Only 690 freshmen this year, down from 845 which was disastrous last year. Time for our state to make some tough decisions before the decisions get tougher.
How in the world can you offer 4 year degrees with under 1,000 people per class. Even for a liberal arts college, that doesn't seem particularly sustainable anymore unless they have a huge endowment to offset costs.![]()
Only 690 freshmen this year, down from 845 which was disastrous last year. Time for our state to make some tough decisions before the decisions get tougher.
It's not fixable in today's political environment. If you were going to try, I think it would have to start with slowly shutting off welfare (probably would start with a review of basically everybody receiving disability in the delta; I assume that is still the welfare of choice but if people are somehow able to stack SNAP, TANF, Section 8, Medicaid, etc. into a permanent lifestyle, then that too). Probalby have to offer some subsidized moving vans and relocation assistance also. Offering physically able people the opportunity to live off the government indefinitely is ultimately not very compassionate. Lot of sad lives have passed in the Delta and otherwise and when we eventually run out of other people's money, it's going to be disastrous for them.The Delta is such a mess. I wouldn't even know where to begin.
Sports scholarships, that's about it.It’s a perfect storm for the smaller state schools. Less kids born per family causing enrollment issues, skyrocketing costs to attend, ROI being extremely suspect for a significant number of degree programs, good paying jobs available for people with technical skills/certificates and no college degree, a growth in the sentiment that college isn’t necessary for success, and newest to the list is uncertainty that 4 years of investment will result in a good job when AI could take over work. Then you add in the fact that bigger schools can at least guarantee many opportunities for a lot of fun in college.
Other than wanting to live at home and having a very clearly defined path to a job after college, I can’t imagine thinking it’s a good idea to go to many of these very small schools.
Delta State did not put it out. The community news guy that did is also making fun of the fact that they think a carnival and magician is the way to increase enrollment.I dont understand this AI slop style image.
It shows a depressing as 17 statistic while also advertising a campus event. That seems really contrary.
Why would you show such a bad stat on an announcement for a campus event?
I don't think it's the poor people in the Delta that are causing problems at DSU. It's the lack of non-poor people, and the lack of college age kids they sire.It's not fixable in today's political environment. If you were going to try, I think it would have to start with slowly shutting off welfare (probably would start with a review of basically everybody receiving disability in the delta; I assume that is still the welfare of choice but if people are somehow able to stack SNAP, TANF, Section 8, Medicaid, etc. into a permanent lifestyle, then that too). Probalby have to offer some subsidized moving vans and relocation assistance also. Offering physically able people the opportunity to live off the government indefinitely is ultimately not very compassionate. Lot of sad lives have passed in the Delta and otherwise and when we eventually run out of other people's money, it's going to be disastrous for them.
If somebody did try to fix the delta, you'd probably see a lot of otherwise "productive" business fail when there is not a ton of welfare briefly touching the recipients before ending up in the business's pockets.
I wasn't referring to fixing Delta State, just the Delta. And I don't think fixing the delta would fix Delta State, as I don't think it's realistic to think that there is going to be a population influx at a time of below replacement birth rates.I don't think it's the poor people in the Delta that are causing problems at DSU. It's the lack of non-poor people, and the lack of college age kids they sire.
There isn't any industry coming to the Delta anytime soon.
My state has 26 institutions that are real 4 year colleges which offer bachelors/masters/doctorate degrees.How in the world can you offer 4 year degrees with under 1,000 people per class. Even for a liberal arts college, that doesn't seem particularly sustainable anymore unless they have a huge endowment to offset costs.
That would be a scam**Just make it a trade school **
Arizona in the house!My state has 26 institutions that are real 4 year colleges which offer bachelors/masters/doctorate degrees.
- Of those 26, only 3 are public. Its crazy to me that we dont have more public institutions.
- Of those 26, 18 have fewer than 2000 students.
- Of those 26, 12 have fewer than 1500 students.
I would guess than within the next 10 years, 5 of the institutions with fewer than 1500 students will close or merge.
In one city of 60,000 people(that is a standalone metro), there is a college with 1000, a college with 1350, and a college with 1700. Two of em are Catholic even...friggin merge!
Anyways, 18 institutions dont even have half the enrollment you mention as a sort of minimum, so this all seemed applicable.
There will continue to be some colleges here that not only maintain but actually thrive, despite only having around 2000 students and an endowment that isnt big.
But I have to believe 1/3 or so of the smaller colleges(under 1500) will merge or close in the coming years.
To answer your question, no, it would not have moved the needle. It would take a lot more than that for "plants to stay" or ever relocate there in the first place.If they had not apparently had access to government money that made just not working a viable option, would the Delta have more jobs now and more functional adults? Maybe not. Even if those people had felt like they had to work to eat, I'm not sure they would have made decent enough employees for the plants to stay.
Are these colleges losing money for the state? Because until that happens, there won't ever be any movement to close them. They may be now, I don't know, just asking the questionArizona in the house!
Amazing that UA, ASU and NAU are the only public colleges in a sizable state. It would be a good model for Mississippi.
In a perfect world, we would go to UM, MSU, USM and JSU being the only true four year colleges.
Valley is closed down completely. There is no need for a four year college in Itta Bena.
Alcorn State becomes part of MSU (Land Grant Merger)
MUW becomes part of UMMC Nursing Education
Delta State becomes Mississippi Higher Education Delta Center (the Virginia model), with all four universities offering programs in Cleveland.
Nursing at MSU has always struck a nerve with IHL. We are the only SEC school without an on-campus nursing degree option (Georgia just added in 2024). Its one of the most popular majors and to be honest, its one of the best ROI bachelors degrees. It hurts MSU not to have a Bachelors degree in Nursing (although their is a Masters program in Meridian)Give the W To State, We need their nursing program. Give DSU to UM. Give JSU to USM and close the rest. Of course the politics of this State will never allow any of this to happen.
I'd like to have DSU's Commercial Aviation programGive the W To State, We need their nursing program. Give DSU to UM. Give JSU to USM and close the rest. Of course the politics of this State will never allow any of this to happen.
Yes. They are losing MILLIONS.Are these colleges losing money for the state? Because until that happens, there won't ever be any movement to close them.
And as for consolidation, seems that the schools would have to introduce that for it to ever happen.
I was going to say the same thing. It fits with the ag side also, although it's obviously broader than that.I'd like to have DSU's Commercial Aviation program
That would never happen. You’d have lawsuits for decadesGive the W To State, We need their nursing program. Give DSU to UM. Give JSU to USM and close the rest. Of course the politics of this State will never allow any of this to happen.
They just got a multi million dollar ag aviation grant last year.I was going to say the same thing. It fits with the ag side also, although it's obviously broader than that.
I'd seriously like to have their Culinary Arts School......I'm about anything that promotes cooking good food AND making a living at it !Give the W To State, We need their nursing program. Give DSU to UM. Give JSU to USM and close the rest. Of course the politics of this State will never allow any of this to happen.
That would never happen. You’d have lawsuits for decades
Iowa, not Arizona, but interesting that Arizona also only has three. Did not realize that until your post. Really intereting considering that state’s population too.Arizona in the house!
Amazing that UA, ASU and NAU are the only public colleges in a sizable state. It would be a good model for Mississippi.
In a perfect world, we would go to UM, MSU, USM and JSU being the only true four year colleges.
Valley is closed down completely. There is no need for a four year college in Itta Bena.
Alcorn State becomes part of MSU (Land Grant Merger)
MUW becomes part of UMMC Nursing Education
Delta State becomes Mississippi Higher Education Delta Center (the Virginia model), with all four universities offering programs in Cleveland.
I’m not sure what you can do with Alcorn because it is a black land grant university.Ok, let JSU stand alone and give Alcorn to Southern. Valley could be turned into a junior college or closed.
I’ve been saying that for years. The IHL has too much control and holds back the schools from doing what’s best for them.The real solution is for IHL to be dissolved and each school have their own board of trustees that has the best interest of their universities in mind but Arkansas has a better chance of winning this year's natty than that happening in my grandchildren's lifetime.
Is this 'community news guy' the same person who stormed the Capitol on J6, held vigil for arrested J6 folk, and has been arrested himself?Delta State did not put it out. The community news guy that did is also making fun of the fact that they think a carnival and magician is the way to increase enrollment
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