compare the years ago batting averages and ERA's with today's same stats and get a true feeling for the comparison and what is actually being said and evaluated.

You don't know what you got till it's gone. Tear down a tree and put up a parking lot.

 

[CAROLINA COCKTAIL]

What's a cutter?

LOL. The pitch that made Mariano Rivera a Hall of Famer and a multi-millionaire.

 

[CAROLINA COCKTAIL]

I almost need a translation dictionary when I watch the games now b/c I don't understand half of what they're talking about.
There's always been a business side of baseball, but there was a distinct game side as well. Now it's pretty much just all business.

YES!!! AND ANOTHER THING .... LOL!!! U R 100% correct. Even the statistics are being screwed with. This new one ... OPS??? is nothing more than 2 statistics ADDED TOGETHER just to create a higher, more impressive, yet meaningless number.

On-base plus slugging (OPS) is a sabermetric baseball statistic calculated as the sum of a player's on-base percentage and slugging percentage.
A .803 OPS appears so much more impressive to the unknowledgeable than a .347 batting average. BS

 

[18IsTheMan]

YES!!! AND ANOTHER THING .... LOL!!! U R 100% correct. Even the statistics are being screwed with. This new one ... OPS??? is nothing more than 2 statistics ADDED TOGETHER just to create a higher, more impressive, yet meaningless number.

On-base plus slugging (OPS) is a sabermetric baseball statistic calculated as the sum of a player's on-base percentage and slugging percentage.
A .803 OPS appears so much more impressive to the unknowledgeable than a .347 batting average. BS

Yeah, I don't put a lot of stock in all that mumbo jumbo. My one takeaway from stats in grad school was this: you can do enough manipulations to make the numbers show something. OPS, WAR, all that stuff is goofy nonsense.

 

[gamecox4982]

Millionaires complaining about Billionaires - truly sad

 

[York cock]

This no doubt is why he is asking for the 9 year deal. Just like Freeman, they both know that by 34-35, that only in the rarest of cases that the physical skills do not begin to diminish, and that in turn will also diminish any bargaining power they may have.
I agree 30.5 is astronomical and none of us can even begin to imagine having that kind of value, but if you can command that kind of income, then raise a glass and toast to your good fortune.

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[Tngamecock]

I get it. The only thing I can say is that players are always the ones getting pilloried about money. Nobody complains about the astronomical profit owners make. I know that does not help but it helps me remember that the owners are...... well i’ll just stop

The owners have the risks….players under guaranteed contracts don’t. I would say the offer is quite fair. But then again…I don’t care about mlb