Good things for MSU: 24-team Playoff is Happening + Death of Bowls (More Week 1 Neutrals)
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Oh no, no random games in far flung cities with a team that doesn't care against some other team that also doesn't care?
I would rather have 32 than 24, getting rid of byes and guaranteeing each conference a bid, but regardless I strongly agree that it's good for MSU to have a system where 8-10 SEC teams can expect to make the playoffs.
In any given decade, we'll probably miss the playoffs more often than we make it, but in almost every year, we can go into the season thinking we have a realistic shot.
In any given decade, we'll probably miss the playoffs more often than we make it, but in almost every year, we can go into the season thinking we have a realistic shot.
I would argue that doing it in Week 1 is way better than doing it in late December/early January
The 24-team playoff model (or 32 as QuaosarsKing argues) is best for MSU. We have a legit shot to be a playoff team most seasons. It will start spreading the talent out even more. During the 4-team playoff era, 85 of the top 100 recruits went to six schools. Going to 12 has spread that out quite a bit.
Naw mane, the "yOu MuH hAtE mOrE sPoRtS" crowd is about to come after you with their nerf pitchforks.
They don't realize it's not about more sports, it's about more sports that matter. Bowls don't matter and haven't since, I would argue, a few years before he 4-team playoff. That's when folks started opting out.
I like the byes to give incentive to the top teams. I think with 24 you can still guarantee all the conferences a bid. I mean you're only talking about 6 spots out of 24, and better yet, I'd rather just take 'conference' out of it altogether and maybe just guarantee 4 spots to G6. Conference title shouldn't necessarily mean playoff berth.
Plus, they are going away from conference titles anyway.
Pay article.....what does it say about moving bowl games to preseason?
I still don't know why they can't just use the bowls for the playoff.
Think Auburn-Baylor in Atlanta or Ole Miss-Louisville in Nashville. Those type of games would be the Tier 2 bowl games that we have now. The low level bowls (Birmingham, Shreveport) would be gone. We played Oklahoma State in Houston one time in this type of matchup.
I think the New Years 6 would still be the quarterfinal/semifinal in this proposed format, but you would have two rounds on campus and the top 8 teams with a bye would get that on campus experience.
The only thing better for MSU in a system like this would be a computer ranking system being part of the mix. Right now we are 31st and 32nd in the human polls but computer rankings have us in the top 17. Duke is 15th in the computer rankings but is not getting a single vote in the human polls.
They are already bowl games at the beginning of the season. They're just not calling them bowl games. All these neutral site games between P5 teams, like Auburn playing Baylor in Atlanta, or Ole Miss playing Louisville in Nashville, are just like bowl games. Have a Big 10-SEC challenge or an ACC-Big 12 challenge week zero, like they do in pre-conference basketball. Play the games at neutral sites and call them bowl games.
I'd rather they be played on campus but this one of those things that can be compromised, IMO
If they do this they need to include hiring freezes until after the season is over. You can't have playoff teams losing their coaches for the playoffs.
Most of them aren't retarded enough to actually give up that chance of a lifetime like Kiffin was.
There have been coaches every year that don't coach their team in the bowl games. You can say that, but there will always be a chance someone else does it. It just needs to be a rule that they need to wait until after the National Championship game.
I hate byes especially with the games spaced out so far. When UMiss played Georgia, Georgia hadn’t played a game in a month. Not much of an incentive.
I just think teams that go 8-4 should get some sort if reward for having a solid season and Bowl Games do that. With 24 teams in the playoff, the Top 4 still get a huge advantage but now 4 more teams could gain an advantage. And with 24 teams they will be 8-4 teams qualifying over other 8-4 teams . So some 8-4 teams will get rewarded while others sit at home because the 24 team playoff killed the bowls. Now several of the bowls need to go away but not all of them. The Bowls that remain would be like the NIT of football.
I think these bowls should survive because the 1st 2 rounds will be in home stadiums.
Citrus
Vegas
Holiday
Texas
Nashville
Tampa
Jacksonville
Military
I think these bowls should survive because the 1st 2 rounds will be in home stadiums.
Citrus
Vegas
Holiday
Texas
Nashville
Tampa
Jacksonville
Military
The problem is that once the playoffs go to 24, the teams who miss out on it are going to be even less interested in bowls that current teams are.
Moving the bowls to August will help since they'll be part of the new season.
Moving the bowls to August will help since they'll be part of the new season.
The college football regular season was the best regular season in American sports. Every game mattered if you wanted to win a natty. Few if any do overs. Now it’s going to be watered down like the rest of them. Why stop at 24, why can’t everyone be in it?
I actually like 16 best. While it's less than other divisions, it still helps preserve the unique college football 'regular season'. Do that, get rid of conference championships, and we're near where we need to be. If you want to keep the championship games, at least make everyone play that weekend in some fashion, because as of now having to play that game is just more wear and tear.
What's crazy is that I read a college football preview magazine around 2004 that pitched a 32-team playoff and it sounded freaking wild. Now closer to reality than ever before. The old guard back then just could not imagine anything like it.
Fixed that for you.
The BCS system was probably best overall for MSU. We weren't ever going to win a title, but the bowls still mattered and we figured out how to get to them regularly. But that time is gone. The bowls no longer matter, nobody places in faith in them and they aren't really even considered part of your season. Exhibitions.
It helps State because a Top 25 finish is essentially a playoff bid in this format. One playoff bid > 10 Dukes Mayo/Reliaquest/Gator Bowls in regards to financial benefit, exposure, etc.
No one cares about the bowl games anymore. Players have been opting out for years. Notre Dame turned down the Citrus Bowl last year. We went to the Mayo Bowl because three teams opted out in front of us.
The Week 0/1 Bowl system would give us the opportunity to play a meaningful non-conference game early in the season when everyone is excited for the new season.
Most coaches are going to leave in that situation. Being the top candidate for a top 10 job -- where you have the resources to compete for a championship every year -- is much more of an opportunity than a single playoff run.
Disagree. Name one that has. Granted the current playoff has only been around 2 years.
I recall that Mullen said the benefit was the extra practice weeks. Maybe that doesn't matter anymore since half the team leaves every year.
I’m for whatever system guarantees State plays at least 13 games every year! As long as State plays in a league with Alabama, Georgia, Florida, Tennessee, LSU, Texas, A&M, and Oklahoma, getting enough wins to play a bonus (exhibition) game best be making State fans happy. Getting to 8-4 or even 9-3 on occasion and being the first round victim on the first weekend after the Egg Bowl sounds like it could be doable, and I’ll be very excited to see it. But who is next for State after Kamario leaves in 2027 for the NFL?
Remember when we had the best regular season of any sport, two weeks each December of hard fought inter-conference matchups where school and conference pride mattered, and value in finishing with just a certain number of wins or a ranking?
That was fun.
People who were against the CFP were right.
Now that we have a craptastic setup by comparison, I suppose I’ll say we should go with 32, and involve the bowls starting at round of 16, which would give us 15 of them. I’d actually prefer bowls all the way through, but I think the travel expenses for fans would be infeasible.
Congrats UNLV, Wyoming, etc…. Your reward for a once-a-generation ranking is to go on the road to Ohio State!
That was fun.
People who were against the CFP were right.
Now that we have a craptastic setup by comparison, I suppose I’ll say we should go with 32, and involve the bowls starting at round of 16, which would give us 15 of them. I’d actually prefer bowls all the way through, but I think the travel expenses for fans would be infeasible.
Congrats UNLV, Wyoming, etc…. Your reward for a once-a-generation ranking is to go on the road to Ohio State!
It was. I keep wondering how we got here. I remember in the late 2000s and even around 2010 folks like Bill King were still screaming that there's no way we'll ever get a playoff.
But there were plenty of faults in the old system too. The joke of Alabama winning a title in 2011 comes to mind. That's the one that broke the system.
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